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Do Armed Civilians Stop Mass Shooters? Actually, No.
Five cases commonly cited as a rationale for arming Americans don't stand up to scrutiny.
—By Mark Follman | Mother Jones | Wed Dec. 19, 2012 3:01 AM PS
In the wake of the unthinkable massacre in Connecticut, pro-gun ideologues are once again calling for ordinary citizens to arm themselves as a solution to mass shootings. If only the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School had possessed a M-4 assault rifle she could've stopped the killer, they say. This latest twist on a long-running argument isn't just absurd on its face; there is no evidence to support it. As I reported recently in our in-depth investigation, not one of the 62 mass shootings in the United States over the last 30 years has been stopped this way. More broadly, attempts by armed civilians to intervene in shooting rampages are rare—and are successful even more rarely. (Two people who tried it in recent years were gravely wounded or killed.) And law enforcement overwhelmingly hates the idea.
Those pesky facts haven't stopped the "arm America more!" crowd from pressing the argument with alleged examples of successful armed interventions. The problem is, the few examples they keep using—in which they depict plain old folks acting heroically and with definitive results—fall apart under scrutiny. Here are five of them and why they don't work:
*Appalachian School of Law shooting in Grundy, Virginia
Gun rights die-hards frequently credit the end of a rampage at the law school in 2002 to armed "students" who intervened. They conveniently ignore that those students also happened to be current and former law enforcement officers, and that the killer, according to police investigators, was out of ammunition by the time they got to him. (continued at link below)
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:17 PM (1 replies)
I just got this weird "survey" email from a group I hadn't heard of, called "Revive
America USA". It read as follows:
Dear Fellow American:
I'd never heard of this group, so took the survey. There were only two questions
1) do you agree with Mayor Bloomberg that we need immediate action on gun control in wake of Connecticut massacre?
2) Do you think Bloomberg is saying this just to score cheap political points against Obama?
I answered "yes" to the first question, and said "I'm not in a position to know Bloombergs motives for what he's saying"
to the second one.and pushed "Submit" button. THEN that took me to THIS page.
Right Wing bait & switch Alert! I regret having even filled out their damn "survey". So
this is just a heads up, if you get such an email from this group, I'd recommend just deleting it.
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:02 PM (2 replies)
Conversion kits are prolific on the interwebs, including
everything from commercially available "Conversion Kits",
to do-it-yourself at-home gerry-rigs, demonstrated on
YouTube. This means that most ANY weapon sold as a
"Semi" automatic, can easily be converted to FULLY-
Check it out:
One of these posts was particularly interesting, regarding availability of fully
automatic firearms at "gun shows". "The reality is that semi-automatic rifles,
such as AK-47s or AR-15s, are widely available and sold at gun shows from
private sellers that do not run background checks. Further conversion kits
that make these rifles indistinguishable from machine guns are also widely
available at gun shows."
I share this because, sadly, in the light of the increasingly frequent number of mass
shootings in America, it is becoming crystal clear that --at the very least-- we in the
USA need to do SOMETHING to curb the proliferation of assault weapons; and this is
one of the most perplexing hurdles that we will need to clear in order to actually accomplish
such an ambitious goal -- rather than just go through a bunch of posturing pretending
we've really done something that we really haven't.
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:08 PM (21 replies)
Time-warping to watch Issa's genuflective praise of Petaeus, and also some
interesting comments about Special Ops being used to guard Embassies
and State Dept. personnel.
I couldn't even tell what Issa was trying to say about the latter topic (Special
Ops etc.). Is anyone on DU familiar with this footage, who understands WTF
Issa was hinting at regarding the military guarding embassies?
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:00 PM (2 replies)
Wall Street Journal More Interested in Caviar and Foie Gras Than Employee-owned Firms
Published on Saturday, December 8, 2012 by Common Dreams - by Gar Alperovitz
Social pain, anger at ecological degradation and the inability of traditional politics to address deep economic failings has fueled an extraordinary amount of practical on-the-ground institutional experimentation and innovation by activists, economists and socially minded business leaders in communities around the country.
A vast democratized “new economy” is slowly emerging throughout the United States. The general public, however, knows almost nothing about it because the American press simply does not cover the developing institutions and strategies.
For instance, a sample assessment of coverage between January and November of 2012 by the most widely circulated newspaper in the United States , the Wall Street Journal, found ten times more references to caviar than to employee-owned firms, a growing sector of the economy that involves more than $800 billion in assets and 10 million employee-owners — around three million more individuals than are members of unions in the private sector.
This could be the start of something big. What's not to like about "democratizing the US economy" via worker-owned enterprises?
This kind of restructuring of our economy, literally from the ground up, represents a golden economic recovery opportunity: a win/win strategy that hugely benefits virtually everyone, everyone except the Filthy Rich who are insatiable parasites .... a "1% luxury" we can no longer afford, to continue to run roughshod over the bloody corpses of everybody else, at will.
This could totally become a game-changer, if we choose to make it so. For those of you rusty on your labor history, the early labor movements were ALL about worker-ownership.
In the 1880s, workers formed the Knights of Labor to resist capitalist efforts to reduce wages, create a reserve army of labor, and devalue worker skills. The Knights expanded to become the largest workers organization through mobilizing labor in factories and applying its resources to establish approximately 200 industrial cooperatives. By the end of the 19th century, as mercantile and finance capital established dominance over US politics, the Knights’ effort to create a national cooperative alliance with rural farmers failed to materialize. However these efforts reached an apogee in 1887 through the formation of a coalition with the Farmers Alliance and the organization of succession of new political parties to serve and represent the interests of the new cooperative movement.
Worker-ownership is the next big thing, an idea coming full-circle, whose time has finally come, as evidenced by the WSJ's studied ignorance of this burgeoning phenomenon. This is no "pie in the sky" pipe-dream, as we speak US Senator Bernie Sanders is putting legislative legs onto this concept in Congress: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=782b77ac-49d6-408e-9b32-369735f0091b
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Sun Dec 9, 2012, 05:22 PM (3 replies)
Washington businessmen toast ‘the beginning of the end of prohibition’
As marijuana legalization became the law of the land in Washington state as of midnight, Jamen Shively rang a bell and raised a toast to what he called “the beginning of the end of prohibition.” Shively, a former Microsoft executive, joined fellow businessmen Wednesday night in celebrating both the legalization…
Nate Silver to Conan: GOP should take up drug legalization like ‘a rational political party’
In a fascinating long-form interview with late night talk show host Conan O’Brien published online Friday, New York Times pollster wiz Nate Silver said — while wearing a Cookie Monster T-shirt — that a “rational” Republican Party should take up drug legalization, among other issues, if it hopes to stay relevant. Around 22 minutes into Conan’s interview, he asked Silver what advice he would give the Republican Party going forward in 2016. Silver said that “a rational political party” would modernize its views on issues like same sex marriage, immigration and drug legalization.
“Yes, of course you’re going to shift to the center a little bit on immigration and gay marriage, which are two issues where the younger cohort feel much differently than than older voters do,” Silver said. “Right? Maybe drug legalization and a few other issues like that. That’s what a rational political party would do.”
With marijuana now legal in Washington, what’s next?
marijuana officially legalized in Washington, and Colorado set to join within the next 30 days, Americans are about to get a glimpse at what the future might look like with a radically altered drug war. But that progress also begs the question: Where does the movement to end prohibition go from here?
“I’ve been working 25 years at the tip of the spear on and it’s really frustrating that we didn’t seem to get much traction talking about civil liberties and social justice,” Vivian McPeak, executive director of Seattle’s annual Hempfest, told Raw Story. “We start talking about tax revenue and the other financial aspects and, boy, everyone starts to perk up. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter how we get there. These policies are hurting America way more than marijuana is hurting America.”
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:49 PM (0 replies)
This is the first I've heard about this. What do you make of this? It makes me
a little nervous and curious as to what all is going on here. Also I somehow suspect
that the Patraeus scandal is somehow involved. Is anyone else trying to connect
National insider threat memorandum: What is the threat?
By Gregory Patin (Page 1 of 3 pages)
OpEdNews Op Eds 12/6/2012 at 07:11:33
On the day before Thanksgiving with little or no media attention, President Obama wrote a memorandum, that is an unofficial directive, to the "heads of executive departments and agencies" that addresses "insider threats." While the corporate media largely ignored this memo, there has recently been much speculation in alternative media as to why Obama felt the need to address insider threats at this time.
The subject heading of the memo is "National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs." It is short enough to reprint in its entirety:
This Presidential Memorandum transmits the National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs (Minimum Standards) to provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security. These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation, and unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including the vast amounts of classified data available on interconnected United States Government computer networks and systems.
The Minimum Standards provide departments and agencies with the minimum elements necessary to establish effective insider threat programs. These elements include the capability to gather, integrate, and centrally analyze and respond to key threat-related information; monitor employee use of classified networks; provide the workforce with insider threat awareness training; and protect the civil liberties and privacy of all personnel.
Here's link to rest of story, which also has other links embedded in it to source materials.
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:22 AM (3 replies)
Regarding the USA’s “War on Terror”, it is high time to start calling it what it is:
A) A “cover” for conducting a perpetual imperialistic military crusade to impose US hegemony on the rest of the world to insure the US’s ability to economically exploit the environmental and human resources any given nation at any such time as the US chooses to do so,
B) An excuse for repressing, criminalizing and obliterating, at will, any meaningful domestic dissent of “the people” that in any way seriously challenges the private interests of our monied corporate oligarchy.
C) A way of keeping the shadowy “military/industrial/prison complex” in absolute control -- yes, that very same $editiou$ Franken$tein that Ike & JFK tried to warn us about -- not only of US foreign policy, but also our domestic policy and fiscal policies as well. In short, the whole ball of wax.
Why anyone spends one more precious minute pretending that this hideous “war on terror” charade is anything other than a deadly cancer on the body politic is utterly beyond me. The so-called "War on Drugs" is similarly an inordinately cruel and repressive force wielded by minions of The Dark $ide, for profit and unfettered power. This is just how near-boiling the water is, in our little proverbial frog pond.
I don’t know exactly what the answer to all this is, but I'd like to think Team Obama has "got this". I fervently hope that our President is discretely moving in very incremental steps to restore the same kind of sanity and humanity to our public life that JFK, FDR, MLK, RFK, et. al lived and died for; but I’m not exactly holding my breath either, in light of Obama’s drone policy, kill lists, NDAA, Gitmo, Bradley Manning, etc.
The irony is, even if Obama IS doing what I am hoping, he wouldn’t be able to come out and say it publicly. He would have to pretend to be doing otherwise, to be Mr. Macho WinsWarOnTerror -- until a sudden and sure moment of truth, where there is a sea change, before a shot is fired on anyone ... rather like the Smedley Butler incident. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
I honestly and whole-heartedly wish Obama and Biden et. al. all the best, and I do support them because that's who I voted for, that's who we elected; but also feel strongly about this being THE opportunity to put a halt to these two tragically misguided "Wars on ...". Instead, let's wage peace, and bring our "nation-building" home, rebuild our infrastructure, support education, health-care for all, etc. rather than piss away our precious resources waging deadly perpetual counter-productive "Wars".
What a crazy f*cking world we live in.
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Thu Dec 6, 2012, 06:40 PM (4 replies)
...and how Occupy Sandy is providing for many basic needs of those being pretty much abandoned otherwise.
Katrina, All Over Again
Tuesday, 04 December 2012 13:46
By Chris Hedges, Truthdig | News Analysis
"Food distribution centers, most of them set up by volunteers from Occupy Sandy Recovery, hastily close before dark every day because of the danger of looting and robbery. And storm victims who remain in their damaged homes, often without heat, electricity or running water, clutch knives against the threat of gangs that prowl at night through the wreckage.
This is the new America. It is an America where economic and environmental catastrophes converge to trigger systems breakdown and collapse. It is an America divided between corporate predators and their prey. It is an America that, as things unravel, increasingly sacrifices its own.
Lauren Ferebee, originally from Dallas and now living in Greenpoint in Brooklyn, sits behind a table in the chilly basement of the 123-year-old St. Jacobi Evangelical Lutheran Church, founded by German immigrants. On large pieces of cardboard hanging from the ceiling are the words “Occupy Sandy Relief.” The basement is filled with donated supplies including pet food, diapers, infant formula, canned goods, cereal and pasta. The church was converted two days after the storm into a food bank and distribution center for the victims of the hurricane. Hundreds of people converge daily on the church to work. Volunteers with cars or vans deliver supplies to distribution points in other parts of New York and in New Jersey."
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:14 AM (2 replies)
China prepares to grow vegetables on Mars
Oh noes!!! Now we are losing the space race to the Commies!!!
Posted by 99th_Monkey | Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:40 PM (3 replies)