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First they pre-emptively contradicted our government's use of them to bolster our flimsy claims but Kerry went ahead anyway. Now they're rejecting it publicly.
Response to Government References to MSF Syria Statement
Over the last two days, the American, British, and other governments have referred to reports from several groups, including Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), while stating that the use of chemical weapons in Syria was “undeniable” and designating the perpetrators.
MSF today warned that its medical information could not be used as evidence to certify the precise origin of the exposure to a neurotoxic agent or to attribute responsibility.
On August 24, MSF announced that three hospitals it supplies in Syria’s Damascus governorate had reportedly received 3,600 patients displaying neurotoxic symptoms, of which 355 died. Although our information indicates mass exposure to a neurotoxic agent, MSF clearly stated that scientific confirmation of the toxic agent was required, and therefore called for an independent investigation to shed light on what would constitute, if confirmed, a massive and unacceptable violation of international humanitarian law.
MSF also stated that in its role as an independent medical humanitarian organization, it was not in a position to determine responsibility for the event. Now that an investigation is underway by United Nations inspectors, MSF rejects that our statement be used as a substitute for the investigation or as a justification for military action. MSF's sole purpose is to save lives, alleviate the suffering of populations torn by Syrian conflict, and bear witness when confronted with a critical event, in strict compliance with the principles of neutrality and impartiality.
The latest massive influx of patients displaying neurotoxic symptoms in Damascus governorate comes on top of an already catastrophic humanitarian situation facing the Syrian people, one characterized by extreme violence, displacement, the destruction of medical facilities, and severely limited or blocked humanitarian action.
"What is before us today is real, and it is compelling. So I also want to underscore that while investigators are gathering additional evidence on the ground, our understanding of what has already happened in Syria is grounded in facts informed by conscience and guided by common sense. The reported number of victims, the reported symptoms of those who were killed or injured, the firsthand accounts from humanitarian organizations on the ground like Doctors Without Borders and the Syria Human Rights Commission – these all strongly indicate that everything these images are already screaming at us is real, that chemical weapons were used in Syria."
John Kerry, August 26, 2013
Posted by Catherina | Sat Aug 31, 2013, 09:16 PM (53 replies)
Al Jazeera and Al Jazeera America are the mouthpieces of a dictator in Qatar. Both channels are fully funded by that little dictator and other members of the royal family who have been funding terrorists and agitating to overthrow Assad so the Emir can have a pipeline. It used to be privately owned but to bypass media laws, the Emir put it under a private corporation lol. It's still the same people, the same funding and devoted to the Saudi-Arabia (an original co-founder) and Qatari goals of dominating the Middle East.
Here's the chairman of their new front operation "Al Jazeera Media Network":
Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer bin Mohammed bin Thani Al-Thani is the Chairman of the Al Jazeera Media Network, which is based in Qatar. He also served as Chairman of the Board of Directors and President of the Board of Administration.
Before starting Al Jazeera, he joined the state's Minister of Information in 1987 and then served as undersecretary to the Minister of Information until 1994.
He is the cousin of the Emir of Qatar Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani. He is the 7th richest member of a royal family in the world.
Sure, they'll have some in-depth articles about NYPD corruption or homelessness in America but don't expect anything credible on the Middle East except how wonderful Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and their rebels are.
Qatar wants to overthrow Assad to built a pipeline.
Remember Prince Bandar 'Bush'?
Yes, critics are right to point to the network’s paymaster — a government whose political agenda has, at times, directly influenced its coverage. The channel, for example, has been one of the most avid watchers of the Syrian conflict (Qatar is known to be arming and funding factions of the Syrian rebellion) but was relatively quiet about Arab Spring unrest in the nearby Kingdom of Bahrain, a close Gulf state ally of Doha. But mainstream American networks are also susceptible to external political pressures. And while al-Jazeera presents the news sometimes with a discernible bias, it lacks the partisan shrillness of channels glued to the Beltway like MSNBC and Fox News.
They're right up there with BBC World Media which receives 34% of its funding from the UK government, 8% from the fucking US State Department...
We already know we need to beware our our MSM but beware with those news sources. Be very wary. There's a reason they're giving so much airtime to the fighters they've been backing all over the Middle East.
What do those knowledgeable about news and propaganda think about the new Al Jazeera? Adel Iskandar, Georgetown University lecturer and co-author of the book “Al-jazeera: The Story of the Network that is Rattling Governments and Redefining Modern Journalism” said, “The Al Jazeera of 2010 is not the Al Jazeera of 2013… We’ve seen the departure of various people at the network who claim that it no longer practices independent journalism.” Former BBC reporter Ali Hashem resigned his post at Al Jazeera Arabic saying, “The Qataris… are forcing Al Jazeera to commit suicide.” Tellingly, Iraq invasion co-architect and former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld told David Frost on Al Jazeera English in September of 2011 that he was “delighted” by the new Al Jazeera.
Rumsfeld says he's "delighted" by Al Jazeera English
Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld granted an interview to Al-Jazeera English on Thursday, which will air Friday, and complimented the network for its service.
"It can be an important means of communication in the world and I am delighted you are doing what you are doing," Rumsfeld told Sir David Frost on "Frost over the World."
This statement stands in stark contrast to the tone Rumsfeld struck back in 2004 when he accused the network of lying and deemed its actions "vicious."
At the time, Rumsfeld was referring to the original Al Jazeera, which became well known in the United States for airing messages from Osama Bin Laden
Don Rumsfeld DELIGHTED. Beat those war drums for those pipelines!
Posted by Catherina | Sat Aug 31, 2013, 04:52 PM (145 replies)
Whistleblower Award 2013 - Ceremony awarding Edward J. Snowden
Published on Aug 31, 2013
Whistleblower Award 2013 - Ceremony awarding Edward J. Snowden
Jacob Appelbaum, Internet activist and journalist answers for Edward Snowden
Edward Snowden receives the Whistleblower Award. For the first time Transparency International Deutschland e.V. contributes to the award, which is given every two years by the Vereinigung Deutscher Wissenschaftler (VDW e.V.) and der German Section of the International Association Of Lawyers Against Nuclear Arms (IALANA e.V.). With the award persons are honored, who reveal malpractices and dangerous developments for humans and society, democracy, peace, and the environment. Due to the courageous actions of Edward J. Snowden the world has gained insights into the surveillance and espionage practices of intelligence agencies. Every single one of us can be affected by them at any time and without there being any grounds for suspicion. The pressing problems associated with whistleblowing are analyzed in a festive dedication to the honorable Edward Snowden. The focus of the lecture by Prof. Dr. Foschepoth is the latitude of the secret services in Germany. Through this ceremony, the awarding organizations wished to strengthen their demand to the German government to offer US citizen Snowden, in gratitude and all sincerity, accommodation and protection in Germany.
Posted by Catherina | Sat Aug 31, 2013, 03:04 PM (19 replies)
RadicalMedia_ @UnToldCarlisle 11m
RT @Arlington_hick: I'm broadcasting '#syria demo at Whitehouse' live on @Ustream. Come watch and chat! - http://ustre.am/KsCm #RM
One person was just arrested after a scuffle. I just turned it on and can't tell if it was the pro-war provocateur or an antiwar demonstrator.
Correction. They arrested the antiwar protester for spitting on the provocateur.
Posted by Catherina | Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:15 PM (12 replies)
E McMorris-Santoro @EvanMcSan 1m
John Kerry wants Americans to read the US intel report on Syria for themselves. Here it is in its entirety: http://www.buzzfeed.com/lisatozzi/here-is-the-us-assessment-of-the-syrian-governments-use-of-c …
Here Is The U.S. Assessment Of The Syrian Government’s Use Of Chemical Weapons
“The United States Government assesses with high confidence that the Syrian government carried out a chemical weapons attack in the Damascus suburbs on August 21, 2013.” posted on August 30, 2013 at 1:10pm EDT
Lisa Tozzi BuzzFeed Staff
A preliminary U.S. government assessment released Thursday states that 1,429 people were killed in the chemical weapons attack earlier this month, including at least 426 children and puts the blame on the Syrian government for the attacks.
(REPORT EMBEDDED here)
Posted by Catherina | Fri Aug 30, 2013, 01:20 PM (40 replies)
I hate to bother you but could you please weigh in on acceptable news sources for LBN?
Since the war talk has heated up, there seems to be a small war against RT primarily and Al Jazeera English.
I was trying to comment on an important story in LBN, related to the conflict we may soon find ourselves in, when I got a message saying the thread was locked.
This is the thread I'm talking about: Syria asks UN to immediately investigate three new ‘chemical attacks’ by rebels.
This is the message the locking host left: "Source violates this section of the SOP: Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs. "
RT hires some of the best journalists and is so mainstream that Larry King just signed a contract with them for his new political show.
Could you please clarify this for us? It's beginning to feel like moderators again instead of hosts.
RT America is available to 85 million people in the United States. In 2011 it was the second most-watched foreign news channel in the U.S. after BBC World News. In 2012 it was the number one foreign station in five U.S. urban areas. In 2013 RT has become the first TV news channel in history to reach 1 billion views on YouTube. According to the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board between 2.25-2.5 million Britons tuned their televisions to RT during the second half of 2012. It is the most popular news channel in Britain after the BBC and Sky.
Thanks very much for your time.
Posted by Catherina | Thu Aug 29, 2013, 01:21 AM (2 replies)
Obama makes case for punishing Syria over gas attack
WASHINGTON | Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:53pm EDT
(Reuters) - President Barack Obama vowed on Wednesday that the Syrian government would face "international consequences" for last week's deadly chemical attack, but made clear any military response would be limited to avoid dragging the United States into another war in the Middle East.
Casting the need for action based on U.S. national security interests instead of humanitarian grounds, Obama made his case to a war-weary American public for what is looking like an all-but-certain use of force in Syria, where he has long been reluctant to intervene.
While saying he and allied leaders had not yet made a decision on military strikes against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's loyalists, he left little doubt that the choice was not whether to act but when.
"We have concluded that the Syrian government in fact carried these out, and if that's so, then there need to be international consequences," Obama told "PBS Newshour" in a televised interview.
There were growing signs, however, that the timeline for launching any military strike on Syria could be complicated not only by the U.N. weapons inspectors' continued presence there but by the Obama administration's efforts to coordinate with international partners and growing demands for consultation with U.S. lawmakers.
On top of that, Britain - a key player in any air assault on Syria - changed its stance on Wednesday, saying the U.N. Security Council should see findings from weapons inspectors before any military action is taken and that the British parliament should vote on the matter twice.
As Matt Diaz put it "We have concluded Syria in fact..., and if that's so,..." Is this all but certain? No doubt? Certain doubt?"... "chemical weapons that could threaten us"... Who doe they think they're talking to? Bush/Palin voters?
Here's 5 minutes of the PBS segment
Posted by Catherina | Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:48 PM (5 replies)
A week before the start of the Arab Spring, the Lebanese Al-Akhbar website was hacked by a group supporting the Saudi regime as retaliation for the stories they ran about the cables. As the revolutionary spirit spread, so did a cyber war of propaganda, DDoS attacks, hacking, threats and arrests of activists across the Middle East. The target of that war was the information in the cables and the carriers of that information, people and infrastructure. But despite the efforts to shut the information down, dictatorships started to fall, one after the other.
But it had to start somewhere, and the release of the cables started with Private Chelsea Manning, alone in the Iraqi desert. She, like Assange and Snowden and many less famous and mostly anonymous activists, are the deities of a new mythology that no prison can ever detain. The battle for a transparent and accountable world is spreading, despite all the measures of repression and surveillance. It’s being carried by a worldwide movement exposing secrecy, corruption and human rights abuses, for which Chelsea Manning will be an inspirational and iconic figure, as free as her ideas and dreams while her body is behind walls and bars. After she was sentenced to 35 years in prison Chelsea Manning said in her statement that “Sometimes you have to pay a heavy price to live in a free society.” I don’t know if she knows that she helped us, in this part of the world, to move toward that noble goal. Closing a cell door on a prisoner with a free mind has opened a thousand and one doors for a free society.
Everywhere US officials travel, we need to publicly hound them with demands to "Free Chelsea Manning". Enough people are sick of the hypocrisy and vindictiveness towards people like Chelsea and Snowden who were naive enough to take that "free society" "democracy" shit seriously while politicians the world over twist those words for their sick exploitation of people.
Edit: Thank you for posting this! A HUGE REC! And a huge hurrah for Chelsea!
Posted by Catherina | Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:59 PM (0 replies)
Last week a small Russian paper named Kommersant (Businessman) spread the fabrication that Snowden celebrated his birthday at the Russian Consulate last week. That part of story turned out to be totally false. So does the rest of it.
Fidel Castro angry at accusations that Cuba snubbed Edward Snowden
Former president responds to reports in Russia's Kommersant newspaper that Cuba bowed to US pressure over NSA leaks
theguardian.com, Wednesday 28 August 2013 13.42 BST
Retired Cuban president Fidel Castro has criticised a report in a Russian newspaper that his country buckled to US pressure and blocked former NSA contractor Edward Snowden from travelling through Cuba to exile in Latin America.
Castro, who ceded power to his brother Raul in 2006, and is rarely seen or heard from in public, said the article in the Kommersant newspaper on Monday was a "lie" and "libel".
Castro, in a column on various international issues, from Syria and Egypt to robots doing police work and Snowden, and carried by official media, hailed Snowden and lashed out at US spying as repugnant.
"It is obvious that the United States will always try to pressure Cuba ... but not for nothing has (Cuba) resisted and defended itself without a truce for 54 years and will continue to do so for as long as necessary," Castro wrote.
Castro, in his column, criticised Kommersant as a well known "counter-revolutionary" and "mercenary" newspaper.
"I admire the courageous and just declarations of Snowden," Castro wrote.
"In my opinion, he has rendered a service to the world having revealed the repugnantly dishonest policy of the powerful empire that is lying and deceiving the world," Castro continued.
Posted by Catherina | Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:33 PM (13 replies)
Israeli intelligence 'intercepted Syrian regime talk about chemical attack'
Information passed to US by Israeli Defence Forces's 8200 unit, former official tells magazine
Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
theguardian.com, Wednesday 28 August 2013 09.25 BST
Israeli military intelligence provided key evidence of the Syrian regime's deployment of chemical weapons to US officials last week, according to the German magazine Focus.
The 8200 unit of the Israeli Defence Forces, which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.
The 8200 unit collects and analyses electronic data, including wiretapped telephone calls and emails. It is the largest unit in the IDF.
Senior Israeli security officials arrived in Washington on Monday to share the latest results of intelligence gathering, and to review the Syrian crisis with national security adviser Susan Rice.
Everyone has gone mad. Again.
Posted by Catherina | Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:51 AM (13 replies)