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I'm not an expert except with this one particular cat.

If both of you can be consistent and committed to
helping the cat, I think it's great. Having just one
person be in charge is good too. You guys will figure
it out.

Just be consistent in how you both respond to him.

My guy is still a little jekyll & hyde -- so I am always
careful if I sense he's grouchy. Like the change in
his meow you hear -- sometimes it's just a look or
tail twitching that tells me it's not a great time to
initiate anything.

However no matter the timing, and no matter what
his personality of the moment may be, I always responded
the same way if he scratched or bit. Even if it was
"my own fault" for trying to pet a cranky cat. NOT OK
EVER> he knows this now. He's a lovebaby now. with
an occasional relapse.

I go out of my way when he is NOT in attack
mode to pick him up and hold him and give him
pretty much the same treatment. A lot of stimulation
of the somatosensory system.

If you start getting comfortable with this approach
and he's responding, I would even challenge his
threatening attitude if it comes up -- even without
the biting -- if he is growling at me or acting threating,
I'm like: you silly little bad baby boy and now I'm
going to smother you with love too bad for you
buster and I grab his scruff and do the whole
thing. It's not exactly a system, it's just as much
love as possible as often as possible, and never
accept hostility.

He will blow you off regularly but mark my words
he'll come back for more love.

Remember also their lives are kind of boring, in many
ways, and when there is some excitement -- like
having their authority challenged -- it gets their
adrenaline going, it gets their blood flowing, and
so in a peculiar way, it is often helpful and healthy
for them to be provoked a bit, as long as you follow
through.
My hands and arms are scarred from my first year
with this cat. it has been really rewarding to see
him soften up.




Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 18, 2013, 04:08 PM (0 replies)

I've been working for the past two years with an aggressive cat. The transformation is phenomenal.

The secret has been a lot of strong physical dominance
combined with VERY physical affection.. strong massage,
immobilizing him with one hand as a mother cat would
do, firmly massaging petting loving all over the body.

There's a biology behind why this works. I understand
only the gist. It has to do with the somatosensory
system.

The psychology of it is: he did not get the mothering
physical and emotional that would give him a sense that
the world is a safe place. He was born on high alert,
immediately stressed, and soon abandoned.

Without the mother nursing, and stimulating the body,
mammals' brains don't fully develop. They are highly
prone to depression, hostility, aggression, illness, etc.
It is hardly different for a cat than for a human, in
that sense.

I made it very clear with this cat that biting and
scratching me was a VERY BAD IDEA. As soon as it
would happen, or starts to happen, I grabbed him
by the scruff of the neck, and made it impossible
for him to do any further damage.

But then I held him close to my body and kept him
there, as long as it took for him to calm down and
(more or less) surrender.

When I am holding him (against his will) I massage
and pet him all over, especially around the face and
ears. I speak lovingly to him and explain in simple
terms that I am not his enemy.
I massage him and give him a ton of love.

Then I put him down firmly, and release him
with firm touch all the way to his tail. I don't
allow a hasty departure. Next time he is aggressive,
same thing. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

I never punished him and rarely scolded, though I have
screamed in pain (in the beginning, not any more)
& he got the message.

He has no choice in any of this. Since I am feeding
him I require his cooperation. He sees I am more
powerful than he is, and indispensible not only
because of food -- but he has learned there is a great
deal of pleasure and fun to be had, if he is on
my good side.

A loving but DOMINATING response to aggressiveness
works, has worked. He has become so affectionate,
and playful. He still slips once in a while, but he
always stops himself before he hurts me. It's a
knee jerk reaction from when he didn't have a
person and he had to always be on high alert.

Now he must submit to me. I am his momma cat
and his person... I don't take no shit. I love him to
pieces.

Whenever there is a difficult creature of any kind,
human or not, my first assumption is this: they
need more love. More holding. More patience.
So many damaged creatures on the earth at this
time.

good luck!!! don't give up!!
It's a project and a commitment but inside every
mean aggressive cat is a little kitten who only wants
his momma, and to have fun.

My advice is either you or wife take charge of this cat
and don't let up. Be proactive about it. Seek the cat out
for interaction. Every time he responds aggressively
do the love thing. Hold him a lot. Massage him
firmly a lot. Be his, but seriously be the boss. Scruff of the neck
is a wonderful secret. Not only for holding and
immobilizing, but deep gentle rhymic massage in that
area. An aggressive cat is afraid. Make him feel safe.
Pleasurable physical stimulation all over his body
is key. It has long-term effect, not just immediate.

Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Sep 18, 2013, 02:43 PM (1 replies)

Are we the only internet or are there other internets out there?



Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Sep 17, 2013, 06:28 PM (40 replies)

Derek - Ricky Gervais

Ricky Gervais' new show on Netflix.. I love it.
Heartwarming & more.

Not especially well reviewed but I recommend it.

"Set in a financially struggling old folks home, "Derek" is an ode to those whose lives are given over to others and an unapologetic treatise on the importance of being kind. "
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:28 PM (4 replies)

please to pet me now.... hey. like this.. hey. hey pet me, like this. hey. (for cat lovers)

http://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7732814848/h1AEA1C0D/

don't know how to make the gif show up here..
Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:31 PM (8 replies)

How did Cantor and Ryan become millionaires?

They don't seem like hardworking Americans to me.

Article Headline:

Millionaires Eric Cantor and Paul Ryan Plan To Cut Off Food for 4 Million Americans

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/08/09/millionaires-eric-cantor-paul-ryan-plan-cut-food-4-million-americans.html?utm_content=buffera6004&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

Shortly before Congress adjourned for its August recess, House Republican leaders disclosed that they plan to move a bill in early September that doubles ó to $40 billion over ten years ó their proposed cuts to SNAP (the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly food stamps) and immediately cuts 2-4 million more low-income individuals from the program. The new cuts come primarily from eliminating waivers that states can use, during periods of high unemployment, to ease the severity of a harsh rule that limits SNAP to three months of benefits out of every three years for people aged 18 to 50 who arenít raising minor children and are unemployed, regardless of how hard they are looking for work.

Under the new House Republican proposal, if such individuals canít find at least a half-time job, they will summarily be thrown off the program after three months ó irrespective of how high local unemployment is. The individuals in question are among the poorest people in the United States. SNAP program data show their average income is just 22 percent of the poverty line, about $2,500 a year for a single individual. For most of them, SNAP is the only state or federal income assistance available. On average they will receive about $160 a month in SNAP benefits in fiscal year 2014.

The individuals at risk of losing basic food assistance are a diverse group. More than 40 percent are women. One-third are over age 40. Among those who report their race, about half are white, a third are African American, and a tenth are Hispanic. Half have a high school diploma or GED, and another fifth have some college education. They live in all areas of the country, and among those for whom metropolitan status is available, about 40 percent live in urban areas, 40 percent in suburban areas, and 20 percent in rural areas.

As a result of the proposed cuts, many of these individuals would fall deeper into destitution. Some would likely experience hunger as well as homelessness; money spent on food isnít available to pay the rent, and with income this low, it can be very difficult to do both.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:54 PM (8 replies)

Beverly Hills Marijuana Moms Club on 20/20



warning: Elizabeth Vargas looking disturbed
Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:19 PM (2 replies)

Everybody has a conscience.

Some people learn to pay attention to it,
and it becomes their guide.

It is the communication link between our heart
and our brain.

It informs us, via feeling, about right and
wrong. Very young children can grasp it.

Some people learn/ are taught to ignore it.
ie, to ignore the information coming to
us from our own feeling self.
They
trust the experts and authorities more
than their own feeling selves. If they
wound someone, they have learned
not to feel it.

But a healthy creature can feel the pain
they inflict on another creature.

"Unbidden shall it call in the night"

One way or another, one day, GZ will have
to face his crimes, and feel the sorrow
fear and pain he has caused. He will have
to feel all of it, and he will have to face
his lies as well. He will have to face himself.

All of us do. I absolutely believe this is a law
of Nature.

Is not remorse the justice which is administered
by that very law which you would fain serve?

Yet you cannot lay remorse upon the innocent
nor lift it from the heart of the guilty.

Unbidden shall it call in the night, that men may
wake and gaze upon themselves.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sun Jul 14, 2013, 02:49 AM (0 replies)

Zimmerman Trial - waiting for a verdict, here are jury instructions:

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf



If you find Trayvon Martin was killed by George Zimmerman, you will then consider the
circumstances surrounding the killing in deciding if the killing was Murder in the Second
Degree or was Manslaughter, or whether the killing was excusable or resulted from justifiable
use of deadly force.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:20 PM (0 replies)

and from your point of view, how do you explain

the silence that follows the shot; the
absence of hoarseness in Zimmerman's voice?

My speculative opinion is that both
of their voices might be on that tape.

If Zimmerman attempted to detain Martin
in any way, and Martin responded aggressively,
maybe Zimmerman panicked when it became
a physical fight, it suddenly got real, and he
is a big chicken, so he started yelling for help.

He somehow got his gun. Or he already had
his hand on it, which is what I believe, from the
moment he left his car.

This is only my imaginative speculation and
I wasn't there nor am I on the jury. I
know you know that already.

Trayvon started screaming for his life, and
silence.

Because to me, it sounded like there were
two different types of yelling on that tape.

I consider Zimmerman depraved.
He could have pled involuntary manslaughter
right at the start, taken some responsibility
or showed some remorse. Might not
even have done jail time.

Instead he lied and lied, and his team of
experts and lawyers distorted the story until
Trayvon was on trial instead of him.

Instead he concocted a fabulous tale which is simply
unsupported both by forensics and many of the
witnesses. He is a fool.

That's why in my own mind it went from being
manslaughter to second degree. The post-
event activities & statements attest to ill
original intent.
My opinion only.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:40 PM (0 replies)
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