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Fingerprints will "CRIPPLE" ridesharing! LOL Uber & Lyft are run by Ayn Randian

tantrum throwing, billionaire brats.

Updated at 2:30 p.m. after interview with Ald. Beale: A new ordinance could decimate ridesharing in Chicago—so, UberX and Lyft—by requiring all rideshare drivers to get a chauffeur's license.

This ordinance, proposed by Ald. Anthony Beale (9th), would "make it nearly impossible for ridesharing to operate in the city," Lyft spokesperson Chelsea Wilson said in a statement. Uber concurs that the ordinance "threatens to take ridesharing away."

Beale told Chicagoist that really, the issue is that ridesharing has been regulated "piecemeal" in Chicago for too long. He hopes to "level the playing field" for cab companies and rideshare services. He argues that the status quo is "putting hard-working cab drivers out of business... family people who have worked for years."
"The first two years that Uber and Lyft came into the city of Chicago, they were able to operate without a business license," Beale added. "They made hundreds of millions of dollars... while they were operating illegally in the city of Chicago."
If Beale's ordinance passes—which it could as early as April 13, though Beale predicts that City Council "shenanigans" will hold it up for a while—it would essentially prohibit the part-time rideshare drivers who currently offer cheaper-than-taxi rates and work with only a driver's license. Under the ordinance, all drivers would need to obtain a chauffeur's license, and get background-checked and fingerprinted by the city. Uber and Lyft would also have to meet the same quota as cab companies: five percent of their fleets would need to be accessible to people with disabilities.

Uber reps said in a statement that the ordinance would "force UberX driver-partners to get expensive chauffeur’s licenses that are designed for full-time, professional drivers. This would eliminate low-cost options and leave only pricey chauffeur services." Uber added that Beale's ordinance would hurt customers who can't afford traditional taxis.

Lyft expressed similar sentiments in a statement provided by Wilson:
Lyft unequivocally opposes Alderman Beale's proposal to impose a penalty of over $300 on local residents who help provide safe, affordable rides to their fellow Chicagoans. The ordinance as written would make it nearly impossible for ridesharing to operate in the city. We would welcome the opportunity to instead work with Chicago leaders to preserve the economic opportunities ridesharing has brought to the city for drivers as well as local businesses and communities.

Beale questions the companies' claims that they provide affordable rides. "If that's the case, why do they surge price? Cab companies are not allowed to surge price if it's raining, snowing... able to charge three times the normal amount . So who can afford that?"

He added that Lyft's estimate of the price of a chauffeur's license "sounds excessive. But if the cab drivers can get it and pay for it, why can't ? Why don't they underwrite it? They're making enough money to do that."
Uber said in their statement that Beale's ordinance would "destroy earning opportunities" for the 35,000 part-time UberX drivers in Chicago. Uber argues that UberX provides essential jobs in areas with high unemployment—20 percent of UberX drivers live on the South and West sides, the company reports.

Beale argues that rideshare driving jobs are far from lucrative. He claims that the average Uber driver only stays with the company for 2-3 months, high turnover attributable to low, highly-taxed wages.
"The fat cats at the top are the ones making hundreds of millions of dollars," Beale said, while people driving for Uber have to pay taxes on the full ride fare, including the cut Uber takes. Combine that with the expense of "wear and tear" on your car, and the rideshare model isn't so sweet for drivers, from Beale's perspective.

Beale added that his ordinance is also a reaction to safety concerns about ridesharing apps. "We don't even know who they are!" he said of rideshare drivers.
As we reported in December, a rogue Lyft driver once followed a passenger who declined a ride, though he was not matched with her. It's unclear how widespread incidents like that are.

Uber has started a petition against Beale's ordinance, which has more than 10,500 signatures so far.


30 of 50 city council members have co-signed the ordinance but Uber's Mayor, Rahm Emanuel. I thought you guys had a HUGE problem with cronism LOL, Uber is an Emanuel family business.

Uber is FOS. Their drivers are being fingered printed in NYC and the world didn't come to an end. Mayor DeBlasio is about the closest thing we have to a real Democrat today.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Mon May 9, 2016, 10:33 AM (0 replies)

Are you an employee or a business man? Do you have a business license to operate legally in your

pumpkin patch?
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Mon May 9, 2016, 10:19 AM (1 replies)

What pumpkin patch do you live in? Unlike city cab drivers, Uber drivers aren't obligated to take

disabled. Here in Chicago and other cities, the disabled have testified they are discriminated against. The disabled get discounted fares and are afraid that Uber is destroying the taxi industry. Uber doesn't have any wheelchair accessible vans.

STFU! You sound like Travis "The Sky is Falling" Kalanick.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Mon May 9, 2016, 10:05 AM (1 replies)

That you can't follow along indicates your familiarity with logic is elusive.

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Mon May 9, 2016, 07:38 AM (1 replies)

Where did you get your MISinformation about background checks from? Uber? Lol

Have you met industry standards? Can you?
*criminal background check
*DMV driving background check
*drug test
*physical exam

Are you a convicted rapist or felon? Whatever the case may be, Uber has ZERO faith in you or the driver behind the wheel next to you. Did you know Uber and Lyft pulled out of Austin this morning because the city passed and ordinance to have their drivers fingerprinted and run criminal background checks?

Unfortunately for the unwitting public, you know NOTHING about what you're talking about. Unfortunately for Liberals, Thom Hartmann doesn't, either.

Uber lies and settles lawsuits years later. Unfortunately, it's a small price to pay for the goodwill they've already built. And even after the lawsuits settle, no one is the wiser and people like you continue to carry the water for Ayn Rand's favorite billionaires.

Did these reach your Uber inbox?

Uber will pay $10 million to settle lawsuit over driver background checks

Uber Agrees to Pay $28.5 Million to Settle False Advertising Case
Ride-hailing service also will change its market language concerning ‘safe rides fee’

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Mon May 9, 2016, 07:08 AM (1 replies)

Obama clearly ran to the left of Hillary, but governed like the Second Clinton. For the life of me,

I'll never understand the New Democrats' Party. What are they so affraid of that they run to they immediately abandon core Democratic values and govern right of center. Then we just accept that Democrats don't vote as a given. Republicans don't have this problem. For worse or worser, they follow through on all of their awful promises. And the Democratic Party just tags along.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sun May 8, 2016, 11:29 AM (0 replies)

I told you what he's doing. Rachel is merely and incessantly regurgitating cud she and only...

everyone in media has been ruminating on for months. She and the others are myopically focused on numbers.

Man, it's bigger than percentages, and if you didn't know that before, you just learned something new. That's more than you can say by watching Rachel. You can watch any talking head on any network spew out the exact same piece verbatim. She's even reading from the New York Times. How stupid is her audience that she believes they need to be told the math every day. The math hasn't changed for months. Months ago she was reading Nate Silver to you, and he told you Bernie's route was impossible. She treats you all like you have ADD.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Wed May 4, 2016, 01:21 PM (0 replies)

Rachel Maddow assumes Rush's role for the Dem Party: King Maker

There is so much good that will come of Bernie staying in, arguably the most important reason of all being exposing and educating Americans on how we select a candidate. Every state is different and many elections have had disputed results on the our side; we were thought of the pure party and above election shananagins. I can't wait until the California primary and hundreds of thousands discover they are left out of the process for mistakenly registering with the Independence Party. People didn't know so this is a learning experience. But they won't learn a damn thing if Bernie drops out.

Then you have myopic Rachel slamming Bernie for not bowing out. Rachel is of the elitist, well educated 10% class Thomas Frank is calling out in "Listen Liberal."

Please note: King Maker is sexist but Queen maker is more sexiest. I know the latter is true because I read it on DU.

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Wed May 4, 2016, 12:31 PM (42 replies)

I think Hillary supporters have a worry reflex that's not rational. They started blaming

Bernie supporters months ago for her losing the GE. Trump and his legion are a media phenomenon. They're not under a microscope, they're under a magnifying glass. They aren't that numerous, they just look irresistible on TV. And remember, this year, Hillary is a media favorite, too. The media loves to make and break people. She's like a great comeback kid story on her way to history and only a complete bafoon stands in her way. The media built Trump up, now they are going to destroy him.

He's too embarrassing and illequipped to be a statesman and the media knows it. And who are his allies? Which generals support him? Who from Wall Street supports him? Who in Congress supports him? Who in TV or real estate supports him? His cabinet will be Duck Dynasty.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Wed May 4, 2016, 07:33 AM (1 replies)

No. And what makes you think he didn't start it? Or maybe you're point is, it had already begun.

Occupy started it, then it got moved along until Bernie said, "If no one else steps forward, then I will." And when no one else stepped forward (I think we were holding out for Warren), Bernie put it on PEDs. But the establishment, including MSM, has marginalized the revolution since Day 1. And Bernie, an old, obscure socialist from an overlooked state was their, i.e. the establishment and media, dream candidate. A target too easy to mock and ridicule they couldn't have cast a better character. But they underestimated the Revolution. They thought the kids had just showed up but the revolution had been underway for years.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:13 PM (0 replies)
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