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Max Keiser website discussion re: Naomi Wolff's creepy concerns about Snowden.


Now that literally "Everybody Knows", there is no turning back

There is no escaping our responsibility -- both collectively and personally -- to
begin imagining and recreating our world completely anew, from the grass-roots
up, based on what kind of future we ALL want for our children and grandchildren.

We ALL "have skin" in this endgame. Every last one of us.

Can you say "Constitutional Convention" yet?



MOSCOW (AP) -- Edward Snowden has found supporters in Latin America, including three countries who have offered him asylum. But many obstacles stand in the way of the fugitive NSA leaker from leaving a Russian airport - chief among them the power and influence of the United States.

Because Snowden's U.S. passport has been revoked, the logistics of him departing are complicated. Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia have made asylum offers over the past two days, but the three countries haven't indicated they would help Snowden by issuing a travel document, which he would need to leave Russia.

The former NSA systems analyst, who is charged with violating U.S. espionage laws, is believed to be stuck in the transit area of Moscow's main international airport after arriving June 23 from Hong Kong.

Russia doesn't appear willing to help him leave the airport, with Kremlin spokesman Alexei Pavlov saying Saturday the issue of Snowden's travel documents is "not our business." On Monday, President Vladimir Putin said Snowden would be offered asylum in Russia if he stopped leaking U.S. secrets. Snowden then withdrew his Russian asylum bid, a Russian official said.

While President Barack Obama has publicly displayed a relaxed attitude toward Snowden's movements, saying last month that he wouldn't be "scrambling jets" to capture him, other senior U.S. officials have used unusually harsh language that they want him back.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said China had "unquestionably" damaged its relationship with Washington for not returning Snowden, who recently turned 30, from semi-autonomous Hong Kong while he was still there.

"The Chinese have emphasized the importance of building mutual trust," Carney said last month. "We think that they have dealt that effort a serious setback. If we cannot count on them to honor their legal extradition obligations, then there is a problem."


Obama may not be "scrambling jets", but you can bet your booties that the USA's "Shadow Government" is in full panic mode, pulling out all the stops to apprehend Mr. Snowden; while their front man in the WH pretends to be unconcerned. Quite an odd juxtaposition imho.

NOTE TO DU ADMIN: This was posted in another forum, and locked by Admin. for being "off-topic". The mod conceded that this was "good information", said "we hope you will repost ... as an OP in the GD". I looked to see if it had been reposted and couldn't find it, so am doing it myself. If it actually WAS reposted in GD, then by all means I'd be happy to self-delete.

To those who say ‘trust the government’ on NSA spying: Remember J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI?

It's after 2 a.m. Tuesday morning, and I'm heading to bed finally; but I just stumbled
across this at Raw Story (from the Guardian), and couldn't resist posting it before logging
off to go nite-nite.


To those who say ‘trust the government’ on NSA spying: Remember J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI?
By Barrett Brown, The Guardian
Monday, July 1, 2013 13:19 EDT

Those who tell us to trust the US’s secret, privatised surveillance schemes should recall the criminality of J Edgar Hoover’s FBI

It’s a fine thing to see mainstream American media outlets finally sparing some of their attention toward the cyber-industrial complex – that unprecedented conglomeration of state, military and corporate interests that together exercise growing power over the flow of information. It would be even more heartening if so many of the nation’s most influential voices, from senator to pundits, were not clearly intent on killing off even this belated scrutiny into the invisible empire that so thoroughly scrutinizes us – at our own expense and to unknown ends.

Summing up the position of those who worry less over secret government powers than they do over the whistleblowers who reveal such things, we have New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, who argues that we can trust small cadres of unaccountable spies with broad powers over our communications. We must all wish Friedman luck with this prediction. Other proclamations of his – including that Vladimir Putin would bring transparency and liberal democracy to Russia, and that the Chinese regime would not seek to limit its citizens’ free access to the internet – have not aged especially well.

An unkind person might dismiss Friedman as the incompetent harbinger of a dying republic. Being polite, I will merely suggest that Friedman’s faith in government is as misplaced as faith in the just and benevolent God that we know not to exist – Friedman having been the winner of several of the world’s most-coveted Pulitzer Prizes.

If Friedman is, indeed, too quick to trust the powerful, it’s a trait he shares with the just over half of Americans, who tell pollsters they’re fine with the NSA programs that were until recently hidden from their view. Why, our countrymen wonder, ought we to be disturbed by our state’s desire to know everything that everyone does? Given the possibility that this surveillance could perhaps prevent deaths in the form of terrorist attacks, most Americans are willing to forgo some abstract notion of privacy in favor of the more concrete benefits of security.

Besides, the government to which we’re ceding these broad new powers is a democracy, overseen by real, live Americans. And it’s hard to imagine American government officials abusing their powers – or at least, it would be, had such officials not already abused similar but more limited powers through repeated campaigns of disinformation, intimidation and airtight crimes directed at the American public over the last five decades. Cointelpro, Operation Mockingbird, Ultra and Chaos are among the now-acknowledged CIA, FBI and NSA programs by which those agencies managed to subvert American democracy with impunity. Supporters of mass surveillance conducted under the very same agencies have yet to address how such abuses can be insured against in the context of powers far greater than anything J Edgar Hoover could command.

Many have never heard of these programs; the sort of people who trust states with secret authority tend not to know what such things have led to in the recent past. Those who do know of such things may perhaps contend that these practices would never be repeated today. But it was just two years ago that the late Michael Hastings revealed that US army officials in Afghanistan were conducting psy-ops against visiting US senators in order to sway them towards continued funding for that unsuccessful war. If military and intelligence officials have so little respect for the civilian leadership, one can guess how they feel about mere civilians.

Not that anyone need merely guess. Discussing the desirability of such “information operations” in his 2001 book, retired USAF Lt Col George Crawford noted that voters tend to view these sorts of programs with suspicion. “Consequently,” he concludes, “these efforts must take place away from public eyes.”

MORE HERE: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/01/to-those-who-say-trust-the-government-on-nsa-spying-remember-j-edgar-hoovers-fbi/

NSA/Greenwald/Snowden: Everybody Knows the Deal is Rotten

Watching this whole NSA/Greenwald/Snowden thing day-to-day, prompts me to imagine -- if only for brief periods -- living inside the mind of one of the .01%, and when I do, it feels increasingly crowded with lies, fear and frustration. Through this imaginal Looking Glass, I see someone living in fear, stuck in a frenzied mental state that spells "Danger to Others", especially if your name happens to be Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, or now Glen Greenwald & The Guardian. Imagine the anguished screams & the heads exploding among the ranks on goon squads at NSA, CIA, FBI, et. al, both to CYA AND to "GET SNOWDEN NOW!! (e.g. before he spills ALL the beans) ... except that they cannot really stop these leaks anymore. A whole handful of very brave people have clearly put themselves very much in harms way, and that's putting very lightly; and they did it for me and for you, and for the constitution. As surely as the sun will rise in the East, others will follow, and imho ...this is "Game Over". Period.

Now Leonard Cohen's "Everybody Knows" takes on a brand new meaning.

The reason it's pretty much OVER for "Captain$ of the Univer$e" is because of Snowden's public statements (which I have no reason to disbelieve) to the effect that he has already given 100% of the information in question, duplicated many times over, deposited "for safe keeping" at many locations, for immediate release,
just in case Mr. Snowden has any unseemly "accidents" in a small plane, or his car suddenly & inexplicably accelerates out of control until it bursts into flames.

The mind-boggling but indisputable "Good News" is this: like it or not, the cat is out of the bag now, and all the horses have left the barn. These rather embarrassing USA/NSA issues are Front & Center on the World Stage right now, and we're not looking so good. There really is no going back now, a simple refreshing truth for which I am immensely grateful, and every American should be. Most of us will get through all the shit-storms that will be thrown at us as we enter this potentially transformative period of history. But -- make no mistake about it -- I think we ARE "on our way" to a somewhere much better than our Corporate Overlords wanted. All the more reason we must keep our wits about us, and not just "be open to change", but actually step forward to embrace needed changes, step into making history. Rather than remaining invisibly oppressed by it, why not recreate it?

Yes we can. < I think the 99% should hijack and recycle this, all the way to Obama's doorstep. My hopeful side believes that Obama desperately wants us to do that. Yes, we need to begin choosing our battles a bit more carefully at times, but never will the 99% completely give up, even when the cops come, or the threats come, or whatever they throw.

One way to look at this is that Obama NEEDS us to resist. I don't believe for a minute Obama likes what is happening, but I DO know how much he appears to love his family, and want to raise his lovely children, as he should, sheilded by the wealth they have acquired along the way to becoming a president no one thought they elected, once post-election everyones masks came off behind closed doors.

The Big Lie is that it's "every person for themselves now" , like most lies, this lie creates separation and fear if I buy into it, because that is precisely how your average rich greedy fuck thinks, if you can call it thinking. This whole "survival of the fittest" and " sounds more like literally casting an evil spell, through their hired mega-corporate mouthpieces, by projecting their own selfishness and twisted inner-ugliness out onto the rest of the Human Race. Fuck that. I don't buy it for a second. But I digress ... where were we? Oh yah, we were imaging BEING one of the .01% ruling class, sitting on ALL the weaponry, and ALL the riches, and ALL the political influence you will ever need to be with all our secrets

Red State or Blue, imagine what must be racing through millions of upper-class minds right now, perhaps caught red-handed pilfering from the public purse, while profiting from the misery of most of their "fellow citizens", while at the same time discovering (perhaps for the first time) that even if you are rich and famous -- all of YOUR DATA, phone calls & emails, etc. could ALSO very easily slip into SOMEONE ELSE's hands, the "wrong hands, to be used against you anytime they so chose. All that 'humming' you hear is all the imagination wheels racing to recall where all the bodies are buried, if there is any damning evidence "they" NOW have on ME. It's like pretty much ALL of us are now living in a Spy v. Spy fishbowl surrounded by one-way see-through glass,

So THIS is the world we really WANT to be co-creating? I think not. In fact I believe we now live in a world where .01% of the people get to live in unimaginable wealth and god-like splendor, while literally everyone else is either a "Partner in Crime", or ultimately a hireling at their OverLord's beck and call, publicly, vocationally, covertly, directly or indirectly, all of those and more. But eventually, when someone is no longer "useful", then what?

For the 99.9%, when you become no longer useful you are "laid off", if you are lucky. If you are not lucky, i.e. you know too much and/or are "in the wrong VIPs way", then you get murdered, or otherwise disposed of, likely reduced to poverty and lack. You will NOT be a happy camper blacklisted, trying to somehow find another decent job in our jobless economy. can just fuck off and die as far as the .01% cares; unless we get real "creative" to conjure up a totally new way to be "useful", to "do your part" to keep this Wall St./DC Punch & Judy Show going. If I were even one of the wealthiest 50%, I'd probably be trying to recall all my slips, and weak moments, wondering just how "loyal" my "trusted help" really is, wondering what their own "profile" looks might like behind the NSA/CIA e/phone curtain, To sum up, unless you ARE ALREADY behind The Curtain, you are already "under suspicion of being a traitor unless you STFU, lay low, listen to your bosses, listen to your government so-called, take care of your family and be just be thankful your number hasn't come up yet.

imagine suddenly becoming a "person of interest" while holding a high socio-economic rank or office. If it were me, I'd be racking my memory trying to recall every slip of the tongue, every batch of key-strokes, that someone might use against me, since anyone who can get their hands on it will be able to hurt me bad. Is there any way for this person to live an honorable life, living in perpetual fear of getting thrown like so much red meat out the back door to pack of ravenous beasts, while the whole house of cards comes crashing down around our ears? Now LOTS of people are wondering who might show up at the door with some very unseemly pictures of them at that crazy party (pics who someone else there took on their cell phone), pictures that would be sufficiently embarrassing to ruin my marriage, destroy my career, pictures with which I suddenly find myself being blackmailed.

No one is completely safe now. Certainly not us, you and me, as we're mere pawns & peons. But even if you are Warren Buffet, you DO have enemies, enemies who now may be able to "get the goods" on you, to bring you down. Even certain rich people can become very "expendable" very fast, just ask the Kennedy Clan about that. So even if you are rich, you are now more vulnerable to becoming a "person of interest" now for going to the wrong webnsites, or having the wrong opinions about politics or the economy, or caring about who is really running things in Amerika.

Besides the Super-rich, there are certainly others who deserve some "credit" for this draconian train-wreck, i.e. all those obedient lapdogs, 100s of thousands of good folks mostly working & living in either NYC or Washington DC, who work as a Congress Critter, OR as Congressional staff, OR for a Federal Bureau, OR as a Lobbyist with the infamous "K Street" crowd, OR you get a paycheck from one of the M$M outlets (formerly known as the "Free Press").

Now that literally EVERYONE is under surveillance by people authorized to murder them, if they fit a certain "terrorist profile", anything and everything can and will be used against us, to our detriment. We will all get used-up eventually, to be "exposed" and/or disposed of. The NSA files that Snowden is exposing day by day -- drip drip -- it will continue until many a Fat Cat gets taken down by an angry public or by the .01%'s goons, all of which means that ever more people are likely to step forward so much so, that the list simply gets too long to keep track of anymore, as citizens begin waking up, re-imagining and re-creating our world anew, to be a much healthier and happier place, especially when compared to the Hellhole we were being bamboozled into accepting as a "future".

It's time we devise a better way to conduct our public business: i.e. convene a Constitutional Convention, or come upwith some kind of "National Referendum", to revise and update our founding documents, so that:
a) They accurately reflect the situation we actually live in, especially in light of medical & technological advances,
b) also such that it is clearly the "will of the people", and not dictates of the super-rich.

I know I've indulged in a bit rambling here & have perhaps become a little grandiose at times, but I felt inspired to start a DU conversation about some of surprisingly constructive opportunities & longer-term possible outcomes that are becoming much more imaginable as the GG/ESnowden/NSA revelations keep doing their work of disinfecting this place.

Glenn Greenwald Speaks: Introduced by Jeremy Scahill at recent Socialist event.

GG is skyped into the event, as I assume he is laying low in an "undisclosed
location", for very good reasons. Glenn gets a hero's welcome, and a scathing
refreshingly courageous introduction by Jeremy Scahill.

Anyone trashing Glenn Greenwald needs to watch this, before continuing
absurd accusations that GG is a "Libertarian"; because he "comes out" here
on Skyp as "loving the energy" of the Socialist annual gathering. Gasp!

This video is an hour long, so BOOKMARK as needed, but please
allow Mr. Greenwald to speak for himself, rather than through the blind
eyes our .,01% Richest-owned-M$M. I'm only 8 minutes into this, and
my ears are already tingling.

This is some very important & timely footage, so it's highly recommended.

PLEASE kick & rec as inspired.

Esquire: Transcript of Zimmerman's 1st cop interview.."The Quote That Should End the Trayvon Trial"

Both truly revealing and more than a little disturbing. I've heard pieces of it, repeated
and attributed to Zimmerman, but this captures the conversational flow with this officer;
and his whole presentation is so utterly bogus, or it appears that way to me.


The Quote That Should End the Trayvon Trial
June 24, 2013 * Esquire Magazine * by John H. Richardson

George Zimmerman is going to be found guilty. All the evidence you need — all the evidence the cops needed — is right there in the interrogation they did with him three days after the shooting. The only thing more shocking than what Zimmerman says in the clip, which was released on the internet one year ago, is how little it has impressed the bloviating jerks who dominate the coverage of this trial.

Why did he follow Martin, a police officer asks.
“These assholes, they always get away,” Zimmerman answers.

The officer asks, “What’s behind that?”
“These people who victimize the neighborhood,” Zimmerman answers.

In Zimmerman’s angry mind, without trial or jury, even after he killed him and learned he was a 17-year-old who was legitimately staying in the complex, Martin was an "asshole victimizing the neighborhood".

The officer gets a little defensive at this point. “There was an arrest a week ago,” he points out, though it is also a gentle reminder that Zimmerman’s fear might be a tad misplaced. He continues, skeptically. "How was he running?" Zimmerman describes it and the officer says, “Sounds like he was running to get away... you jumped out of car to see which way he was running? That’s not fear … it’s going to be a problem.”

Then Zimmerman whispers something. “What is that you whispered?” the officer asks. “Fucking what?”
“Punks,” Zimmerman says.

An address? This may be the moment that will convict him.

MORE HERE> (if you can stomach it) http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/trayvon-martin-trial-quote-police-interview?src=soc_fcbks

TGI Fridays, Irish pubs & free Wi-Fi: Welcome to Edward Snowden's airport hideaway

"Comfortable" or not, I certainly wouldn't want to be Snowden stranded in this airport, having to elude detection, with so many pissed-off people looking for him. This "high-school drop out" has managed to stay a few steps ahead of capture, so far, at least.

I hope there is a way for him to stay safe, and settle somewhere "in excile". I heard Venezuela might take him in.


TGI Fridays, Irish pubs and free Wi-Fi: Welcome to Edward Snowden's airport hideaway
By Ghazi Balkiz and Marian Smith, NBC News

MOSCOW – If self-proclaimed NSA leaker Edward Snowden has the means, he might just be able to survive indefinitely in the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport. Dozens of journalists have been looking for Snowden at the vast complex, but he hasn't been spotted since arriving in Russia from Hong Kong last weekend. Russian authorities say that he is in the airport's transit area -- the zone between the departure gate and formal entry into the country.

So what is his apparent new home like?

As it turns out, the old Soviet international terminal about 20 miles northwest of central Moscow is quite comfortable.
There are restaurants – from your relatively formal establishments to TGI Fridays and your run-of-the-mill fast-food joints like Burger King (although this one conveniently sells beer).

Local Russian cuisine and salads are available at the more traditional cafes. And there are plenty of coffee shops should the ever-elusive fugitive want to fuel up on caffeine before a flight to Havana, Cuba, or Quito, Ecuador on Russia's international airline Aeroflot. There are even a couple of Irish pubs, a medical center and of course, free Wi-Fi – no doubt essential for the digital desperado. If Snowden is looking to buy some clothes, options are limited but they do exist. He could splash out on expensive designer shirts or go budget and browse for souvenirs. He might even blend in as a tourist with a trusty Russian flag T-shirt.

Rooms at the Capsule Hotel in the transit area are available to rent for short stretches – a minimum of 4 hours for $70 – or for longer layovers. Obviously the longer you stay, the more you pay, so it could get rather pricey for someone seeking sanctuary. But at the very least Snowden could take a shower and nap for a few hours. Bathrooms in the terminal building are clean but the facilities are downright luxurious in business class lounges. In addition to eating and drinking for free, Snowden might help himself to shampoo, conditioner, body lotions, flip flops and a towel on his way to the shower.

Although the airport is vast, there are actually very few places to hide in Sheremetyevo's wide-open spaces. However, there is believed to be a VIP area that may have direct access to the tarmac for high-profile personalities and government officials. While Snowden’s whereabouts remain unknown-- he wouldn’t be the first person to log in some serious time in an airport terminal. Mehran Karimi Nasseri, an Iranian refugee, spent 17 years living in Charles de Gaulle airport when he was denied entry to France, but couldn’t go back to Iran. His story made the big screen when it was dramatized in the 2004 Steven Spielberg movie “The Terminal” starring Tom Hanks.

Snowden's diplomatic options would definitely have to dry up to top that.


Why is this tolerated by the public? It's a worsening & very disturbing trend.

Teenager Commits Suicide After Police Launch Social Media Campaign Against Him
When a teenager failed to appear in court on substance abuse charges, the police began
cyber-bulling him on Facebook.

Cops Shoot Family Dog Just Because
Police officers in a Chicago suburb sat in front of a home for 20 minutes, then without any
provocation shot the family dog.

Greenwald: Every Phone Call is Recorded and Stored-- A Globalized System Designed to Destroy Privacy

Greenwald: Every Phone Call is Recorded and Stored-- A Globalized System Designed to Destroy Privacy, includes video
6/29/2013 * OpEdNews * By Rob Kall

Glenn Greenwald, in a skyped in talk to the Socialism 2013 Conference, told the audience, for the first time, according to him, about his experience going through the process of encountering, interacting with Ed Snowden, at first anonymously, then seeing his first evidence that Snowden was the real deal. "It made me dizzy," he described.

Greenwald, who has been a regular at the conference for several years, told the audience that a bombshell he would soon be releasing was that "NSA can redirect to its storage one billion cell phone calls every thing day. They are storing every call and have the capability to listen to them... It is a globalized system designed to destroy all privacy--- with no accountabliity and no safeguards."

He described the debate about his journalism is " being led by TV actors who play the role of journalists on TV. "

Glenn discussed how the US military's banning of access to the Guardian, the paper he publishes with, at all military bases, was better than receiving a Pulitzer or any other journalism award. He cited David Halberstam, saying, "David Halberstam viewed the measure of good journalism by how much you anger the people in power."

Greenwald was introduced by fellow investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill, who spoke before Greenwald. Scahill said, "What Glenn Greenwald has done in the past few weeks, with his reporting is to shake the foundations of power. " and, also, in Scahill's own talk, he said, "there already was a coup in this country. It happened a long time ago. It was when corporations took control."

Glenn talked at length about Edward Snowden. Here are some of the quotes from his talk. (They're from notes so some may be paraphrased. Check the video below for the verbatim wording.)

There's more to life than material comfort or career stability or trying to live as long as you can. He judged his life based on his beliefs and the actions he took in the face of those beliefs.

Snowden: Leasdership is about going first and setting an example for others.

There was never a moment, never an iota of remorse, regret or fear. This was an individual completely at peace with the choice that he'd made.

Snowden was inspired by Bradley manning.

Courage is contagious. If you take a courageous step as an individual, you will immediately effect the world because you will affect other individuals.

it doesn't matter who you are as an individual or how formidable or powerful the institutions you want to challenge are.

He is a person with zero power, zero prestige, zero privilege yet he has changed the world.

He stepped forward and made himself a target for the good of all of us.

He will set an example for other people to come forward and blow the whistle on the corrupt and illegal things.

We need to defend him and hold him up for the noble example that he is."

Here's the video of Greenwald below. This is almost an hour and worth every second. He is scathing about the mainstream media. So was Scahill. More tomorrow-- I'm on my way back to the Socialism 2013 conference. #s13 on twitter.

Source Link: http://www.opednews.com/articles/Greenwald-Every-Phone-Cal-by-Rob-Kall-130629-734.html
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