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Obama’s "I’m-Not-Dick-Cheney" Standard for Government Secrecy

On several threads recently I've made the observation that some of the stuff Obama
is doing -- related to creating an intrusive 100% saturation surveillance matrix, coupled
with a national security police-state aparatus, with kill lists and drones -- would not have
been tolerated by the Democrats on the Hill under a Republican President.

For pointing this out, I've been subjected to harsh derision and ridicule, by "outraged"
DUers that I would entertain such a notion, assuring me that under Prez. RawMoney,
we'd have it much worse, so I shouldn't worry. Move along now. Nothing here to see.

Well, then I see this on firedoglake, and as often happens, I find that someone else has
written the article I could have written myself on this topic, as is the case with this article;
which illustrates the exact point I was making, and it apparently came out of the mouth of
Obama himself.

Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, upset about not being provided with memos containing the legal justification for targeted killing operations, such as drone strikes, was apparently told by President Barack Obama not to worry because he is not Vice President Dick Cheney.

POLITICO reports:

…Near the outset of his closed-door session with the Senate Democratic conference on Tuesday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) confronted the president over the administration’s refusal for two years to show congressional intelligence committees Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel memos justifying the use of lethal force against American terror suspects abroad…

Obama apparently responded, “This is not Dick Cheney we’re talking about here.” He argued his administration was “more open to oversight than that of President George W. Bush, whom many Democratic senators attacked for secrecy and for expanding executive power in the national security realm.” He also said, as if it was some kind of valid justification for secrecy, he was “not involved in drafting such memos.”


As a Senior life-long progressive "radical"/Democrat (sometimes Independent or Green),
I feel it is my civic duty to point out the insidious nature of hyper-technological draconian
over-reach (with security cameras every where, drones on their way, DHS buying billions
of bullets and armor-plated vehicles mysteriously, etc.) , no matter WHO is in charge of it,
or WHO tries to tell me "Just Trust Us, we're the good-guys".

I don't need to be reminded that Obama "is better than" RawMoney on many fronts, but
on the civil liberties front this is small consolation when "better than" looks like my worse
nightmare taking shape, in terms of the kind of world or society I want to live in.

Imagine we are in a dream

Imagine we are in a dream
John Hubbird * 3/11/13

Imagine we are in a dream together, right now, 
in this precious moment of borrowed time.
What part of myself are you? 
And who am I to you?

Can we come ever more fully into our own together?  
Collaboratively, collectively choreographed e-motion?
Can we unlock these Ancient Chains?
Can we reclaim our Humanity?

These epiphanies and many more like them,
Oozing out despite Invisible Hand buggery, 
Despite their shame behind Shadow’s Veil. 
Trying in vein to disappear Truth itself.  

But the Bees know.
The grass knows.
The Mountain shouts it loud. 
Through liquid ruby sky falling.  

Centered semblance of myself, 
holding breath, then deep breathing, 
swinging pendant. 

By the stark outlines of no tomorrow, 
by the bleeding edge of us down under, 
the jack-boot of a few filthy lucre addicts, 
drunk on their own snake oil. 

Merciless, heartless, calculating. 
Predatory, Vampiric, Cannibalistic, 
Hell on Earth is on the march everywhere, 
and it’s spirit name is Wetiko.  

These horrors aside, it’s never too late to dream,
or imagine  a transformed world of raw beauty & grace. 
It’s never too late to love.
or to live each day anew.  

Together, we don't know yet what we can do?
Together rhyms with tethers unfurled, 
Each for every other to the end of Time. 
Intermission now before the last act.  

________*_________* ________*_________* ________

To learn more about Wetiko, how to help dispel it, etc.,  
please see: http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/


Workers Unite to Buy-out Corporate America!

This is a juncture in History where Labor needs to make an abrupt LEFT hand
turn on a dime, to focus like a laser beam primarily on leveraging worker buyouts
of "distressed" business (the ones that vultures like Bain Capital prey upon); and
secondarily focus on both retaining extant collective bargaining contracts and on
incubating and supporting worker-owned startup businesses.

The workers can take back what's been stolen, but this is the ONLY means by which
they can; because history illustrates clearly that at the end of the day OWNERSHIP
is EVERYTHING, i.e. including that it ultimately trumps any collective bargaining
"victories" of the past, before the 1% figured out how to buy off 1/2 of the workers
to begger and bugger the other 1/2.


IMHO this is what the Labor Movement needs to get back into, and pronto!!

rather than collective bargaining motif, which hasn't worked out so well
over the long haul, which has led to outsourcing, downsizing, and all
manner of anti-worker laws being passed. Fuck 'em. Just buy and own
the freaking factory, using well-known, tried and true methodologies and
models that have been around for over a century.
This is what the Labor Movement was pretty much ALL ABOUT in the late
1800's and during 1900s, until they dumped all their eggs into the collective
bargaining basket in early 20th century in the US.

When the workers own the business, and hire management, there's no
fucking way they are going to "outsource" their jobs, and because they own
the business that pays their wages, they can actually afford to run at less
of a "profit", which to them is just a bonus on top of their wages.
see Mondragon phenomenon in Spain:

Also there is a technical assistance resource nationally for this kind of thing,
either start-ups or buy-out conversions. http://www.nceo.org/

It isn't that the labor movement is "dead" so much as it IS that collective bargaining
as a model for leveraging a living wage, has outlived itself; and that worker
ownership is the future of the labor movement, if it has one.
Also see: "Revealed: Wall Street Journal More Interested in Caviar and Foie Gras
Than Employee-owned Firms: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/12/08-6

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

The "War on Terror" in a nutshell.

Cross posted in General Discussion, FYI.

"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half."

This quote is generally attributed to an 19th century railroad tycoon named Jay
Gould, but sadly his robber-baron creed is far from dead. In fact, it is very much
alive and well, hiding behind dark SCOTUS robes decreeing that that "corporations
are people". And the results have been predictably draconian.

This is precisely what is so compelling for the 1%, to push the "Terrorist" meme,
is that it provides "cover" for 1% to "lawfully" hire 1/2 the working class..." to
oppress, neutralize, eliminate whoever it wants to, in broad daylight with impunity,
because, well, because they can; and it's "profitable" from their standpoint to do
After all, that's what unfettered corporate capitalism does best, destroy lives,
pollute the air, water, and soil, trample the rights of citizens, extort money from
the poor, etc. and then to crush anyone who questions their authority to do so.
See Chris Hedges, if you haven't already heard him out on this.

The more time that passes, since Jay Gould, since the 1985 movie by Terry Gilliam
"Brazil" prophetically predicted our sham "War on Terror", 16 years before 911 kicked
this bogus war into hyper-drive, the more this clip from Brazil speaks for itself.

IMHO this is the CORE ISSUE of our time, and it's not going to get any "better"
until this pointless, endless "War on Terror" is called by it's proper name "1%'s
War on We The People". Hell, our own generals tell us that the drone wars are
"creating more terrorists" exponentially, as family member of "collateral damage"
victims vow to get revenge. But aren't there a few "really bad guys" out there
who'd like nothing more than to blow up a shopping mall? The answer to this is
unfortunately "yes"; however, we already had a full-spectrum law enforcement
apparatus in place before 911, before the Patriot Act, before the Dept. of Homeland
Security, before the NDAA paved the way for "indefinite detention" to become the
"law" of the land, eclipsing virtually all constitutional rights of US citizens.

Any actual real terrorists that may exist (who are not double/triple agents with ties
to our own CIA) are only the tip of a huge iceberg of foreign resentment and hatred
of the USA's arrogant imperialistic covert wars of subterfuge, double-dealing and deceit,
and our maniacal militaristic habit of invading other nations when it suits the 1%'s
pocketbooks to do so.

Call me crazy, but that's how I see it. I don't for a minute believe that Obama likes
this any more than most of us on DU, but he does have a lovely family who doesn't
want to see his brains splattered in public. I can't really say I blame him for going
along with it, and I certainly don't envy being him right now, given the fast track to
Dystopia that's becoming the new normal.
<--help! I'm running out of tinfoil.

The Official Wesley Clark for Secretary of Defense string. The right person. The right time.

Near as I can tell, the RePukes must just be ASKING for Obama to
nominate Clark, since they don't like the Republican that Obama first

I don't know of any "dirt" anyone has on Clark, that would preclude
him from serious consideration. Does anyone?

The most "contriversial" thing Clark's done, according to Wikipedia
anyway, is to speak out for Obama's presidential run in '08.

What say you DU? Clark for DoD Secretary?

My sincere apologies

If you don't know what I'm apologizing for, i.e. not aware
of the recent post of mine that was scrubbed by DU jury,
then you can ignore this OP, as it doesn't apply to you.

But if you do know, please accept my heart-felt apology
for any offense that my post may have visited upon your

NDAA Nooz: A Youn Man from Occupy Virginia Speaks Out For 1st & 5th Amendments of US Constitution

My hat is off to this young man. Well done Trey.

THIS is what it looks like to truly "serve your country well". I am a lifelong
Democrat and a long-time Obama supporter, who voted for him in both 08 & 12.
And as such, I feel similarly to Trey: i.e. that it is my patriotic DUTY to find every
conceivable way to apply pressure on the President to undo this NDAA travesty, now
happeningin a virtual black hole of studious NON-coverage by the M$M, so the general
public is pretty much completely clueless about these new laws, and their long term
implications and dangers, especially under future presidents who may not be nearly
as trustworthy and "benign" as President Obama.

We are not doing Obama any favors by allowing the NDAA train-wreck in slow
motion to roll over our rights, unimpeded by any grass-roots progressive Resistance.
This is precisely what the OCCUPY WALL ST. phenomenon was/is ALL about.

I feel it's my duty as a US citizen to also speak out about this issue, and to continue
to do what I can, to support and report on the currently unfolding trials and hearings
re: Chris Hedges et al vs. Barack Obama.


NDAA - A Youn Man from Virginia Takes a Stand Against Autocracy in New York City
OpEdNews Op Eds 2/14/2013 at 12:19:23 *** By Marianne Hoynes

A threat to our right to bear arms seems to get a lot of people from all sides of the issue very plugged in and outraged. Nothing has been done to regulate the Second Amendment to the Constitution yet, but imagine what the People would do, if the Congress and the President just did away with all gun rights for all Americans?

Congress and The President have done away with First and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution, by a law passed in 2012 called NDAA or National Defense Authorization Act. There is very little outcry that We the People have lost our right to free speech, free press or the right to peacefully assemble, granted in the First Amendment. We have lost the protection of the Fifth Amendment. We can now be deprived of life, liberty and property without due process of law. We have lost our most basic Miranda rights, and rights to habeus corpus. Most Americans are not following the details in this case that affect our very freedoms, and what defines us as American. Who cares?

Well, 29 year old Trey Walter Kindred cares. Last week, Trey hopped a bus from Virginia at 3:00 am, so that he could be a witness to the appeals case for Chris Hedges et al vs. Barack Obama NDAA hearing at the Federal Court of Appeals in New York City.

Trey is a concerned citizen. "I have been following the NDAA trial for the last year. I didn't know that I could attend the trial until I saw a page through the Occupy group on Facebook, inviting people to come and show solidarity. I didn't just want to be here. I feel like it is my duty to be here as an American."

Trey arrived at the court house early in order to get inside and a good position from which to bear witness to this historical trial. "I wanted to show my support for Chris Hedges in any way, shape or form. NDAA is a travesty for Civil Rights. Obama is betraying the People."

Similar to many people in Trey's age demographic, he and his friends voted for Barack Obama in 2008.

Trey said, "Obama ran on things like, denouncing George Bush for signing the Patriot Act, and holding prisoners in indefinite detention in Guantanamo Bay. But then Obama signed the Patriot Act himself
. He didn't free anyone from Guantanamo. He didnt stop the torturing. What he did in fact do, was take the Patriot Act, pump it full of steroids and sign it into the bill called NDAA. He didnt write it, but he signed it. It isn't just Obama. He is part of a large, evil system; but because he takes part in that system, that makes him just as evil."

The attorney Carl Mayer, suing Obama on the grounds that this bill is unconstitutional, argues that the language in a bill is what defines the law. Section 1021 provides sweeping powers of detention through incredibly vague and undefined terms.

If a U.S. Citizen is arrested, he or she must be given his or her Miranda rights. NDAA speaks of "capturing" citizens, an undefined term, and overturns hundreds of years of domestic law. It permits the U.S. military to seize U.S. citizens, to hold them in military facilities including offshore penal colonies, until the end of hostilities, whenever that is, with no right to due process of any kind. Never has the U.S. military had the authority to arrest a U.S. citizen while civil law still exists, until NDAA.

Trey said, "I learned that I could go to the hearing through the Occupy Movement. I'm not on the street screaming about injustices, but I consider myself to be part of Occupy. All Americans are. This is the only way things are going to change for US.

I thought our country was going through tough financial times. How is it even financially responsible to enforce NDAA all over the world, as the U.S. seems to become self imposed international law by these kinds of actions? The NDAA is a travesty to all humanity on the planet. Now we really are the World Police."

Conservatives, Liberals and Progressives alike should stand in outrage against the autocracy established in this bill. What happens in the outcome of this appeals case matters not only in current politics and law, but matters as a stepping stone to future infringement of our liberties in the U.S.. There is a huge force of anti privacy laws being passed now. Will we be Americans like Trey Walter Kindred, and stand up for our individual freedoms and fight for our Constitution? Or will we sit silently, out of fear or lack of attention to these issues, and allow our silence to be the consent of our undoing?


Open Letter to all you ultra-liberal wimps whining about Dorner being torched.

Who do you think you are? How dare you actually CARE about
this quaint notion of "laws".

That is SO yesterday. WHERE did you guys come from anyway? Are
you time-travelers from the last century? This isn't the Andy Griffith
Show anymore, not even Columbo. Now we just cut to the chase ..
boom! POOF! <--like that.

Get real people. Man-up for Christ sake.

Laws, Shmaws. Who needs 'em.. NOW we got paid killers with badges
& guns transparently enforcing a corporate agenda, we got drones, we
got NDAA trump-cards nullifying our "outdated" Constitution, Congress
is confirming one of corporate America's favorite Thugs to run the CIA,
we got tax-funded domestic Armies of well-seasoned SWAT teams (thanks
to the War on Drugs), we got 100% saturation surveillance, etc. Now we
got EVERYTHING we need, to just cut to the chase and murder "them".

Please understand, this is so much more practical. And not only that,
it's also so much cheaper to just torch or gun down our Evil Doers, rather
than giving them "3 hots and a cot" in some spendy private prison for the rest
of their sorry-ass lives.

Besides, dead lips are zipped lips. It's so much more discrete all around
to take out our Evil Doers summarily, along with their distorted version of events,
and just "get it over with". Their "wild stories" might even be taken seriously,
if known, and we don't want to encourage that kind of pandering.

Don't worry. You won't be next. If you've got nothing to hide, you'll be
just fine, just trust the corporate state, and all those untidy details will be ironed
out, out of sight (mostly - except when it's on the evening news),
out of mind. Well, unless we decide differently tomorrow.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

<-- Please note the sarcasm smilie is "on"
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