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The One Simple Poster that Lays Bare the Country's Two Competing Directions

Tue Jul 31, 2012 at 01:05 PM PDT
The One Simple Poster that Lays Bare the Country's Two Competing Directions
by Occupy Posters



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/31/1115439/-The-One-Simple-Poster-that-Lays-Bare-the-Country-s-Two-Competing-Directions

I know better than to respond to right wing crap on facebook

I do know better. I do know better. I do know better, but sometimes I do it anyway...

This time, the post was about everyone going out to eat at Chick-fil-A in order to support Mr. Cathey's BRAVERY!!! And his FREEDOM. His freedom of speech. His freedom of religion. And by golly, he's just such a good guy who never deserved such venomous hatred!

The poster (a conservative Christian I had known in college) insisted that she usually stays away from all things political...But, THIS TIME, this man, Mr. Cathey, had been treated so unfairly, his rights had been so trampled upon (no mention, of course, of the millions of people upon whose freedoms Mr. Cathey had trampled) and, by golly, did I mention his constitutional right to his own RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!! AND DID I MENTION FREEDOM???

{{{Sigh}}} Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't respond.

I was good. I held back.

A woman named Stacey was the first to respond, and her slap-down of our mutual "friend" actually gave me hope:

"Was his statement "tolerant"? Everyone has the right to express his or her beliefs, Cindy, but it disappoints me that you would go out of your way to defend someone who believes that my relationship and my family are less than his relationship and his family or yours, in the name of God, no less. We may have freedom of speech, but that is no reason to support someone whose beliefs equal discrimination, disrespect, and intolerance of fellow human beings who just want to live quiet lives with the same rights as anyone else. The marriage equality debate is not about beliefs. It is about civil rights, and it is about family. How would you feel if someone in a public role had spoke out against your relationship, and donated funds to political organizations that are working hard to prevent you from marrying the person you love? How would you feel if I supported that person and his "freedom of speech"? This is not a political issue. This is personal to many people. Including your own family members."


YAY, Stacey!!! She was goood. I clicked the "like" button on what she said. (Okay. I'll admit it. I even checked out her fb page and saw the beautiful photos of her and her partner. What a lovely couple!)

Then she got pummeled. She held her own for a while and then left.

Don't do it...Don't do it...DON'T. DO. IT!!! {{{sigh}}} I did it. I went there.

Let me be clear about this (especially to Stacey), I support those who are gay and lesbian with all my heart. The gay and lesbian community must fight bigotry and hate on a daily basis, and I am there fighting it with them. Discrimination and intolerance come in all forms, even wrapped in the cloak of religious righteousness - there is nothing new to that. Mr. Cathy's religious beliefs are his own, and no one is stopping him from having them. Yet, he is also the leader of a major food chain. If he makes public statements that are in any way discriminatory, there WILL BE A BACKLASH. It is naive to think there would be none. Of course, he has the RIGHT to say it. And he has the RIGHT to his beliefs. Just as those who are now boycotting him have the RIGHT to do that. So, in the last few days, I have been mulling a hypothetical question. Please allow me to ask it here -- If Mr.Cathy were a Muslim and his religious beliefs prevented him from supporting equality for women, would people still support his religious beliefs and his freedom of speech? Would all of you still meet up in his restaurant? I think not. Yet, what is the difference?


The response was an overwhelming...{{{crickets}}}

Eventually Stacey and another woman began arguing again (Stacey did fine without me.) I did repost my hypothetical question, but it was completely ignored. Probably deemed "too far out there". I've always had a history of being the odd one. Actually, I'm kinda proud to wear that badge.


On Facebook -- Could you imagine if Obama had offshore bank accounts...

Check out The Guardian Blog on Rmoney's visit -- too funny!

The Guardian had a blog going during Romney's visit. It's been taken down, but here are a few snippets. Funny stuff!

21:55 BST

We're going to wrap up today's live blog politics coverage. Here's a summary of where things stand:

Mitt Romney made all kinds of news for saying and doing the wrong things in the first full day of his trip to London. The trip was meant to make him look presidential. In the apt summation of John Podhoretz, it made him look like Mr. Bean. The Romney show continues tomorrow, when he attends the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games. Should be fun!

British politicians David Cameron and Boris Johnson took umbrage at Romney's remarks and ridiculed Romney in front of tens of thousands of people, respectively. We can't believe we just typed that sentence...

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...17:31 BST

The Mitt Romney Summer 2012 World Tour to Three Countries is apparently having trouble moving tickets.

The London blogger Guido Fawkes reports that organizers of a Romney fundraising reception in the city this evening have slashed the original $2,500 ticket price to $1,000 for "a few last minute guests," in an effort to drum up participation...

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...16:21 BST

Lacking a transcript of the private meeting between the American candidate and the British leader, we rely on the candidate's remarks after the meeting to relay to you that in the picture below Mitt Romney is telling David Cameron that while prospects for peace in the Middle East appear slim, they frankly have a better chance of pulling it off than London does of hosting an Olympics not historically disastrous, and so his, Romney's, recommendation would be that Cameron get MI6 involved, which if Cameron wants he can tell the world press assembled right outside about after they're through. PS: Nice Europe...




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... 15:20 BST

Mitt Romney's charm offensive.

Paul Harris @paulxharris Good old Mitt. His charm offensive in the UK failed to be charming, but he really pulled off the offensive bit #gop #romney...


MORE AT: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/26/mitt-romney-london-olympics-gaffe-live

Wolf Blizter get his ass handed to him on a silver platter

Thu Jul 26, 2012 at 09:09 PM PDT
Wolf Blizter get his ass handed to him on a silver platter
by Olympia

It was truly a thing of beauty. Wolf Blitzer did a live, on stage interview with Adm. Bill McRaven, Head of the U.S. Special Operations Command at the kickoff session of the Aspen Security Forum. Admiral McRaven was in charge of the Seals when they raided the bin Laden compound at Abbottabad, Pakistan.

NOTE:
Saturday 6:00 p.m., a special SITUATION ROOM, the full hour with Admiral McRaven.

If I had not seen this live, I would not have believed it. The video provided by CNN has edited out the best parts but here is the transcript (all bolding is mine).

WOLF BLITZER, CNN: This is the guy who's sitting right here who had the guts to tell the commander in chief we should do it, let's do it. And when you ordered that raid and when you said you think you - you didn't even know for sure that bin Laden was in Abbottabad at that compound about a mile or so away from the West Point of Pakistan, did you?

ADM. WILLIAM MCRAVEN, COMMANDER, U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Well, let me make one thing clear. I didn't order the raid.
(LAUGHTER)
BLITZER: But he told the president of the United States that he thought he could do it.
MCRAVEN: I mean, and this is not a small point. The fact of the matter is it was the president of the United States that ordered the raid.
BLITZER: And he deserves an enormous amount of credit for that decision.
MCRAVEN: Absolutely, he does.
(APPLAUSE)
BLITZER: And when he came to the head of special operations, that would be you, and said, what do you think, what did you say?
MCRAVEN: Well, first, I will tell you that it was a long process to get there.
And our piece of it, the military piece of kind of what I look at kind of three components was probably the easiest aspect of the entire raid. The two other pieces of this were the CIA's role. And I think when the history is finally written and outlined and exposed on how the CIA determined that bin Laden was there, it will be one of the great intelligence operations in the history of intelligence organizations.
And a tremendous amount of that credit goes to Director Leon Panetta at the time because he built the right team, he had the right people, he made some very gutsy calls. And he was not concerned about who got the credit. And so when you take a look at how he built that team, which was a military and intelligence team, tremendous amount of credit goes to the agency.
And the other piece of this really is the president and his national security team. I have made it very clear to people, again, the military piece of this, we did I think 11 other raids that evening in Afghanistan. Now, I don't want to diminish the nature of this raid. It was a little bit more sporty.
(LAUGHTER)
MCRAVEN: And we understood that there were some strategic implications to it.
But, at the end of the day, it was what we had been doing really for 10 years. The president and his national security team - I'm not a political guy, but I will tell you, as - as an interested observer in this, they were magnificent in how they handled the start to finish.
We went through a number of meetings. The president asked all the right questions. His national security team, with Secretary Gates, Secretary Clinton, Chairman Mullen, the vice chairman, Tom Donilon, Denis McDonough and John Brennan and others, really did a fine job of digging down to find out the facts, to make their recommendations based on the facts.
And of course the president gave me ample time to prepare once the concept was approved. But at the end of the day, make no mistake about it, it was the president of the United States that shouldered the burden for this operation, that made the hard decisions, that was instrumental in the planning process, because I pitched every plan to him.
So any indication that Bill McRaven ordered this raid, led this raid was, you know, the key piece of this raid is just patently false.
BLITZER: But you're a Navy SEAL.
MCRAVEN: Yes.
(LAUGHTER)
BLITZER: And these men who went in there, Navy SEALs, they were taking orders from you directly.
MCRAVEN: They were.
BLITZER: You were speaking to all of them. You knew each one of them personally. Here's just a technical question. Did you rehearse it in advance?
MCRAVEN: Well, I'm not going to talk about the tactical details.
But, obviously, we're not going to do a mission like that without rehearsing. We rehearse every operation, particularly significant ones like that. As I said, I have made a point of not talking about the tactical piece of this, other than to say that it is what we do.
We get on helicopters, we go to objectives, we secure the objectives, we get back on helicopters, and we come home. I was short one helicopter, but...
(LAUGHTER)
BLITZER: Well, that stealth helicopter, when it went down - and all of us have read about it, we have heard about it, I have spoken to people who were in that room, the White House SITUATION ROOM, which as opposed to another SITUATION ROOM - but when that helicopter went down, there was a gasp, because a lot of the folks there, correct me if I'm wrong, thought of Desert One in 1980, Jimmy Carter's plan to rescue Americans in Iran.
MCRAVEN: Well, I wouldn't pretend to tell you what they were thinking.
BLITZER: What were you thinking?
MCRAVEN: I was too busy, frankly. I mean, we had a backup plan. We executed the backup plan.
And at that point in time, you're worried about getting the mission done and getting the boys back home. So we had a plan, suffice to say.
BLITZER: And it worked.
MCRAVEN: And it worked.
BLITZER: That helicopter, by the way, all the stealth technology and all that, is that gone? Has it been shared with bad guys?
MCRAVEN: I'm not going to address that.
BLITZER: You don't want to talk about it.
(LAUGHTER)
BLITZER: I'm curious.
All right, let's talk a little bit about - and I want to nail this down as best as I can. You didn't have 100 percent knowledge. The president didn't have 100 percent knowledge that bin Laden was holed up in that compound. Did you have 80 percent, 50 percent? Give me a ballpark. How confident were you that a tall guy was hiding out in that compound?
MCRAVEN: Well, again, I'm not going to address the tactical piece of that.
Suffice to say we were not sure he was there. And, again, that gets back to some tough decisions that were made. My job was to get him if he was there. If he wasn't there, we would know that pretty quickly. And our intent was to get up and get out.

BLITZER: I suspect you're not going to want to answer this question, but I will ask it anyhow.

(LAUGHTER)

BLITZER: And as the admiral and I know -- we just spent some quality time together -- this is the United States of America. We can ask the questions. He doesn't have to answer them. But we can ask the questions.

And I think it's an important question that at least I have always been very, very curious about.

Was the mission to capture bin Laden or was the mission to kill bin Laden?

MCRAVEN: You know, that's a great question. I'm not going to answer it.

(LAUGHTER)

BLITZER: All right.

But there were contingencies this guy would be brought out in a helicopter and brought somewhere?

MCRAVEN: Did they teach you this, to do the end-around when your first question doesn't work?

BLITZER: Yes.

(LAUGHTER)

BLITZER: Just trying to make sure. You don't want to discuss that?

MCRAVEN: No.


This is the only portion of the interview CNN has posted and they cut out the first few minutes where the Admiral is adamant that the decision was Obama's and only Obama's. The video is well worth watching just so you can see how a well polished gentleman the Admiral is and how slick he handled Wolf.

VIDEO AT LINK: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/27/1114101/-Wolf-Blizter-get-his-ass-handed-to-him-on-a-silver-platter

Romney's Anglo-Saxon Heritage Awesomely Shredded on Twitter

Wed Jul 25, 2012 at 07:36 PM PDT
Romney's Anglo-Saxon Heritage Awesomely Shredded on Twitter
by marianevans

When I first heard the Romney team's dog siren of a phrase, "Anglo-Saxon heritage," I was shocked and dismayed. But it's been kind of heartening how much negative attention the Romney campaign is getting for the comments (e.g. from TPM and the LA Times). Not to mention from the Tweeps who kept #AngloSaxonHeritage trending on Twitter for 24 hours, a hashtag apparently started by Mother Jones's David Corn.

I especially liked these:

Gary Dunion: Obama's grandfathers served in the British & US armed forces in WWI & WWII respectively. Can Romney say the same? #anglosaxonheritage (@garydunion).

Jason Febery: Bet Romney wouldn't be so fond of our #AngloSaxonHeritage if he knew the UK's stance on gun control, healthcare, and the Republican Party. (@JasonFebery).

And there's more:

Joel Ingersoll: Breaking: Romney picks Beowulf as VP running mate. #AngloSaxonHeritage (@FlyoverJoel).

Disalmanac: UPDATE: An adviser has touted Mitt Romey's "Anglo-Saxon heritage." So apparently Mitt is a barbarian pagan ready to invade England. Yay! (@Disalmanac).

Max Read: As a long-time Anglo-Saxon I'm excited for Mitt Romney to restore our shared heritage of fighting Vikings and being conquered by the French. (@max_read).

The Daily Edge: Mitt Romney arrives in London to discuss his #AngloSaxonHeritage and how serfdom might work in 21st century America. (@TheDailyEdge).

Henry Tudor: Monarchy. Hunting. Impregnating ladies. Nailing heads to city gates. Looking hot w a 52 inch waist. You're welcome. #AngloSaxonHeritage (@KngHnryVIII).

Gabe Ortiz: Is Mitt trying to take the White House or Downton Abbey? #AngloSaxonHeritage (@Tusk81).


The Romney people have been denying in a half-assed kind of way that "Anglo-Saxon heritage" was ever a bona-fide campaign-endorsed talking point. But they can't exactly roll back the phrase (retroactively, if you will) now that it's had a life of its own on Twitter.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/25/1113716/-Romney-s-Anglo-Saxon-Heritage-Awesomely-Shredded-on-Twitter

On Facebook: If guns were as regulated as cars

ABC NEWS: The Bain Ad Romney Should Fear Most

Tue Jul 17, 2012 at 01:17 PM PDT
ABC NEWS: The Bain Ad Romney Should Fear Most
by The Troubadour for Writing by David Harris Gershon

One of the most viral presidential ads to date, with over a million hits on Youtube, has been unleashed in a host of battleground states. And according to ABC News (and even Republican strategists), it may be the one Romney's campaign should fear most.

It is truly devastating. Watch:





Here's ABC News' Matt Negrin:

The one-minute spot, made by the super PAC supporting President Obama, Priorities USA Action, already has more than 1 million hits on YouTube, more than 10 times any other super PAC ad. More significant, a person at a Republican group that has tested Democratic attacks on Romney told ABC News the ad is potentially the most devastating yet.



The ad stars a former plant worker in Indiana who tells the story: One day he was told to build a small stage and, shortly after, Romney’s Bain colleagues herded the workers in front of the stage to tell them they were fired. Romney, the worker says, made $100 million by shutting down the plant.


With Romney being hammered by a host of well-crafted Bain ads, it speaks volumes that Republican strategists are concerned about this one. And they have good reason to be, for not only does it play upon the intellectual point -- that Romney benefited financially from outsourcing jobs -- it plays simultaneously upon deep emotional chords.

And the combination of the two, told via a true and heart-wrenching narrative, is precisely what is needed to brand an idea upon the voters' psyche.

Particularly given this fact: the part of our brain which dominates decision-making is also the part of our brain which is devoid of language, yet houses our emotions.

Decisions are often made where our emotions reside. Which is why this ad -- true and brutal -- is a killer.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/17/1110981/-ABC-NEWS-The-Bain-Ad-Romney-Should-Fear-Most

DAVID CORN EXCLUSIVE: Romney Invested Millions in Chinese Firm That Profited on US Outsourcing

EXCLUSIVE: Romney Invested Millions in Chinese Firm That Profited on US Outsourcing
The GOP candidate decries China poaching US jobs. But at Bain he held a large stake in a Chinese company that did just that.
—By David Corn
Wed Jul. 11, 2012 8:10 PM PDT

Last month, Mitt Romney's campaign got into a dustup with the Washington Post after the newspaper reported that Bain Capital, the private equity firm the GOP presidential candidate founded, invested in several US companies that outsourced jobs to China and India. The campaign indignantly demanded a retraction, claiming that these businesses did not send jobs overseas while Romney was running Bain, and the Post stood by its investigation. Yet there is another aspect to the Romney-as-outsourcer controversy. According to government documents reviewed by Mother Jones, Romney, when he was in charge of Bain, invested heavily in a Chinese manufacturing company that depended on US outsourcing for its profits—and that explicitly stated that such outsourcing was crucial to its success.

This previously unreported deal runs counter to Romney's tough talk on the campaign trail regarding China. "We will not let China continue to steal jobs from the United States of America," Romney declared in February. But with this investment, Romney sought to make money off a foreign company that banked on American firms outsourcing manufacturing overseas...

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...At the time Romney was acquiring shares in Global-Tech, the firm publicly acknowledged that its strategy was to profit from prominent US companies outsourcing production abroad. On September 4, 1998, Global-Tech issued a press release announcing it was postponing completion of a $30 million expansion of its Dongguan facility because Sunbeam, a prominent American consumer products company and a major client of Global-Tech, was cutting back on outsourcing as part of an overall consolidation. But John C.K. Sham, Global-Tech's president and CEO, said, "Although it appears that customers such as Sunbeam are not outsourcing their manufacturing as quickly as we had anticipated, we still believe that the long-term trend toward outsourcing will continue." Global-Tech, which in mid-1998 announced fiscal year sales of $118.3 million (an increase of 89 percent over the previous year), also manufactured household appliances for Hamilton Beach, Mr. Coffee, Proctor-Silex, Revlon, and Vidal Sassoon, and its chief exec was hoping for more outsourcing from these and other American firms.

The Romney campaign and Bain Capital have insisted that Romney departed Bain in February 1999 to head the troubled 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City and had no involvement in the private equity firm's deals after that point—a contention that has been challenged by the Obama campaign. But the Global-Tech Appliances transactions occurred long before Romney jetted off to Utah.
At the time Romney was acquiring shares in Global-Tech, the firm publicly acknowledged that its strategy was to profit from prominent US companies outsourcing production abroad.

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...Sankaty is a story in itself. It was recently the focus of an Associated Press investigation that reported that Sankaty "is among several Romney holdings that have not been fully disclosed" and that there is a "mystery surrounding" Sankaty. Reporting on this Romney entity, Vanity Fair noted that "investments in tax havens such as Bermuda raise many questions, because they are in 'jurisdictions where there is virtually no tax and virtually no compliance,' as one Miami-based offshore lawyer put it." With Sankaty, Romney was using a mysterious Bermuda-based entity to invest in a Chinese firm that thrived on US outsourcing...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/bain-capital-mitt-romney-outsourcing-china-global-tech

New graphic for the GOP's War on Women (WOW!)

Mon Jul 09, 2012 at 05:40 PM PDT
New graphic for the GOP's War on Women (WOW!)
by Eclectablog

...Anne C. Savage, created this new graphic for the Republican's War on Women (WOW).

Enjoy.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/09/1108054/-New-graphic-for-the-GOP-s-War-on-Women-WOW
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