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it's tricky to find the boundaries, when we are shedding our skin cells all day long

and manufacturing new ones from the inside out.

My point of view is that everything in the perceivable universe
is in a constant state of change -- either evolution or disintegration,
but never fixed, never absolute.

Science is challenged to prove the existence of what is not fixed,
and constantly changing. Science can prove things now that were
not provable in recent past. The future will be similar.

Einstein purportedly said the subatomic particles appeared playful.
There is a force in life, behind all life, making everything come
into existence, animating, breathing everything. It isn't measurable
by science.

Religion is blind, science is limited. Truth is where they meet.
The connection between the mortal and the immortal.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Sep 18, 2012, 06:44 PM (1 replies)

this is the face of a man who has lost touch with his conscience

Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Sep 13, 2012, 12:58 PM (24 replies)

one difference, I think, is this:

Fundamentalist Christians seek to take over the US government.
For now, this is mostly understood and spoken about privately,
not shouted in the hallways of Congress.

Laws protecting human rights would be changed by such a
government, Armageddon welcomed and helped along. A different
kind of terrorism.. more slow moving but more insidious,
harder to identify, harder to fight. The country would be steered
toward fundamentalist Christian-based laws and way of life,
as we moved closer and closer to the expected end times.

Fundamentalist Islamists blow stuff up outright, shouting the
name of their god and their savior. Usually predictable and fairly
easy to anticipate and prevent, if the government is doing its job.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:07 PM (0 replies)

You can't compare the two because of context, timing, intention, and especially recent history.

The filmmaker has an agenda which appears to be inflammatory
and hateful, at a time when violent Islamic fundamentalism is a
huge deal in the world. I don't think the Monty Python gang had
a similar intention with their movie.

Many believed the Iraq war was a religious and righteous
war. There are plenty of anecdotes about this view from
Christians in the US military. I won't even try to provide links
to back this up but I think you can research if interested.
Killing for God, killing for Jesus, but legalized because there's
a "war"

I believe at times it is appropriate to provoke a festering illness,
cause it to expose itself, so as to cause the body large to purge
it. This happens in nature and in medicine. But it's hard for me
to justify it happening when it involves human beings who can
make choices.

Hatemongers incite other hatemongers, both for their own side,
and hatemongers among the hated. Hating the hate in each other
and not able to look beyond and see we are human beings.

Look at what has risen up on the far right since 2008. It's a horrible
thing that has emerged, and we've seen its hunger for power.

In the short term, it's a few small minded people with extreme
views and an agenda for war. I don't think this is really about Islam
the religion, and certainly not Muslims in general.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:53 PM (1 replies)

update (unimportant, hardly worth reading)

the umbrella may be green after all.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:14 PM (0 replies)

I believe this person ought to speak

Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:45 PM (3 replies)

What's Hell Like for Mormons? (Slate)


In his convention speech last night, Mitt Romney joked that he didn’t ask his church to invest in Bain Capital because he didn’t want to go to hell if the company failed. But did he mean the “telestial kingdom” or the “outer darkness”? Earlier this year, Forrest Wickman explored the different levels of Mormon heaven and hell, as well the theological principles behind them. His original article is printed below.

Asked for the first thing he would do as president if informed of Fidel Castro’s death, Mitt Romney said that he would "thank heavens that Fidel Castro has returned to his maker and will be sent to another land." What are Mormon heaven and hell like?

There are three heavens and one hell. The three heavens are ranked from most holy to least by their “degrees of glory." The celestial kingdom is the most desirable, and serves as the destination for all those who accept Jesus, are baptized within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (whether before or after death), and remain faithful throughout their lives. People who die before the age of 8, when Mormons are baptized, also go to the celestial kingdom. The next most desirable heaven is called the terrestrial kingdom, which holds all those who don’t fully accept Jesus on Earth, but who are basically good people and accept him after death. The telestial kingdom is for those who never truly accept Jesus, and includes murderers, as well as “liars, and sorcerers, and adulterers, and whoremongers, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.” These unbelievers must first suffer for their sins, but eventually end up in a blissful place “surpassing the great understanding of men.”

If you don't get into the one of the three heavens, you're consigned in death to a place called “outer darkness.” This is reserved only for those who have God revealed to them and then deny Him anyway. While the residents of the telestial kingdom are thought to be “as innumerable as the stars in the firmament of heaven, or as the sand upon the seashore,” few are bound for outer darkness. These include Cain, Satan, and anyone who joined up with the devil before the creation of the Earth. LDS founder Joseph Smith is supposed to have compared this unpardonable sin to “say that the sun does not shine while he sees it.” more at link
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:16 AM (4 replies)

TAXY TOONS redux... please help gather them all in one place


(Thanks and credit to the creators whose name(s) I don't know.
I've probably overlooked some, so please add to the trove
and/or make some more. They would zoom around Facebook
faster than a lightning strike.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:28 PM (7 replies)

we live in a wondrous age, that such a goon has been hailed.

dearest all mighty dog
teach us how to be like you
with your unchanging compassion
and loyalty, your patient
ability to recognize bad people
and all knowing when to bite them.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Aug 28, 2012, 10:57 AM (0 replies)

I think they are trying a Sarah Palin campaign strategy.

Sarah Version:

Obama says something about people clinging to guns and religion.

Sarah says: Damn Tootin we do!
We love our guns and our Jesus and we're proud of it!
Media & Base Go Wild.

Mitt Version:

Obama says something about the wealthy paying fair share,
not hiding money overseas.

Mitt says "Damn Tootin I'm RICH and hide my money overseas
and it's legal and that's why you can trust me!!"
Media & Base: ?
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:27 PM (0 replies)
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