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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12593371#post1 [div class=excerpt]http://www.democraticunderground.com/124384291 http://www.democraticunderground.com/124384554 1. It need not be unanimous. But there must be the consensus. I tend to think that if one person is strongly opposed to a lock, and is making that stand based on some principle they are able to articulate, then that position should be respected and consensus does not exist. But if some people are just-kinda-meh-not-sure opposed to a lock, then you can assume that consensus exists. But I think the bigger picture is that if everyone is doing the job in good faith and being polite to each other, then it should not be very hard to determine if consensus exists and act accordingly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12595617 [/div] ~~~~~~ Hi Jerry!!! :thumbsup:[font color=blue][b][link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1269|Visit the new DU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Progressive Media Resources Group\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"][/font size][/font color][/b]:thumbsup: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121223012937-11-obama-face-1223-horizontal-gallery.jpg :thumbsup:[font color = blue][b][link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1269|Visit the new DU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Progressive Media Resources Group\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"][/font size][/font color][/b]:thumbsup: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121223012937-11-obama-face-1223-horizontal-gallery.jpg

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This is a time of shame and sorrow. It is not a day for politics.

EDIT to add link to the full speech, RFK, April 5, 1968, given the day after the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.:
AND hat tip to Robb for his original post in the GCRA group: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12624998

Except as noted, the following words are those of Robert F. Kennedy:

"This is a time of shame and sorrow. It is not a day for politics."

"I have saved this one opportunity, my only event of today, to speak briefly to you about the mindless menace of violence in America which again stains our land and every one of our lives."

"It is not the concern of any one race.The victims of the violence are black and white, rich and poor, young and old, famous and unknown."

"They are, most important of all, human beings whom other human beings loved and needed. No one - no matter where he lives or what he does - can be certain who will suffer from some senseless act of bloodshed. And yet it goes on and on and on in this country of ours."

"Why? What has violence ever accomplished? What has it ever created? No martyr's cause has ever been stilled by an assassin's bullet."

"No wrongs have ever been righted by riots and civil disorders. A sniper is only a coward, not a hero; and an uncontrolled, uncontrollable mob is only the voice of madness, not the voice of reason."

"Whenever any American's life is taken by another American unnecessarily - whether it is done in the name of the law or in the defiance of the law, by one man or a gang, in cold blood or in passion, in an attack of violence or in response to violence - whenever we tear at the fabric of the life which another man has painfully and clumsily woven for himself and his children, the whole nation is degraded."

"Among free men," said Abraham Lincoln, "there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet; and those who take such appeal are sure to lose their cause and pay the costs."

"Some look for scapegoats, others look for conspiracies, but this much is clear: violence breeds violence, repression brings retaliation, and only a cleansing of our whole society can remove this sickness from our soul."

April 5, 1968

Wake up, America, to a new call for comprehensive measures to reduce violence in America. (NYC_SKP)

It's a tough row to hoe. Maybe it's not so tough with people in the real world.

But people on a discussion board can be pretty difficult to reason with.

To your suggestions I would add:

-- Forfeiture of guns and gun ownership rights for minor gun incidents, like a negligent discharge, with possible restoral of rights if one passes a comprehensive gun safety course.

-- Permanent forfeiture of guns and ownership rights for proven misuse of guns, ie use to intimidate, to vandalize, use in a violent act, use to shoot out tires, etc...

-- Comprehensive gun safety training required for all new and used gun purchases and transfers. Same for ammo. No card, no gun, no ammo.

-- Where a firearm is sold to a person in a household where there are minors, the owner must affirmatively demonstrate that tools and strategies are in place to safely store the firearms.

-- Children of school age should be provided with gun safety training sessions annually, as we've done in the past with drugs, tobacco, STDs, and driving.

These are just off the top of my head.

You are ADORABLE!!!

Star Member dballance (4,278 posts)
46. Your assessment of Putin seems to apply to you.

Last edited Wed Sep 11, 2013, 08:59 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Seems the same phrases can be used to describe you given your posting history.

I appreciate the traffic!!!

Did you know that we've been accused, you and I, of breaking the DU Terms of Service?


There, EarlG fixed it!



WaPo: Why You Shouldn’t Underestimate Elizabeth Warren (More Favorable Than Obama, Rubio, Biden)

Crossposted from GD, thank you ChangeUp106

WaPo: Why You Shouldn’t Underestimate Elizabeth Warren (More Favorable Than Obama, Rubio, Biden)

"But, a new Quinnipiac poll proves why Warren would be formidable in 2016 if she decided to run. Using a feeling thermometer — 0 meaning you feel totally cold about a politician, 100 meaning you feel warmly (aka) strong favorably toward a pol — Quinnipiac tested the majority of major national figures.

Warren finished third — behind only New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (53.1 degrees) and Hillary Clinton (52.1 degrees). She finished ahead of, among others, President Obama, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Vice President Joe Biden."


God Damn It! I just listened to the recording of Trayvon screaming "Help", then the gunshot.

God DAMN it, there is no fucking way that Trayvon was an aggressor.

It's heartbreaking, his mother is on the stand and has to identify her son's voice.
You can hear him screaming and then gunfire.
Then silence.

Be warned, the 911 recording begins at about 1:00 into the clip and it is heartbreaking.



It's happening again. Every few months, like a chronic rash....

Some new excuse arises for a bitter few to rekindle old wars and open old wounds between Obama supporters and three or four other DU groups.

GD is meta. Anything goes. Shit on other democrats, call out members, do it carefully and your OP won't be hidden.

To wit:

So... how did YOU become a racist?

Elizabeth Warren: Poutrage or Hate?

It's like Junior High all over again!

I am encouraged, however, by this post: Why the fuck...

Hi, BOG!


Dear billh58, ya live in Delaware, not in Hawaii. Transparency and honesty, good things.

You have visited Maui, Oahu, and what we call the big island.

Thank you for playing, and have a nice day.

I've been there too many times without really absorbing the facts.

I am aware of the county jurisdictions, that's part of my job.

And, thank you, I always enjoy my work and doubly so in the islands!

Response to billh58 (Original post)Sat May 25, 2013, 08:37 AM
billh58 (2,637 posts)
6. Robb, I apologize

for contributing to sliming this place up, and if you want, please delete this thread. I can re-post the Hawaii gun laws now that the disrupter is gone.
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Our government should do much more, but purchasers of these garments are not without blame. (links)

It's fine to blame the government but we also could all do a bit more to try to buy American goods or at least do a little bit of research to see what brands or countries of origin to avoid.

Usually, widespread popular boycotts work faster than government reform.





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