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So which ones are the "NRA trolls"? Put up or shut up.

We've had to listen to your bigotry and half-baked conspiracy theories for a while now.

Name these alleged "NRA trolls", provide some *actual evidence* beyond 'they don't agree with me', or take your McCarthyite bullshit somewhere else
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:46 AM (1 replies)

What The Left Won't Tell You About The Boom In U.S. Gun Sales

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2012/08/23/what-the-left-wont-tell-you-about-the-boom-in-u-s-gun-sales/

note: Yeah, I know it's Forbes and there's a lot of lib-bashing in this- but apparently they are now an Approved Source here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117259858


What The Left Won't Tell You About The Boom In U.S. Gun Sales


As gun sales surged in early 2009 the going joke among employees of gun manufacturers was that President Barack Obama was the “greatest gun salesman of all time.” The trouble with this backhanded complement, however, is Left-leaning news outlets have since used it to avoid something that really scares them.

As ABC put it, Americans are buying more Glocks and Berettas simply because they fear “a second Obama administration might restrict gun ownership.” Their reporting conveniently stops right there.

...But the thing is, the surge is gun sales didn’t begin in 2008. Over the last 10 years (from 2002 to 2011) there has been a 54.1 percent rise in the number of NICS checks and the increase hasn’t all taken place since 2008. In 2005 there were 8,952,945 NICS checks. In 2006 the number topped 10 million. In 2007 NICS checks pushed passed 11 million. In 2008 NICS checks passed 12 million, and then hit the 14 million mark in 2009. They increased slightly (4 percent) through 2011...

...Other Gallup polls are even more interesting. The number of women gun owners in America has gone up from 13 percent in 2005 to 23 percent today. Also, the number of Democratic households with firearms in their homes skyrocketed from 30 percent in 2009 to 40 percent today...





Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sat Aug 25, 2012, 04:50 PM (60 replies)

Point is, your "traditional" guns function EXACTLY the same way as the ones I posted.

http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/bolt-action-model-700.aspx


http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=3


Hunting every day beats the alternatives.
Every single last blessed one of them.

Mossberg's 500® pump-action shotguns offer an amazing amount of gun for an unbeatable price. The variety of stock, barrel and finish options alone would assure the place of the 500® in the hearts of outdoorsmen. But, of course, its performance in the field goes a long way in cementing its reputation with millions of hunters as well.

First and foremost, the 500® is built to the same uncompromising mil-specs as the renowned Mossberg® 590®. Then a host of features are introduced - Quiet Carry™ dual-action bars, 3" chambers and aambidextrous safety, to name a few. Some models also include factory-ported barrels; the industry's first fully-rifled slug barrel and our Trophy Slugster™. A simple change of barrel and/or choke tubes is all that's required to take one shotgun from upland birds to waterfowl, to turkey, to deer.
Slugster® Big-Game Models

To deliver the accuracy potential of modern sabot slugs, our 500® Slugster® models feature fully-rifled, ported barrels with a variety of sighting options that include an integral cantilever scope mount base, and light-gathering adjustable fiber optic and traditional Williams rifle sights.
Versatile Two-Barrel Combo Setsscope mount base, and light-gathering adjustable fiber optic and traditional Williams rifle sights.


The widest range of versatility comes from our broad selection of Mossberg® 500® Combos in 12 or 20 gauge. With its two-barrel combos, Mossberg® pioneered the idea that a shotgun can provide more than just one season of shooting and hunting enjoyment.

The 18-1/2" barreled home security shotgun becomes a hard-hitting bird gun when the 28" combo barrel is installed. For deer hunters, vent rib and fully-rifled slug barrel sets are an unbeatable value. Our patented Dual-Comb® combos add the advantage of quickly and easily changing stock dimensions between high comb for scope sighting and low comb for wingshooting. This year, we've expanded your choices to include 12- or 20-gauge Combos in Mossy Oak® New Break-Up® and a new .50 Cal. Muzzleloader/12-Gauge Slug set.


I realize you lot have been out of sorts since Jim Zumbo dumped you, but don't try and kid yourself (or us) that those 'nice' guns are in any way different than what the military uses, save for appearance.

And even appearance isn't counting for so much these days as a lot of hunters have learned to appreciate function over looks when it comes to details like stocks and finishes.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:30 PM (0 replies)

That's odd, we have nothing against your sniper rifles and combat shotguns:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M24_Sniper_Weapon_System

M24 Sniper Weapon System

The M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS) is the military and police version of the Remington 700 rifle, M24 being the model name assigned by the United States Army after adoption as their standard sniper rifle in 1988. The M24 is referred to as a "weapons system" because it consists of not only a rifle, but also a detachable telescopic sight and other accessories.




Marine of Charlie Co., 1st Bn., 6th Marines with Mossberg 590 Shotgun, December 2003



U.S. Marines assigned to the Seventh Fleet, Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team (FAST), Third Platoon, fam-fire the Mossberg M500 shotgun aboard USS Blue Ridge (LCC 19). The M500 is a magazine feed, manually operated pump action, smoothbore gun.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:58 PM (1 replies)

So you want to fight misuse and crime via prohibition of currently-legal items?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/02/17/oxycontin-warning-first-nations.html

Expect OxyContin health crisis, warns First Nations leader
Drug to be pulled off market at the end of February

Exactly six months later:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1243530--oxycontin-replaced-by-explosion-of-small-town-heroin-use

OxyContin replaced by explosion of small-town heroin use
Published on Friday August 17, 2012


Perhaps someone can explain why the same wouldn't happen with guns, were certain persons and groups to get their way...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:48 PM (9 replies)

I get the distinct impression that the NRA has become Orwell's "Brotherhood" for some people

IOW, every gun-control setback is their doing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brotherhood_%28Nineteen_Eighty-Four%29
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Aug 15, 2012, 05:35 PM (19 replies)

It was the very same poster, just the day before. Sure can't keep their stories straight, can they?

"NRA represents gun manufacturers — period"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117259144


Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sat Aug 11, 2012, 07:41 PM (0 replies)

More wise words from my 83 year old father.

This is a guy that had to work in a rail yard cleaning coal hopper cars at the age of 15 during World War 2 to help put food on the table. After serving in the Navy for six years, he used his GI Bill benefits to get a college education
(working nights while going to class during the day). He spoke against Joe McCarthy when and where it was decidedly 'uncool' to do so. It took a few years for me to appreciate him (but I wised up) and you can see why here.

Appreciate your elders, folks. They have perspective only time can provide.


I believe the Republican Party better hope they lose this election. If they win
this election, Mitt Romney will be a one-term president and the Republicans won't
have a hope taking the White House for at least 8 years.It will be almost as
disastrous them as was 1932. Then, they didn't see the White House for twenty
years.

Here's what I think will happen if the Republicans win in November. They will
cut income taxes, at least at the top. But they will raise other taxes and fees
paid by the general public. They will cut spending on such things as parks,
education and Cabinet Departments that regulate industry.They will repeal the
health care law. Cut back on any program that supports the public during layoffs
or any other catastrophe.

The results of all of the above will be more unemployment, more damage to the
environment and less disposable income for the general public. This feeds on
itself. The US is a consumer society. If the general consumer doesn't spend, the
economy tanks.

By 2016 the public will be almost in revolt; the middle class will be
devastated and the Republicans will be unable to understand this reaction.
They will have lost all credibility.

You might look for Hilary Clinton to be the first female president in 2017.

Love to you all. Dad
In the early Thirties, we were slowly climbing out of the deep, deep depression
we were in when congressional Republicans for cuts in the welfare programs. The
result was a retreat in the climb out of the Depression. Then it took the threat
of Germany and the beginning of WW II to get us out of it.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:42 AM (48 replies)

I've felt for *years* that the Northeast US would become more like the Northwest Coast

Not every area would have decreased rainfall in a GW world...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:26 PM (0 replies)
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