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So, those preferring a diplomatic soution were wrong when they wanted it

AND wrong when Obama wanted it?

So... first the "position" is "bomb Syria"... the opposing position is "no....

....there needs to be a diplomatic solution...."

Then there IS a diplomatic solution...

And the same people who were originally supporting the bombing point at those who preferred the diplomatic solution and accuse them of not admitting that they were in the wrong.

That's actually very strange behaviour, isn't it?

There's never been an American president that didn't fuck some stuff up.

Sorry. It's just true.

So why weren't you all saying "Russia should take responsibility" two days ago?

Why were you all saying: "waaaaaah, we need to bomb Syria?"

Do you understand that your position changes with the wind? That it's blatantly tarnsparent that your position changes with the wind? That you don't really HAVE a position?

That you can't be trusted any more than he can?

That you know he can't be trusted, and neither can you? Which is why you have colossal "trust" thing in every single one of your silly "Won't somebody please think of the president" posts?

So... no troops, no war. Can someone tell me what the London Blitz was?

I'd really like to know what the right word for it is because she grew up in it in a bomb shelter and she's always called it war, but obviously she's wrong and I'd like to point this out to her and tell her to use the appropriate terminology.


What a sickly, neurotic game this all is.

All image and flummery.


It's IDIOTIC. The United States has a military presence that utterly dwarfs that of any other nation and they want CREDIBILITY.

Launching missiles at tiny nations isn't going to make you look big and tough. It's going to make you look like someone who wants to look big and tough. In particular it is very VERY much going to make you look like someone who wants to look big and tough when you can't keep your mouth shut for long enough to avoid SAYING that you're doing it because you want to look big and tough.

Blair the Enabler speaks.


So there you go. Make of that what you will.

It's not just Syria that doesn't have a solution. Warfare itself doesn't have a solution.

Only a cursory look at history will reveal this. WWII was a fluke.

It's clear that the Iraq debacle had no particular goal other than the acquisition of other people's property - i.e. oil. Apparently there's a pipeline problem in Syria. No other goal is apparent other than nebulous "message sending" or other such idiocy.

The only "solution" to this "problem" is very simple - destroy anyone with the power to wage war of any kind.

Not a very nice idea, is it?

All the garbage being spouted about bullies and school playgrounds and so on are distortions of reality. They are the narratives necessary for the US to feel good about itself. They bear no relation to reality. They are earnestly felt, but they have no meaning beyond the desire for such emotional patterns to be true to valiate action. The action itself is ultimately purposeless.

Have you noticed that the arguments keep shifting? First we must bomb for this reason... then that.... then another.... then a different one...

As a gay man, I recognise this phenomenon. It's exactly the same thing that happens when I try to get fundamentalist Christians to explain to me what their actual beef with me really is. First it's because I don't make kids... exept that's dumb because loads of people don't, sometimes they can't... then it's because the Bible says so... except it doesn't particularly (nobody is at all clear onewhat the sin of Sodom actually was...)... then it's because I've been abused as a child, apparently... then it's because I'm seeking attention.... on and on and on and on...

There's nothing to it. There's no reason. It's just a feeling, nothing more. Do you see that their arguments are all these big, simple twists, riffs on emotional processes? None of them have anything to do with me. It's all about THEM. They are simply disturbed and thrashing about hopelessly.

And none of the arguments coming out about bombing Syria have anything to do with Syria. It's about the US and it's identity.

War isn't a "problem". It's a process that starts.... and then stops. It's an emotional disturbance on a colossal scale, nothing more.

Emotions aren't amenable to "solutions".


Your gut's for DIGESTING THINGS, you conservative loons, not making decisions! God gave you a different organ for that purpose!

Mysterious non-sequitur rant over.

Empires... thanks Eddie

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