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An inborn yearning for love and wholeness.

In my experience, watching a heartwarming video
brings up the tears that occasionally sit on top of
my heart like a lead weight.

I think the lonelier a person has been from earliest
childhood and onward may be related to how one is
affected. It's not in our nature to be lonely or even
alone. But we live in terribly lonely times.

The yearning sits there, in the human heart. An ache.
Heartwarming videos cause us to feel our own heart,
the love and longing therein. Or sometimes sadness
and emptiness there.

There's the longing to be free; and for many there
is a load of sorrow and doubt sitting heavily upon
their hearts, suffocating the hope. Then you see a
video like this and it gets into your heart, and hope
gets stirred up again. Tears come up, maybe, and
and so does gratitude, disbelief, relief, sorrow,
gladness. Often all at once. Sometimes just a tiny
bit, and sometimes the dam breaks.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Fri Sep 12, 2014, 12:38 AM (2 replies)

Again, the problem posed in my previous post. The riddle of multiple realities.

Multiple so-called realities, at odds with one another.

Is it possible that your perspective is subjective, rather
than universally true?

I don't see him, the man himself, his time in office,
his efforts and successes while there, the same way as
you do.

I am not claiming to be right. I am firm in trusting my
perceptions, generally, but I've been wrong. If time
proves me wrong I have no problem with that.

You are unhappy about Obama, he hasn't even tried, you
say; he has deserted his supporters, you say; he has
broken his promises. This is a sad perspective and I
do not share it. But I also don't want to argue with it
as you're entitled to your own opinion. I don't know
what you mean by "...why are you blaming us?"

I think this president is a great man, and I rarely say
that of anyone. I am sad he has had such a shitty
congress, and so many obstructions to what he himself
hoped to do in office.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:48 PM (0 replies)

His integrity.

His intelligence, his thoughtfulness; his warmth and sense of
humor. His sincerety and relentless efforts in the face of
unprecedented obstruction.

Oh not just obstruction. Cruel, nasty people, going on
television, forming committees, so much ugliness, so many

Have you noticed they can't work with him? Do you know why?

It's the same reason that Chuck Todd was reduced to
a pathetic little man in the course of ten minutes of that

It's because the president is an honest man, a brilliant man,
with a clear conscience, and dignity unmatched by anyone
I've ever seen in that office.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 10, 2014, 08:57 PM (0 replies)

Riddle me this:

If the president had campaigned honestly in 2008, many people wouldn't feel abandoned.

Many people see no dishonesty in this man. None of them
feel disappointed in him, or abandoned. I'm one of them,
I think there are many others here on DU. How is this
possible? Do you think your point of view is objective?

Do you think this is a healthy approach to politics, and
life in general -- ie, for people who consider themselves
activists -- pinning hope on somebody else fixing their
life for them?

People complain so much, but don't even try to find
workable solutions.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 10, 2014, 08:48 PM (1 replies)

I think many of us would love this whole nation to go much farther to the left

if it meant that a big majority of the people would follow
happily in that direction.

Growing up through the sixties & seventies, my perspective
is that when you pull hard to the left, too fast, there's an
equal and opposite effect; I'm sure it has something to
do with physics; it gives fuel to the opposing powers;
misunderstanding and rancor flourish; the center can not hold.

Many good honest and well-meaning people still associate the
"left" with the bomb-building activists and tripping hippies of
the sixties (I was one), the dissing of American soldiers who
had gone to Vietnam, vilification of the military in general, I
did that, I moved to Canada, I said fuck you to my parents'
values and their world, with absolutely no love or respect for
them, or what they'd been through. I'm pretty sure I wasn't
an exception; and there were wounds on both sides that
still haven't healed.

There was a vast ocean of misunderstanding between generations
and cultures. The South was vilified, maybe rightfully politically, but
socially it was so wrong, it turned a whole culture conservative, is
(ONLY) my opinion.

Obama's point of view, I am very sure (because he's said it outright),
is that we are all American citizens, we all deserve a voice and for
our point of view to be heard, for there to be healthy debate between
cultures and political rivals. He seeks stability and balance, wisdom
and progress. He has a hopeful view of humanity. He is working as
hard as he can. How do you think any one of us would be doing in his

If the far left is disappointed, then what do you think would
please them? and how will you help make that happen?
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 10, 2014, 08:40 PM (0 replies)

I am fine with your suggestion, if it were to turn out that way, and not incarceration.

Better even that the punishment should fit the crime, ie
the perpetrators have to undergo what they made the
victim undergo, in addition to community service.

Except tenfold. Ten buckets on each of their heads of
the foulest sewage available. Public humiliation of some
kind, such that their crime is visible to all. I agree
that a stern talking to or wag of the finger is pointless.

But how do you make someone understand what they
have done? Such that they truly understand, and feel
authentic regret?

Punishment rarely is effective in that regard. It just makes
people better at hiding their crimes. Liars become better
liars. The potential for rehabilitation has to compete with
the natural urge to retaliate against the one who punishes,
or authority in general.

The punished don't usually learn how it feels to be their
victim. That's what's needed, for them to know how it
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:42 PM (0 replies)

People made a big mistake with their expectations.

So many people I've talked to express bitterness and cynicism
about hope and change the slogan.

People for some reason thought it was Obama who was going
to provide the hope and the change. Well that ain't how it
works, folks.

The hope is there, innate in all of us. And we are the ones
who have to make the changes. Obama never said he could
or would do it for us. Yet people are disappointed. Well,
disappointment is the guaranteed product of unrealistic
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 10, 2014, 02:06 PM (4 replies)

How I processed it, is that every human being was once an innocent young child.

Through circumstances and/or choices people lose touch with
that innocence in themselves. But it remains, at the core of
every living person. Kittens will trigger that feeling in anyone.

And I would think that, living a life of such darkness and
madness, even by choice -- a person would still have a profound
hunger for just a speck of innocence and love.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Sep 2, 2014, 03:58 PM (0 replies)

this is so wonderful.

Flash mobs always choke me up, in a good way.
There is so much joy inside of people. Always
waiting for a chance to come out, to push through
the sadness and anger that sits on top of it, hides
and smothers it.

Human beings. Dancing, breathing! We were born
for joy, I am sure.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Mon Sep 1, 2014, 12:20 PM (1 replies)

Misogyny, racism, homophobia all have the same root.

I think it's essential to understand this if we want to
progress as a humanity.

What is that root? It is ignorance.
All hate springs from ignorance,
compounded by misinformation.

I have the impression that people think it should not be the
responsibility of minorities to educate racists; or feminists
to educate misogynists; or gay men and women to educate
homophobes; is this a correct impression?

In my experience,
the only thing
that can remove ignorance
is knowledge.

Once in a blue moon anger will get through; every so often
a battle is won by force, and necessarily so. But the real work,
lasting long term, is education. Help people turn on the lights,
so they can see for themselves.

The ones already educated -- who understand
issues deeply thoroughly and personally -- are
in my opinion the only ones qualified to educate
others about these issues.

Without being issue-specific, I have often felt this way:

Help me!! Help me to understand! I do not WANT to be XYZ, I can not see myself, HELP ME understand
what you see, and how I/we can move past it.

Sadly too often the response has been unfriendly and disheartening, like Fuck you if you don't already

Two teachers, one classroom of students.
One teacher resorts to anger, shaming, insults;
the other uses kindness, humor, tolerance,
forgiveness, an occasional ROAR when needed.

Love is powerful. So is Humility.

Kindness is SUPER-powerful; it
can totally disarm assholes, who
generally are stumped for a response.

Listening & Understanding are Superpowers.
They allow you to see into the other person, and
to find loopholes, weak spots in their ignorance.

Forgiveness is also a superpower which, when used
appropriately and at the right times, can help
prevent illnesses brought on by anger, stress.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:12 PM (0 replies)
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