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or you might look at it this way: give Bernie and supporters the benefit of the doubt.

Have a little respect and humility toward those of us who don't believe he has lost.
Even better, listen to him. He has not yet lost.

Try to understand why we'll continue until the very end (more reasons than one.) -- instead of denigrating -- try to understand.

Be patient! Don't demand, or expect, Bernie supporters to stop our efforts.

Instead ask yourself: what is this thing profoundly inspiring so many people young and old, what is this passion about?" instead of dismissing Bernie, his peeps, his vision as most H fans do.. try to understand what it is. Call it research. Ask your heart.

Addionally, you can scoff -- but Hillary is in legal trouble. Pundits are uneasy. Not everyone has voted. We are still trying to sway voters and superdelegates, media and public opinion.. this is the reason there are still unfavorable articles about her being posted. You see it as pointless bashing; it's not. The more people learn, the closer the hot breath of the law gets, all bets are off. Hillary fans need to stop insisting she has won, whether you believe it or not, and stop insisting we accept your view. Give it a rest till summer's end, forget we even exist out here.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:54 AM (1 replies)

I am only in favor of parties if they are fun. Parties that are not fun are a waste of life.

Let us create a brand new progressive and fun Party,
for anyone who likes fun & kindness more than fear & loathing.


Posted by Voice for Peace | Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:30 AM (1 replies)

OR we might have trolls posing as paid operatives but pretending to be Bernie supporters who are being

paid by Trump to trick democrats into contesting the convention in order to pressure the superdelegates to hire bodyguards and vote for somebody or other, that would be too crazy tho
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:49 AM (0 replies)

it's looking deadly certain that Trump's plan in his first 90 days is to dismantle the

Checks & Balances system, possibly delete the Senate altogether except
for a few people he decides to keep. The ones who love him.

He'll then be able to proceed unconstrained to launch a nuclear war,
destroy the world economy, have all dark skinned people except beautiful
women killed, have all unnattrative people resettled in Siberia; claim all
the national parks for himself and build mansions with golf courses on
all of them for private residences. He'll make the Chinese pay for it.
And he's going to fire the little guy in North Korea, take away his rockets.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:09 AM (1 replies)

Therefore, should we be blind to hillary's reckless careless judgement because trump?

we be good mindless robots
Posted by Voice for Peace | Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:56 AM (1 replies)

the establishment is trickly-down, makes many feel a little safer so they let its

rules and ways into their brains,
and so accept it as good, safe & sensible;
in time coming to believe it's one's own, one's
own true convictions;

on it trickles trickles a little bit here into the school system,
a little bit there into the whole foods,
a little bit here into the newpapers, a little bit into tv,
a little more, a little trickle, trickle trickle nearly everywhere
and so familar now it feels like home to some
accepting comfortably their assigned boxes
(sensible, for keeping things tidy).

many like to make their own comfy boxes,
so as to be a good contributing citizen, and allow the
trickle to carry on, and
(it especially loves to snack on fear,
and can generate it when it needs a snack)

It trickles here and there through every system in every
town trickles into us and through our brains,
an invisible river of dust leaves things just a bit more dull

Till it trickles up to an honest and fearless person
but has to find another way around, it can't go through.

The story is: there never was an honest fearless person,
that never really happened.
Not wanting to waste resources, we think about this as
little as possible, and conclude it's likely true. There never
was that person.
This is comforting to know, and more than a little boring!

Posted by Voice for Peace | Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:00 AM (0 replies)

well apparently they haven't heard it's over! Hell, it's been over since 2011! Stick them ALL under

a bus.

The new superdelegates trickling in are most certainly not following the
election very closely! or they just can't do math!!

NOT.SMART. not going to be any place on earth they'll be able to hide from
the consequences of their betrayal.. lack of forethought, to be kind, but
approaching treason. Dumb!

But most of all, what arrogant gall! to recklessly waste perfectly good
superdelegateness on a lost cause!!!

Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:35 PM (0 replies)

I guess you know that's merely a subjective opinion, even if lots of people find it bewildering

I know progressives who are really really smart and on that account they will never vote for a Clinton.

I also know Republicans who are really really smart and " " " " " " " " " "

We often only think people are smart if they agree with our current best assessments.

But a TRULY really smart person knows how to look and consider what other people see.
How else to make progress -- blind?

in order to expand one's understanding, and weigh all the factors, not just the loudest or most popular. The smartest people I know don't commit themselves to people or causes without looking far ahead, and close up, and long term, and between the lines, and then make choices according to their own Conscience -- an inviolable, invaluable advisor.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:09 PM (0 replies)

I imagine him blathering wildly for 4 years while the rest of the govt focuses on keeping him happy

Busting their balls so Trump will like them, not make fun of them,
while at the same time trying to keep the 3-branch-function functional.
But not changing much for the little people.

Hillary, I think, would change her email security setup, but I don't feel
confident much else, at least not for the good of the little people.
Clinton Foundation likely to thrive, though, and probably a few questionable
leaders of oil rich nations will appear to become increasingly dangerous,
so under HRC the MIC will need lots and lots of money bombs planes jets
and clusterbombs in order to kill them and wreck the country then once
that's done the CLinton Foundation will need lots and lots of money for
humanitarian aid to the wartorn land.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:58 PM (0 replies)

I thought it was for people who believe unshakeably in democracy and democratic values

and the "Underground" part is because those who stay informed and
active are VERY OFTEN not in the Democratic Party mainstream and
are the ones who will keep pushing for progress.

An underground based on "settling" for an undesirable candidate isn't
doing much. The underground in the Civil War wasn't about how to
compromise with the slaveowners.

the underground in WW2 wasn't about finding a practical way to work
with the Hitler administration.

I thought Democratic Underground would be a place for actual progress
so I'm a little disappointed to put it mildly, that Skinner is so ready
to back someone under FBI investigation. Not pragmatic at all.

Maybe "Democratic Towtheline" would be a better name for
the site?
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:38 PM (1 replies)
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