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NYPD to stop archiving names, addresses of stop-and-frisk targets

Source: New York Daily News

NYPD to stop archiving names, addresses of stop-and-frisk targets

By Rocco Parascandola and Dareh Gregorian / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 6:40 PM

The NYPD has agreed to stop keeping the names and addresses of people who've been targets of stop-and-frisks, a civil rights group announced Wednesday.

In a settlement with the New York Civil Liberties Union, the NYPD has agreed to remove all names and addresses from its stop and frisk database within the next 90 days.

"With this settlement, hundreds of thousands of black and Latino New Yorkers never convicted of any crime will no longer face the threat of being the target of a criminal investigation merely because they previously had been stopped and frisked," said NYCLU lawyer Christopher Dunn.

The NYPD was forced to remove the names and addresses of people who were stopped but not given a summons or arrested back in 2010, thanks to a change in state law. The NYCLU sued the department that same year, seeking to also excise the names and addresses of people just given a summons or who were arrested but later cleared of criminal wrongdoing.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-stop-keeping-names-addresses-stop-and-frisk-targets-article-1.1420603?print
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Aug 8, 2013, 01:36 AM (4 replies)

Legally, it *is* your home, and there's lots of case law to back that up.

Granted, landlords have certain rights as property owners- but those don't include
the right to arbitrarily decide what Constitutional rights you do and do not have in your own home

A commenter at the link in the OP put it best, I think:

Your home is not the same thing as a place of business and there is a recognized level of sovereignty involved with where someone lives. Note ownership is not a prerequisite for exercising rights. First there is already established case law stating all out bans on firearms in the home is unconstitutional. Second there is already established case law stating any portion of a contract that signs away someones constitutional protected civil liberties is invalid. This property management company is in for a big loss in court. Bet on it.

Suppose your landlord was a Freeper and declared that you couldn't post 'unacceptable'
(to them) things online, or decided that LBGT people or Muslims were no longer allowed.

Would you accept that?
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Aug 7, 2013, 12:51 PM (2 replies)

Rising water levels threaten Boston’s waterfront


Rising water levels threaten Boston’s waterfront
Business is booming from end to end of the waterfront, but the specter of surging sea levels has developers on edge

By Casey Ross
Globe Staff
August 04, 2013

Boston’s effort to redevelop its waterfront is running into a major obstacle: Water.

From downtown to East Boston to Dorchester, rising sea levels are posing an increasingly urgent threat to developers’ plans to build hundreds of homes, offices, stores, and parks along Boston Harbor, with many acknowledging the need to reinforce existing properties and redesign new ones in case of flooding from another Hurricane Sandy-like storm.

“We can’t ignore it,” said Donald Chiofaro Jr. of the Chiofaro Co., which is seeking to redevelop the Harbor Garage along Atlantic Avenue. “We can’t allow ourselves to look the other way and end up in the same situation as lower Manhattan after Sandy.”

Several building owners are already preparing for the growing possibility of flood waters. At Fan Pier, developer Joseph Fallon has moved critical electrical systems higher in his buildings. Nearby, developers of a residential tower at Pier 4 are proposing to use special flood barriers for lower entrances. And the newly built Spaulding Rehabilitation Hospital in Charlestown is surrounded by protective walls and landscaping buffers, and no patient programs are located on the ground floor...
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:11 PM (4 replies)

Sen. Leahy: Bloomberg’s Gun Ads ‘Didn’t Help A Bit’


Sen. Leahy: Bloomberg’s Gun Ads ‘Didn’t Help A Bit’

By Arlette Saenz
Aug 3, 2013 6:00am

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., pointed some of the blame for the failed Senate debate over comprehensive background checks at New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who dedicated millions of dollars to eviscerating senators who opposed such legislation.

“Unfortunately, you have some on the left like the mayor of New York City, who actually didn’t help a bit with his ads. He actually turned off some people that we might have gotten for supporters,” Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in an interview to air on C-SPAN Newsmakers on Sunday. “Then you have some on the far right who say that the second amendment allows us to have anything. I mean, you can take a machine gun to deer hunting. There needs to be a balance between the two.”...

...Leahy predicted the background check bill will not make it back to the Senate floor.

“It is not going to get through now,” Leahy said. “It’s unfortunate because, Could you pass one law that would stop all the gun violence in this country? No, but can you do a lot better than we have? Yes.”

Leahy is correct on both accounts, and it's a damn shame that UBCs are off the table for the forseeable future

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Aug 5, 2013, 05:45 PM (9 replies)

Found more anti-gun "talking points" guides



Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

Gun Messaging

Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

This is an addendum to our book, Voicing Our Values: A Message Guide for Candidates. Our purpose is to help lawmakers, candidates and activists understand how to argue in favor of current proposals to curtail gun violence. As we explain here, we have tried to make this resource as easy-to-use as possible by placing model language in boxes throughout. We encourage you to adapt the language to your own voice and personalize it with your own knowledge and experience. Much more comprehensive, detailed or technical talking points are available from advocacy groups listed at the end of this paper.


How to introduce your argument
About Background Checks
About Military-Style Assault Weapons
About High-Capacity Ammunition Magazines
How to rebut common pro-gun arguments
Sources for more detailed talking points
A PDF copy of Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

Our most important advice: (1) Lay out the problem in very simple terms—most Americans have no idea how easy our laws make it for dangerous people to buy handguns and assault weapons; (2) Don’t let pro-gun advocates sidetrack the debate into “straw man” arguments, obscure “facts,” or a focus on the technical properties of guns—about 90 percent of their arguments are actually designed to change the subject so you need to insist on a debate that is relevant to the legislation at hand; and (3) Generally:
Don’t say . . .

Gun control

Stricter gun laws

You oppose the 2nd Amendment

Preventing gun violence

Stronger gun laws

Support for the 2nd Amendment goes hand-in-hand with keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people

Why . . .

People have negative reactions to “gun control” and “stricter” laws, and they feel positive about the 2nd Amendment. Also, average voters have a favorable view of the National Rifle Association (NRA). You are welcome to criticize the NRA when speaking to the progressive base, but it won’t help you persuade swing voters. That’s why these talking points don’t include anti-NRA language. If the situation requires you to attack the NRA, then condemn “NRA lobbyists” or the “NRA’s out-of-touch leaders.” Do not attack average NRA members or local NRA leaders; that language doesn’t work.


Sources for more detailed talking points

More information from the experts:

Brady Campaign on background checks, on military-style assault weapons, and on high-capacity ammunition magazines.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns on a variety of gun measures and "Demand A Plan."

Center for American Progress on “Changing the Conversation: Preventing Violence, Not Gun Control”

Message Matters one-pagers on guns.

For an excellent book by Dennis Henigan about how to debate the NRA, read Lethal Logic: Exploding the Myths that Paralyze American Gun Policy.

Here's the Center for American Progress one


Changing the Conversation: Preventing Violence, Not Gun Control

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sun Aug 4, 2013, 11:20 PM (5 replies)

I'm not *quite* ready to call the idea of "NRA talking points" a pious fraud...

...but unless someone comes up with some primary evidence that the NRA is behind them in the
next few days, I'll go ahead and do so.
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sat Aug 3, 2013, 05:49 PM (2 replies)

"NRA talking points"? How about anti-gun talking points?

(With apologies to DUer beevul for shamelessly pinching the title and theme of his thread:


This was prepared by political consulting firm OMP Direct:


and is hosted here:



...This guide is intended to help organizations and individuals choose effective arguments and language when
communicating with the public on behalf of stronger public policies to prevent gun violence. It is not intended to offer media training advice on topics such as how to prepare for a media appearance or advice about
specific media such as how to write a press release or prepare a compelling email message.
Its purpose is to offer clear advice about effective frames and messages across a broad variety of communication opportunities.
We recognize that actors within the gun violence prevention movement don’t move in lockstep when it comes
to which policy approaches they advocate for and what specific stance they take on any given issue. This guide
seeks to provide effective guidance to get groups’ message across within the range of policy choices.

OMP offers two points in their "messaging guide" that seem very familiar:



Anybody have primary links to similar messaging guides from the NRA? It would be
fascinating to compare and contrast...

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Fri Aug 2, 2013, 11:55 PM (74 replies)

“What Is That Box?” — When The NSA Shows Up At Your Internet Company


When people say the feds are monitoring what people are doing online, what does that mean? How does that work? When, and where, does it start?

Pete Ashdown, CEO of XMission, an internet service provider in Utah, knows. He received a Foreign Intelligence Service Act (FISA) warrant in 2010 mandating he let the feds monitor one of his customers, through his facility. He also received a broad gag order. In his own words:

The first thing I do when I get a law enforcement request is look for a court signature on it. Then I pass it to my attorneys and say, “Is this legitimate? Does this qualify as a warrant?” If it does, then we will respond to it. We are very up front that we respond to warrants.

If it isn’t, then the attorneys write back: “We don’t believe it is in jurisdiction or is constitutional. We are happy to respond if you do get an FBI request in jurisdiction or you get a court order to do so.”
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:36 AM (4 replies)

An Ominous Alliance: Militiamen Showing Up in Wisconsin as Mining Co. 'Security'


Imagine taking a hike in your local woods and coming upon characters toting semi-automatic weapons, dressed in camo and wearing masks. Then imagine finding out they are militia-movement followers hired by a mining operation to protect against "eco-terrorists."

That's what's been happening to people living in northern Wisconsin lately. And these are the kinds of guys people are encountering in the woods...

...In short order, a new set of goons appeared as security for GTAC's President, Bill Williams, in his recent appearances in Wisconsin. And these men were wearing the logos of a Patriot/militia organization called the Watchmen of America -- though true to the "leaderless resistance" model of action these "Patriots" espouse, the Watchmen's organizational leaders are denying any involvement, while in effect conceding that members may be operating in Wisconsin without their approval...

...These denials are not particularly meaningful. After all, the Patriot/militia movement has been characterized by a "leaderless resistance" strategy that encourages individual "lone wolf" and small-cell action in which organizational leaders can plausibly deny responsibility and thus avoid any consequences for the actions of followers and colleagues.

Let this be a useful reminder as to why the Left elements of the working class have always included
people that bear arms.

I'm not advocating a guerilla war against these mooks, I'm simply reminding people that these types
just don't care how deeply felt your principles are, and that your strength is not 'as the
strength of ten because your heart is pure'.

While non-violence will always have a place in the political continuum, it will not work against those
depraved persons, states or corporations like GTAC who simply don't give a shit about your principles.

Harry Turtledove illustrated this nicely in a story:


You might also wish to research:




"Radio Free Dixie: Robert F. Williams and the Roots of Black Power"


Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:58 PM (23 replies)

Detroit Free Press: Police launch investigations after arrest of photographer

Warning: Autoplay video at link (grrrr...)


Police launch investigations after arrest of photographer

5:03 PM, July 16, 2013

By Jim Schaefer and Gina Damron

Detroit Free Press Staff Writers
Detroit police and the department’s internal affairs officers have launched investigations following the arrest of a Free Press photographer who was filming a police action on a public street last week.

Police said they are looking into the conduct of photographer Mandi Wright and the actions of an officer who ordered her to stop filming and wrestled her phone away from her. They also are looking into the disappearance of a memory card from her newspaper-issued iPhone and whether she was briefly left alone with the crime suspect whom she had been filming.

Wright, 47, was arrested Thursday after she and a reporter came upon an arrest scene near Woodbridge and Riopelle, east of downtown. Police at the scene said Wright tussled with an officer after he had confiscated her iPhone; Wright said that she was concentrating on taking her video and did not realize the man who grabbed her phone was a police officer. Wright was handcuffed and later, she said, put in an interrogation room with the suspect.

Detroit Police Chief James Craig confirmed Monday that an internal affairs investigation is being conducted. Deputy Chief James Tolbert said no conclusions have been drawn, but if that investigation verifies that she was put into a room with the suspect and then left alone, “that could be a serious breach of department policy.”...

Man, TPTB sure don't like it when Little Brother and Little Sister start looking back, do they?
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Jul 18, 2013, 07:20 PM (4 replies)
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