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My explanation is visceral. I don't hate her.

But I hate dishonesty and particularly the slimy distortions she, Bill, her campaign & surrogates employ to advance their ambition.

It puzzles me, when such dishonesty is used as a tool on a regular basis -- ESPECIALLY when used to manipulate primary voters -- why anyone thinks we can believe her, trust her character or judgement. Or Bill's -- he'd be there too. No thanks.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Feb 11, 2016, 06:16 PM (1 replies)

It's sloppy for Obama to allow people to give his endorsement, if it's

even true, second-hand to voters.
Thr preslident did not give that impression to Bernie when they met.
Obama, do you endorse this claim?
Posted by Voice for Peace | Thu Feb 11, 2016, 05:31 AM (0 replies)

Bernie has more confidence in ge voters than most people do.

I think this is because of how carefully he made his decision to run.

As I recall, he went to all sorts of places and listened to people, including in strongly conservative areas.

And when he became confident his message would resonate widely enough for him to win, he jumped all in.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Feb 10, 2016, 02:08 AM (0 replies)

Oh my how people project faults onto an honest man.

It is the Weird Mrror Phenomenon.
Listen how, in detractors' efforts to vilify Bernie, they invariably give us a good description of themselves: character, values, even their secrets:, their dishonest tactics, all of it.
Like Bill trying to paint Bernie as less-than-respectful toward women.

Listen to what's said about him in coming weeks. Incredibly revealing.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Wed Feb 10, 2016, 01:56 AM (0 replies)

You look at independents and see ignorant suckers

and your perspective is valid from where you sit.

Likewise, others have valid pov's of their own.

Many people describe another's pov, and call it their own. It's usually not.
Few think for themselves, or challenge their own beliefs.

Many see Clintons as part of this nation's problem. They (and I) are ignorant of your particular pov.
We just don't see what you see in her.

As for me I see an honest man whose adversary is not the dnc, nor hilary, nor the republicans, but Corruption itself. I can not in good conscience vote for a dishonest person.

Corruption permeates Hilary's campaign.You don't see it. not your fault.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Tue Feb 9, 2016, 09:03 PM (0 replies)

Masterful projection ... I would laugh

But I'm too nauseated by this jerk.

He has unwittingly and eloquently revealed his and Hilary's own values.

Give me an honest man (any gender) any day.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:29 PM (0 replies)

Thete's something about smart motivated inspired committed compassionate people

male or female young or old so attractive that people fall (or rise) in love. And work together for peace and justice.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:47 PM (0 replies)

First of all, he's one of the best liked members of Congress.

On an interpersonal level and a teamwork level. People actually trust him. Known for being reasonable and consistent, if a bit eccentric.

But most there disagree with his politics.
And it scares many of them, for many reasons.

Do you believe that those who ARE corrupt need to go?
(To jail)
Bernie isn't trying to make friends.
How about the jolly.neocons and their gleeful torture fetish?

They all know he's an honest man. The rich & corrupt are the ones fighting him hardest, trying to brainwash and scare people.

You don't see this? It appears as an enormous elephant in the room. Even dressed in a donkey costume, it's hard to miss.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:36 PM (1 replies)

Those are mightily misinformed claims



✨Shame, shame on the abandonment of honesty.

It's highly creepy to me that Hilary affects people this way, as I perceive.

Do you not see the dishonesty drip-drip dripping out of her campaign, from all directions?

Or you don't mind it, bc everybody lies in politics?

I don't see her moral compass, nor a woman who knows what she believes. Too many disconnects.

The creative distortion of truth has been a longtime practice for both Clintons. They're good at it.
Posted by Voice for Peace | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:12 PM (0 replies)

It's a marvel what gets projected onto an honest man.

Truly.
He would have run as an independent. You may be sure, as he was, that this would severely handicap the democratic nominee in the general, likely leading to election of a Republican president. He chose not to do that.

People are compelled to assign all manner of deviant motives to explain him. What's being profoundly overlooked is the power of decency.

The importance and appeal of honesty.
How rare and beautiful it is in these times!
Posted by Voice for Peace | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 06:33 PM (0 replies)
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