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"The Devil has told you that!" cried the little man

"The devil has told you that! The devil has told you that," cried the little man, and in his anger he plunged his right foot so deep into the earth that his whole leg went in, and then in rage he pulled at his left leg so hard with both hands that he tore himself in two.

Here you have a lecherous little man, who spins straw into gold, and makes increasing demands against a woman under duress.

His challenge, to release her from these straits, is to figure out who he really is - to "guess my name".

She cannot guess his name, but he makes the mistake of revealing his true nature in a bragging rant which is overheard.

"...and round about the fire quite a ridiculous little man was jumping, he hopped upon one leg, and shouted -

today I bake, tomorrow brew,
the next I'll have the young queen's child.
Ha, glad am I that no one knew
that Rumpelstiltskin I am styled.

He is brought down by the arrogance of his own self-revelation.

It infuriates him.

He self destructs.

When people started calling him Trumplethinskin, I did not realize how true it would be.

Is it ethical for me to have made this bet?

An acquaintance of mine is quite steeped in right wing conspiracy theories.

We don't normally discuss politics. He is something of a gambler, and poker is one of his hobbies.

After having discussed the business at hand, I asked him "I don't want to get into an argument about who either of us supports in this election, but since you are a gambling man then who, in your estimation is likely to win?"

"There's not going to be an election..." and he went off to the races about how there will be a state of emergency and Obama will declare martial law and all that stuff.

I couldn't help laughing, but I did say "Okay, okay, fine, yes, I understand you believe that, but assuming that an election does take place...."

"I'd say there's about 30% of that happening...."

"...yes, I get that, but if the election does happen, then who do you think will win it?"

"Oh, I'd put a $1000 on Trump."

Now, I should back up and explain that another Trumper I know has already conceded Hillary will win, but he was still willing to bet me $50 that the popular margin will be less than 5%. I took that bet.

But I said, "Okay, you'll put up $1000 on a Trump win outright?"

"Yes. Because if he wins, that's great, I get the money. But if he loses, then Hillary's going to take all my money away, so it won't matter to me."

I checked with my wife, and she said, "Go ahead, bet him the $1000."

Now, both of these guys are pretty much insulated from opposing information and facts, and tend to get all of their information from "interesting" websites.

I took the $1000 bet.

My wife said that I should consider whether I'm taking advantage of someone who really just doesn't know any better. It would be like him sitting me down for a poker game. He'd clean me out, no problem. Then again, I wouldn't sit down to play poker with him either, so there's that.

I'm somewhat ambivalent about it. On the one hand, taking bets from suckers is sort of the Trump business model - whether they are lenders, investors, employees, contractors, partners, etc.. On the other hand, these are rational adults capable of making their own decisions.

So what says the collective Magic 8-Ball here?

What are the ethical considerations of seeking out low information Trumpers and proposing bets with them?

(on edit: I forgot to mention, just because I'm a nice guy, I offered to pay double if the election is cancelled)

We already know what Trump will say

This is what he said when Obama beat Romney in 2012:

Not only is it factually incorrect re: the popular vote, but he has already started with the "rigged election" stuff.

There is no mystery to what he'll say.

He'll probably keep insisting that he won.

Do the windows open in Trump's tower of solitude?

Are the railings on the patio areas high and hard to climb?

Do they have nets over the sidewalk?

Asking for a friend.

Megyn Kelly points out that "truth is a defense" re: Trump suing New York Times

In reply to reports that Trump was considering suing the New York Times, Megyn Kelly pointed out:

Megyn Kelly Verified account

Risks: Defamation v. hard to prove since DT=pub figure. Also, truth is a defense so NYT will double down & will cast wide net in discovery.

I think this year, she should just say, "No, Sean, YOU walk down the fucking hallway yourself. I'm not doing it this time."

OMG Someone in Trump Tower is Periscoping a Video Feed

Now would be a good time for Trump to release his taxes

Because there is NOTHING in his taxes that could be any worse than what's happening.

Jeff Lord is grading sexual assault on a curve

On CNN just now, he suggested that even if Donald was "groping", the Broaddrick allegation involves a lot more.

I guess it's not sexual assault until its "legitimate rape."

Trumpster Logic: If the debates were rigged, then how did Trump win them so handily?

I can't see the argument for Trump declaring "rigged" and pulling out of the third debate.

In the first one, they gave Hillary a secret radio receiver to whisper answers in her ear (since, obviously, not having any political experience, she wouldn't be able to come up with answers on her own), and they gave him a bad microphone.

But Trump won by at least 120% in most polls, as he points out repeatedly.

In the second one, they all teamed up on him "three against one", and they cut him short at 49:10 minutes speaking time, while giving Hillary a generous 39:05 minutes.

And again, Trump won - they all say he won and he says he won by more than 200% in all the polls.

So, despite rigged contests against him, he keeps coming out the winner. Why would he possibly complain about that now?

The lady in the gold hat who is revolting

I like the way Pence says "Don't say that."

Not "Don't do that" or some formulation of "no, we don't do that in this country."

But "don't say that".

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