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http://www.democraticunderground.com/12593371#post1 [div class=excerpt]http://www.democraticunderground.com/124384291 http://www.democraticunderground.com/124384554 1. It need not be unanimous. But there must be the consensus. I tend to think that if one person is strongly opposed to a lock, and is making that stand based on some principle they are able to articulate, then that position should be respected and consensus does not exist. But if some people are just-kinda-meh-not-sure opposed to a lock, then you can assume that consensus exists. But I think the bigger picture is that if everyone is doing the job in good faith and being polite to each other, then it should not be very hard to determine if consensus exists and act accordingly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12595617 [/div] ~~~~~~ Hi Jerry!!! :thumbsup:[font color=blue][b][link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1269|Visit the new DU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Progressive Media Resources Group\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"][/font size][/font color][/b]:thumbsup: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121223012937-11-obama-face-1223-horizontal-gallery.jpg :thumbsup:[font color = blue][b][link:http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1269|Visit the new DU \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Progressive Media Resources Group\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"][/font size][/font color][/b]:thumbsup: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121223012937-11-obama-face-1223-horizontal-gallery.jpg

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Oh, Wait, There's even more Fail! "Men, Married, Southerners Most Likely to Be Gun Owners"

Here we go again. A flaccid attempt to smear a demographic by association with gun ownership. What bigoted tripe.

What the hell is the significance of this? There are studies that show any number of things, but is being a Gun Owner and a Married Man in the South some kind of fucking epiphany inducing revelation?

I was going to save this for another time, but as a follow up to recent post about gun ownership and political affiliation, here is another poll that is very telling:


"Across those six data sets, an average of 30% of Americans said they personally own a gun. Another 14% did not personally own a gun but live in a household with someone who does. The results presented here focus mainly on personal gun ownership, though the demographic patterns are similar among the larger group of Americans living in gun households."

-Snip -

"In addition to gender, Southern residence, and marital status, personal gun ownership also varies significantly by age, race, and political ideology.

- Non-Hispanic whites (33%) are significantly more likely than nonwhites (22%) to own guns. Hispanics (18%) in particular show below-average gun ownership. Twenty-one percent of blacks own a gun.

- Younger Americans (20%) are much less likely to own guns than older Americans. There are only minor differences among adults 30 and older by age group (ranging between 31% and 34%).

- Gun ownership is much higher among those who are politically conservative (39%) than among those who are politically liberal (17%)."

Liberals, Progressives, and especially Democrats not only own fewer guns, but upcoming generations of Americans are more prone to be Liberal, and less prone to be attracted to the macho American gun culture they were born into.

It took the NRA several generations to poison this nation with the unfettered proliferation of guns, and the inevitable gun violence brought about by easy access to guns. It will take as long as it takes for thinking Americans to reverse that insanity, and to find solutions which are compliant with the Second Amendment while imposing reasonable restrictions, and instilling enforceable responsibilities on gun ownership.

Let's see, gun crime is DOWN, but there are more guns in circulation today than EVER before.

“There are as many as 300 million guns in circulation today (the majority owned legally, but many not) and
more than 4 million new guns come onto the market each year.

And, more pro-gun rights laws were passed last year than were anti-gun rights laws.

Chart of the Day

About 1,500 state gun bills have been introduced since the Newtown massacre and 109 have become law.

New York Times: “In the 12 months since the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., almost every state has enacted at least one new gun law. Nearly two-thirds of the new laws ease restrictions and expand the rights of gun owners.

I'm glad that our gun crime rates are falling, yet there is still much to do, like uniform background checks, safety training, and taking guns away from violent people.

Fuck the Olympics... Fuck the Committee and fuck the Russian organization of this fucked up event.

The Olympics has always pissed me off for it's commercial corporate bullshit, it doesn't really celebrate the common man or woman- one largely has to come from an entitled family or be in a favorable position to participate.

And it seems to get worse every year and here we have a year where we could stand on principal and boycott, we aren't. Too much money at stake.

This year just fuck it all. Let it be a commercial failure and let them all learn a lesson. In fact, if the Olympics dies off altogether I don't think I'll miss them.

There's a better organization:

There's a hell of a lot more good will and humanity in the Special Olympics.

The next Special Olympics World Summer Games are coming to Los Angeles, California.
The 2015 Special Olympics World Summer Games will feature world-class competitions in aquatics, gymnastics, track and field, basketball, football (soccer) and many other summer sports.

Find and support a Local Special Olympics Event Near You!




Fuck, I'll kick this one... nt

3 faces: Joe: "You're Killing Me!"; Barack: "I love my job"; Boehner: "I need a drink"

I agree with you, and I'm not particularly proud of our culture or our behavior at home or abroad.

With a few exceptions, our country more than most accepts crass, loud, vulgar, and often violent behavior embarrassingly easily.

There are two DU groups that discuss guns exclusively:

The Gun Control & RKBA group here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1172

and the Gun Control Reform Activism group here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262

Both are reasonably good places to post your perspective for discussion, though I would say that there's more freedom to express individual points of view in the first group, Gun Control & RKBA.

Welcome to DU!

Reading the reviews led me to some articles of interest...

One worth bookmarking is from the Nation, The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights


I think we should have this discussion honestly. If the latter is your position, say it. If you want to eliminate the Second Amendment right, mount a forthright political campaign to do so. Do not pussy-foot around with “I am not against the Second Amendment. I do not want to take your hunting rifles and your shotguns, and your antique muskets,” when you really don’t like the Second Amendment at all, would love to see it repealed, and wouldn’t mind if everybody was forced to turn in every weapon that they owned.

‘Cause, guess what: You’re not fooling anybody. When your discourse reeks with intellectual and moral disdain for gun-rights and gun-rights advocates, when it never endorses, and indeed at best studiously avoids, the issue of gun ownership as a fundamental political right, it shows. And it certainly shows when you say outright that you’d love to confiscate all guns, no matter how you try to waffle on that later. Despite what’s implied in the ever-present disdain, gun rights advocates are not, ipso facto, stupid (or violent, or crazy), and certainly not too stupid to see where you’re heading. So let’s stop gaslighting gun-rights supporters as paranoid when they state what they see:

Dianne Feinstein, who had a concealed carry permit when she felt a ”sense of helplessness,” saying: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them…. Mr. and Mrs. American turn ‘em all in. I would have done it.”

Not to mention Andrew Cuomo’s more recent: “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.”

Of course, you could counter that nobody should believe a word of anything these politicians say, anyway. How persuasive is this performance by pry-it-from-my-cold-dead-hands Joe?

(end snip)

The entire piece is here: http://www.thepolemicist.net/2013/01/the-rifle-on-wall-left-argument-for-gun.html

"I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax"

On increasing the payroll taxes (Social Security taxes) on people over $102,000 and under $250,000?

"CLINTON: I don’t want to raise taxes on anybody.

I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax, because that would impose additional taxes on people who are educators, police officers, firefighters and the like."


Stolen from JDPriestly's insightful OP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024379279

Yes, all those teachers making over $102,000.

Out of touch, much, Senator???

Life is short, motherfuckers. Enjoy it. Leave a Mark. Be kind. Make people smile.

That's all there is too it.

Thanks to Kali, we have a little background on this man: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018553145

Thanks, Kali.

I love you, Middlefingermom.

No guns policy at new Toby Keith restaurant in Woodbridge, Virginia

No guns policy at new Toby Keith restaurant in Woodbridge

Posted: Dec 26, 2013 2:21 PM PST Updated: Dec 26, 2013 2:27 PM PST
By John Henrehan, FOX 5 Reporter


A big country star opened a huge, new restaurant last week in Woodbridge, Va. But a house rule for the new establishment is roiling some Virginians: no guns are allowed inside.

Toby Keith is not only a hugely successful country star (and actor), he also has personally opened a couple of restaurants, and through other companies, has now expanded those establishments into about a dozen cities.

The latest Toby Keith restaurant opened in Woodbridge. Prominently displayed on the front door is a sign saying: “NO GUNS PERMITTED.”

Virginia happens to be a gun-friendly state, where it’s quite permissible for citizens to strap on a weapon and go into a bar or restaurant, as long as the weapon is clearly visible. State law is silent on the issue of drinking while openly carrying a gun. (State law does prohibit most citizens who are legally carrying a concealed weapon from consuming alcohol, but they, too, are allowed to go into a bar or restaurant.)



Virginia Gun Owners Not Pleased With ‘No Guns Permitted’ Sign Outside Toby Keith’s New Restaurant

By Sy Mukherjee on December 29, 2013 at 5:25 pm

Country music star Toby Keith is facing some backlash from gun owners after one of his new I Love This Bar And Grill restaurants in Woodbridge, Virginia posted a “No Guns Permitted” sign outside its premises.

“I’ll never eat here. Lawfully armed and spending my money elsewhere,” read one of many disgruntled reviews on the restaurant’s Facebook page.

The furor spurred a response by the restaurant, explaining, “While we understand and respect every person’s right to own and bear arms, we at Toby Keith’s I Love This Bar and Grill, with guidance from the State of Virginia and based on insurance regulations, have adopted a no weapons policy. It is our desire to provided a safe, enjoyable and entertaining experience for our patrons and staff.”

That did little to quell the ire of gun owners, one whom responded to the restaurant’s Facebook message by saying, “Your post regarding your stance on not allowing patrons to defend them selves should the need arise is a total cop out to the bad publicity that your bad policy has initiated.”

But gun owners may actually be legally allowed to carry loaded weapons in Keith’s restaurant under Virginia law, irrespective of what the sign says. Virginia is one of at least six states — the others being Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Arizona — that explicitly allows loaded guns in bars. “No Guns Permitted” signs don’t actually have the force of law in Virginia unless the state specifically lists the facility as one where people cannot carry guns.


Should be interesting...

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