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\"Indeed, in my four-plus decades in journalism, I have never seen a more thoroughly biased and misleading performance by the major U.S. news media. Even during the days of Ronald Reagan – when much of the government’s modern propaganda structure was created – there was more independence in major news outlets. There were media stampedes off the reality cliff during George H.W. Bush’s Persian Gulf War and George W. Bush’s Iraq War, both of which were marked by demonstrably false claims that were readily swallowed by the big U.S. news outlets. But there is something utterly Orwellian in the current coverage of the Ukraine crisis, including accusing others of “propaganda” when their accounts – though surely not perfect – are much more honest and more accurate than what the U.S. press corps has been producing. There’s also the added risk that this latest failure by the U.S. press corps is occurring on the border of Russia, a nuclear-armed state that – along with the United States – could exterminate all life on the planet. The biased U.S. news coverage is now feeding into political demands to send U.S. military aid to Ukraine’s coup regime. The casualness of this propaganda – as it spreads across the U.S. media spectrum from Fox News to MSNBC, from the Washington Post to the New York Times – is not just wretched journalism but it is reckless malfeasance jeopardizing the lives of many Ukrainians and the future of the planet.\" Robert Parry, Ukraine, Through the US Looking Glass, April 16, 2014 http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/16-6

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Thanks for your link about that new Ukranian National Guard

All I had before was this:
Andrey Parubiy, head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, announced the first battalion of a National Guard “comprised of volunteers from Maidan self-defense troops", has left Kiev for the south-east.

According to Parubiy, the “battalion is comprised of volunteers from the Maidan self-defense troops".
http://rt.com/news/kiev-military-operation-east-584/


so I appreciate your link very much

Ukraine has sent troops to the east of the country. The application is referred to as “anti-terror” operation against Russian separatists. According to the National Security Council are “very combative” soldiers “on the way to the front.”

A first battalion of the National Guard has been deployed in the eastern Ukraine. The reports of the chief of the National Security and Defence Council, Andrej Parubij, on his Facebook page. The soldiers were “very aggressive” and ready to defend the Ukraine “at the front”. The move comes one day after the ultimatum of the Ukrainian government has passed to the separatists.

Parubij is a member of the Fatherland party of Yulia Tymoshenko and co-founded the right-wing Social – National Party , from which emerged today Swoboda party. During the protests in Kiev Parubij was known as the commander of the Maidan , which work closely with the leaders of the paramilitary rights sector , Dmytro Jarosch , worked.

The operation of the National Guard going out ” in a very responsible way ,” assured transitional President Alexander Turchinov . Ukraine’s parliament had approved the creation of up to 60,000 -strong force in March. The soldiers are mostly volunteers from the so-called self-defense groups from Kiev Independence Square. They had the end of February contributed to overthrow the government of President Viktor Yanukovych.

The National Guard is now to secure the borders , lead the fight against terror and establish internal security, as it is called. The force under the Ministry of Interior and so could the regular 130,000 -strong army of the Ukraine stand by.

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/the-national-guard-ukrainian-troops-are-advancing-in-the-east-breaking-news-49521


I wonder if they're issued "88" lapel pins or patches.

Banks? Did someone say banks?

Ah yes banks.

It's beyond ludicrous to recognize the overthrow of a democratically elected government by violent rightwing musclepower and then complain when Ukrainian citizens resist their future being signed away by a junta in Kiev that no one voted for.

Check this site out. It was set up in 2007 and is beyond amusing. The "Arseniy Yatsenyk Foundation Open Ukraine". Its partners are hilarious too (NATO, National Endowment for Democracy, US State Dept, Chatham House, Oligarch Victor Pinchuk of the Davos Philanthropic Roundtable, International Renaissance Foundation, The Black Sea Trust(German Marshall Fund of the United States), and hedgefund vultures Horizon Capital, SwedBank, who are already plundering Ukraine with the privatization deals that never make the US press.

I especially love the NED's Reagan-Fascell Democracy Fellowship they had going right before the "spontaneous" EuroMaidan uprising.

Partner of Open Ukraine Foundation National Endowment for Democracy (NED) accepts grant applications for Raegan-Fascell Democracy Fellows Program until November 8th.

http://en.prostirzmin.com.ua/forum/287


Several of their fellows are press people since the program targets "democratic activists, scholars, and journalists".

Reagan-Fascell Democracy Fellows

The Reagan-Fascell Democracy Fellowship Program is an international exchange program named in honor of NED’s principal founders, former president Ronald Reagan and the late congressman Dante Fascell. Funded by the U.S. Congress, the fellowship program supports democratic activists, scholars, and journalists from around the world to undertake independent research on democratic challenges worldwide.

http://www.ned.org/fellowships/reagan-fascell-democracy-fellows-program


Like this little fellow Sergii Leshchenko.

The same elites who fucked us over (and aren't done with us yet, Detroit was just a test run), who are fucking over the European people, are the same ones doing this to Ukraine.

"something stranger than living in the bubble even" as bemildred put it earlier.

General Breedlove, NATO EU chief "no evidence of a strategic Russian buildup on Ukraine's borders"

Where is Gen. Montgomery Meigs getting his information? I really wish the US news would dump broadcasting analysis based on State Dept talking points and switch to reporting news.

This was buried in a Guardian article today, that I just happened to be reading when I saw your post.

The Nato commander in Europe, General Philip Breedlove, said several Nato member states had offered ground troops for deployment in eastern European member states and that he would be soon making recommendations on how they should be positioned. Breedlove said that the situation represented more than a crisis, adding: "For Nato, it's bigger than that. It's a paradigm shift."

However, the general added that he saw no evidence of a strategic Russian buildup on Ukraine's borders. He stressed the military movements were intended entirely to reassure Nato members along Russia's borders who had been unnerved by Russian actions in Ukraine.

The air force general said he had attempted to call the Russian chief of general staff, Valery Gerasimov, to explain that the deployments were entirely defensive but had not been able to reach him.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/nato-step-up-presence-russian-borders-eastern-europe

And away we go! "US to send non-lethal aid to Ukraine"

The United States government is preparing to send non-lethal aid to Ukraine, the Associated Press reported on Wednesday, just one day after the interim government there launched an operation against armed pro-Russian protesters.

White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters during a scheduled briefing in Washington, DC midday Wednesday that the Obama administration is “obviously evaluating requests and looking at ways that we can support the Ukrainian government.” Soon after that same afternoon, the AP reported that the US is indeed in the midst of preparing to provide assistance, according to anonymous sources who confirmed the existence of plans to the newswire but were not yet authorized to discuss the matter publically.

...

“The incremental assistance would be aimed both at bolstering the Ukrainian military as it seeks to halt the advances of pro-Russian forces in the east, as well as showing symbolic US support for Ukraine's efforts,"
Julie Pace and Robert Burns reported for the AP. “But the aid is unlikely to satisfy the Obama administration's critics, who say what the Ukrainians really need are weapons to defend themselves.”

...

Carney, Pace and Burns reported, “sidestepped questions about whether the US would supply military-style equipment like body armor that is not technically defined as lethal aid” during Wednesday’s meeting. The anonymous officials who spoke to the news agency did claim, however, that such assistance isn’t expected to be included in the new car package being prepared.

...

....http://rt.com/usa/non-lethal-aid-ukraine-988/



US working on non-lethal aid package for Ukraine
By JULIE PACE and ROBERT BURNS
— Apr. 16, 2014 12:59 PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States is working on a package of non-lethal aid for Ukraine that could include medical supplies and clothing, but would stop short of providing body armor and other military-style equipment, U.S. officials said Wednesday.

The incremental assistance would be aimed both at bolstering the Ukrainian military as it seeks to halt the advances of pro-Russian forces in the east, as well as showing symbolic U.S. support for Ukraine's efforts. But the aid is unlikely to satisfy the Obama administration's critics, who say what the Ukrainians really need are weapons to defend themselves.

"We ought to at least, for God's sake, give them some light weapons with which to defend themselves," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said over the weekend.

The administration has said it is considering aid requests from Ukraine, but is not actively considering sending weapons, ammunition or other lethal assistance.

...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-working-non-lethal-aid-package-ukraine


Video interview with Ukranian soldier. "We won't shoot... just want to go home"

Here is a group of Ukrainian soldiers telling western journalists that they don't want to shoot at anybody and gave themselves up. They say the citizens blocked them then helped them, gave them food and water, and they just want to go home, just go. They don't want to shoot.

http://www.bild.de/video/clip/ukraine/ukrainischer-soldat-will-nicht-schiessen-35596750.bild.html

The interview is in English

I like the way you reason. That's precisely what's going on

11:30 GMT:

Three more Ukrainian armored vehicles switched sides in the Donetsk Region, according to RIA Novosti. The vehicles came to the center of Slavyansk, took down their Ukrainian flags and handed their weapons to self-defense squads.

“We decided not to be at war with the people and not to defend authorities like this,” members of the crews explained.

...

12:36 GMT:

Around 60 soldiers manning Ukrainian armored vehicles sent to Kramatorsk to carry out military operations against anti-government protesters have switched sides and joined the local self-defense forces, RIA Novosti reports, citing the self-defense forces.

“We’ve seen here that these are neither separatists nor terrorists, but ordinary local residents, with whom we are not going to go into battle,” one of the defecting soldiers said.

All of the troops who decided to side with the self-defense forces come from Dnepropetrovsk, the next-door region to Donetsk.

http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/


I bookmarked numerous reports of more units switching sides and saying the same thing. Chaos coming if Kiev and its backers keep this up.

Oh gosh, see post 40

that I was typing to bemildred when you typed this. Post 40.

The really think Ukrainians, and working people around the world, have the short attention spans of the general US public and are gonna fall for this. Ukranians have been protesting the NATO for years, just like the protesters being violently suppressed in Bahrain right now that our media never talks about. What's happening now is their own worst fears come true but somehow it's all Russia's fault lol.


Although Sea Breeze exercises are very important for the Black Sea regional security and
for Ukraine itself, public perception of these exercises in Ukraine is generally very negative
and quite polarized. In fact, several times since 1997 massive public protests against Sea
Breeze led to the disruption of several exercises and created a generally unfavorable envi-
ronment for multilateral collaboration
(Sanders, 2007). The major reason is that the public
tends to view Ukraine’s participation in Sea Breeze as part of a larger pro-NATO agenda, and
Ukraine’s stronger affiliation with NATO is perceived very negatively by the majority of the
Ukrainian population, as well as by the current parliamentary majority (Dmitriy Tabachnik,
Petr Simonenko, Sergey Grinevetskiy, & Kryuchkov, 2009; Molchanov, 2000; Simon, 2009).
For example, a public opinion poll conducted by the Ukrainian national think tank “Demo-
cratic Initiatives” in 2012 indicated that 74.3 per cent of people from the East, 73.9 percent
from the South, 52.3 percent from the Center and 39.2 percent from the West answered nega-
tively to the question of whether Ukraine should join NATO (Democratic Initiatives Founda-
tion, December 2012). These data also show evidence of the East-West divide in the public
perceptions regarding NATO. At the same time, a significant proportion of the Ukrainian
population across all regions is undecided in their views regarding NATO (see Table 1).
Hence, changing the opinion of these people would help to mitigate the general hostility
of the Ukrainian population towards NATO and its security initiatives.

...

The Donetsk newspaper makes a clear association between Sea Breeze and NATO, and
since the anti-NATO sentiment is very prevalent in the region, negative public opinion about
Sea Breeze feeds itself. In several articles there is a call to proclaim Donetsk a NATO-free
territory. Following this logic, Sea Breeze is called a foreign invasion of the Ukrainian land,
immediate harm to Ukraine’s territorial integrity and a factor that is detrimental to Ukraine’s
sovereignty. The Donetsk public is fearful not only that the national government is deciding
everything despite local opposition but also that a powerful foreign actor (the U.S.) might
subvert the national government in Ukraine by controlling its decisions. To a lesser extent,
the paper also discusses the geopolitical alignment of Ukraine and the idea that being closer
with Russia is more beneficial than building partnerships with NATO. Aside from NATO-
related objections against Sea Breeze, the Donetsk paper talks about the harms of Sea Breeze
for local tourism in Crimea. On the other hand, Sea Breeze cancellations are viewed as lost
opportunities for Ukraine and its military capacity. Hence, the Donetsk public is not against
the Sea Breeze exercises per se, but rather against too much foreign influence in Ukraine, and
against the intentions of the Ukrainian government to make unilateral decisions regardless of
people’s preferences at the local level.

Articles in the Kharkiv newspaper are openly negative about Sea Breeze. There is a
strong war rhetoric and fear that Sea Breeze is a form of direct military invasion of Ukraine
(not the invasion of Ukraine’s sovereignty like in the Donetsk paper). There is also a suspi-
cion that Sea Breeze is just another form of foreign military intelligence in Ukraine and a
program with some hidden motives:

...

The Crimean newspaper portrays Sea Breeze in a very negative light. It views these ex-
ercises as a foreign invasion and an attack against Ukraine that violates the Ukrainian Con-
stitution and the principle of the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Similar to the Donetsk paper,
there is a strong sense of regionalism in Crimea and a harsh critique of the national govern-
ment’s unwillingness to consider the preferences of the Crimean people. Crimean articles
condemn the national government’s disrespect towards the democratic freedoms of speech
and free expression that are exercised by the anti-Sea Breeze protesters. The national govern-
ment is described as uncivilized, ignorant, and stubborn.

...

http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/Collaboration/international/Ukraine/Sea-Breeze-exercise.pdf


And that was before all this

Agreed.

It's beyond ludicrous to recognize the overthrow of a democratically elected government by violent rightwing musclepower and then complain when Ukrainian citizens resist their future being signed away by a junta in Kiev that no one voted for.

Check this site out. It was set up in 2007 and is beyond amusing. The "Arseniy Yatsenyk Foundation Open Ukraine". Its partners are hilarious too (NATO, National Endowment for Democracy, US State Dept, Chatham House, Oligarch Victor Pinchuk of the Davos Philanthropic Roundtable, International Renaissance Foundation, The Black Sea Trust(German Marshall Fund of the United States), and hedgefund vultures Horizon Capital, SwedBank, who are already plundering Ukraine with the privatization deals that never make the US press.

I especially love the NED's Reagan-Fascell Democracy Fellowship they had going right before the "spontaneous" EuroMaidan uprising.

Partner of Open Ukraine Foundation National Endowment for Democracy (NED) accepts grant applications for Raegan-Fascell Democracy Fellows Program until November 8th.

http://en.prostirzmin.com.ua/forum/287


Several of their fellows are press people since the program targets "democratic activists, scholars, and journalists".

Reagan-Fascell Democracy Fellows

The Reagan-Fascell Democracy Fellowship Program is an international exchange program named in honor of NED’s principal founders, former president Ronald Reagan and the late congressman Dante Fascell. Funded by the U.S. Congress, the fellowship program supports democratic activists, scholars, and journalists from around the world to undertake independent research on democratic challenges worldwide.

http://www.ned.org/fellowships/reagan-fascell-democracy-fellows-program


Like this little fellow Sergii Leshchenko.

+1000 "something stranger than living in the bubble even" Indeed.

This has been going on for days. Ukranian military units defecting and switching sides

Youtube and news sites which emphasize reporting over propaganda have been crawling with videos of Ukranian troops refusing to fire on their compatriots and switching sides.

This one is from a few days ago when local people of South-East caught and disarmed the tank near the city of Donetsk. The tank crew doesn't even seem to have and idea how to properly operate the vehicle. In this video, according to the freaks of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, what you see are terrorists.

According to the audiovisuals, what you see is simple civilians willing to stand up in front of a tank with their car and their bodies to stop it.



Quick translation: "Who do you plan to shoot at? Stop the engine! Stop the engine! What are you pulling your assault rifle out for? Do you think that if we jump on your tank it will protect you? No, tell us, who are you going to shoot at? Switch off the engine, hush it down, we are telling you. Where will you go - everywhere people. Chaps, let's pull them out of this tank, they don't know what they are doing. Hush down the engine, stop it, who are you going to shoot at - at own lads?
Chaps, don't touch them, let's solve it normally, like normal people.
Hush down the engine, stop it."


Judging by the copious amount of cursing the civilians are very angry because they suspect this tank is headed for the city of Slaviansk. The poor tank crew seemed clearly frightened and ashamed and the tank commander did the only right thing: he climbed out of the tank, begged to crowd not to touch it (he is personally responsible for it) and tried to convince the crowd that they didn't plan on shooting anyone. The tank commander looks like a nice young guy placed in an impossible situation and the civilians understood that. The residents were angry because initially the tank crew tried to avoid them. The good news is that level heads were saying "stop screaming! stop screaming!" and cooled down the angry crowd. And no, despite all the weasel worded screeching implications from our State Department, there weren't any Spetsnaz GRU in disguise or any sign of Russians at all.

If these civilians had been military, even without anti-tank weapons, they could have easily set this tank on fire. In other words, complete total chaos for the putchists in Kiev who weren't counting on Ukranian military not wanting to kill their fellow compatriots.


And all those who claim to "know" Russians are causing the chaos can't provide a shred of credible evidence to back up their claims except for "clothes and guns look Russian" and "they look organized". Of course they have uniforms and look "organized". Half of the Ukrainian army has defected in the East, the Berkut force was disbanded by the interim govt and most of police are siding with protestors -- there's plenty of organized and armed people to go around. And the unarmed locals, men, women and teenagers are out in full force too as evidenced by all the videos.

It was local civilian activists who peacefully disarmed the 25th Brigade of Ukrainian paratroopers sent over there and then provided food and civilian clothes for them.

The idea of shooting at one's own people at the whim of questionable 'government' in Kiev seems utterly unimpressive to Ukrainian soldiers and reservists.

On this video from Donetsk, you can see some Ukrainian military vehicles raising Russian flags, while others raise the flags of the Donetsk



Here's another video. Kramatorsk residents at the local Malotaranovka railway crossing blocking a convoy of 15 military vehicles.



...

One YouTube video of what happened next shows a woman coming to a soldier with the reproach: “You are the army, you must protect the people.”

“We are not going to shoot, we weren’t even going to,” is the soldier’s reply.

Similar conversations could be heard at each of several APCs which entered the city, with locals promising to defend their neighbors, in case the soldiers start a military operation.

...

“We’ve seen here, that these are neither separatists nor terrorists, but ordinary local residents, with whom we are not going to go to battle,” one of the defected soldiers said.

....



Anti-government activists block a collumn of Ukrainian men riding on Armoured Personnel Carriers in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk on April 16, 2014. (AFP Photo/Anatoly Stepanov)


The soldiers and civilians started fraternizing very quickly and soon were joking about “coming for a visit without weapons next time.” Many of the soldiers put on St. George’s ribbons, the traditional Russian emblem used to commemorate the Soviet Union’s fight against Nazism in World War II.

http://rt.com/news/ukrainian-tanks-kramatorsk-civilians-840/


Ukrainians don't want fight with Ukrainians and they don't want to fight with Russians all for the grand Austerity prizes like 50% pension cuts, higher retirement ages, loss of social services etc in IMF's Cracker Jack box. Surprise surprise.



In other important news, though you wouldn't know it from the corporate press,

Head of EU intelligence, Commodore Georgij Alafuzoff, rules out Russian military presence in Ukraine

"In my opinion, it’s mostly people who live in the region, people from the region who are not satisfied with the current state of affairs... concerned citizens"


as reported in the EU press.

Finnischer militärischer Geheimdienst: keine russischen Sicherheitskräfte auf ukrainischem Territorium
Von petrapez | Veröffentlicht: 15. April 2014

In einem Interview mit dem finnischen Rundfunk YLE sagte Alafuzoff, dass es in der Region nicht zu aktiven Feindseligkeiten und zu keiner gross angelegten Präsenz von russischer Seite gab. “Meiner Meinung nach, sind es vor allem die Menschen, die in der Region leben und nicht mit dem aktuellen Stand der Dinge zufrieden sind”, so Admiral Alafuzoff.

https://www.radio-utopie.de/tag/george-alafuzoff/


Interview is here in Finnish: http://yle.fi/uutiset/eun_tiedustelujohtaja_venaja_ei_ole_asemoitunut_sotilaallisesti_ukrainaan/7190544

+1 Gorbachev should have consulted with the native Americans who got the same kind of promises

The faux surprise is too laughable.

NATO wants a theatre of war for its troops. Russia is being surrounded by missile sites so who in their right mind could expect Russia to stand back and see the Crimea and the warm water port fall into NATO hands.

Please correct me if I am wrong. In 1959, there was a revolution on a small island to the south of Florida that's close enough to our borders but quite a bit further than the distance from Ukraine to Russia. It was an indigenous revolt without foreign aid against a brutal dictator who was the best forever friend of the US elite.

There was no American minority community threatened by the Cuban revolution. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the US arm and sponsor and logistically and financially and militarily support an armed invasion of Cuba? Didn't the US impose an embargo which has lasted 65 years even though Cuba has never threatened America or Americans? Wasn't there a UN vote 188 to 2 (US and Israel opposing) calling for an end to this economic war against Cuba?

The faux surprise and neo indignation leaves me colder than an ice cube.

No one in Russia can vent his anger over NATO's eastward expansion quite as vehemently as Viktor Baranez. The popular columnist with the tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda ("Komsomol Truth"), which has a readership of millions, is fond of railing against the "insidious and reckless" Western military alliance. Russia, Baranez writes, must finally stop treating NATO as a partner.

Baranez, a retired colonel who was the Defense Ministry's spokesman under former Russian President Boris Yeltsin, asks why Russia should even consider joint maneuvers after being deceived by the West. NATO, he writes, "has pushed its way right up to our national borders with its guns." He also argues that, in doing so, NATO has broken all the promises it made during the process of German reunification.

...

In an interview with SPIEGEL at his residence outside Moscow in early November, President Dmitry Medvedev complained that when the Berlin Wall came down, it had "not been possible to redefine Russia's place in Europe." What did Russia get? "None of the things that we were assured, namely that NATO would not expand endlessly eastwards and our interests would be continuously taken into consideration," Medvedev said.

...

On Feb. 10, 1990, between 4 and 6:30 p.m., Genscher spoke with Shevardnadze. According to the German record of the conversation, which was only recently declassified, Genscher said: "We are aware that NATO membership for a unified Germany raises complicated questions. For us, however, one thing is certain: NATO will not expand to the east." And because the conversion revolved mainly around East Germany, Genscher added explicitly: "As far as the non-expansion of NATO is concerned, this also applies in general."

...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nato-s-eastward-expansion-did-the-west-break-its-promise-to-moscow-a-663315.html




From Spiegel Online, dated November 26, 2009: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nato-s-eastward-expansion-did-the-west-break-its-promise-to-moscow-a-663315-2.html

What the US secretary of state said on Feb. 9, 1990 in the magnificent St. Catherine’s Hall at the Kremlin is beyond dispute. There would be, in (James) Baker’s words, “no extension of NATO’s jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east,” provided the Soviets agreed to the NATO membership of a unified Germany. Moscow would think about it, Gorbachev said, but added: “any extension of the zone of NATO is unacceptable.”

Now, 20 years later, Gorbachev is still outraged when he is asked about this episode. "One cannot depend on American politicians," he told SPIEGEL. Baker, for his part, now offers a different interpretation of what he said in 1990, arguing that he was merely referring to East Germany, which was to be given a special status in the alliance -- nothing more.

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