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If you understand implicity, I was very clear...

When I say "otherwise," I'm implying that this was acceptable action IF AND ONLY IF they knock on doors this week. If not, it sends an irresponsible and dangerous message. File this under: give them an inch and they take a mile. Happens on Wall Street, too. No punishment, "Fuck it, I'll take more next time!"

I posited my question to you to see if you would have taken a different position had there been adequate reinforcement, but you didn't want to answer that. Instead, you chose to opt out and take a "since it can't happen I won't answer" position.



OK, adequate BLM (or whatever local or state) presence and you're in charge. What's your call?

In case you didn't see the video.




I'm tired of seeing liberals get beaten and pepper sprayed and arrested whether they are provocateurs or NOT. I'm frustrated if that doesn't bother you, too.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:34 PM (1 replies)

Awesome, but that's an extremely rare stance around here.



I never even thought about it that way.

Hillary supporters, would you vote for McCain, Romney, Jeb, Christie.. if she loses the primary?



But, that's interesting, but beside the point.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sat Apr 12, 2014, 03:46 PM (2 replies)

Please explain why YOU bypass the Democratic primary?

It's habitual with Hillary supports. The thread about Hillary's vote on the Iraq War is a perfect, but not an isolated, example.

Hillary supporters always want to divert the argument, and reframe it as, "Would you rather have McCain as president?"

Wow! Talk about spiking the ball before reaching the endzone!!!


No, virtually NO ONE at DU would vote for McCain, Romeny, Jeb, etc.. instead of Hillary.

But many of us would vote for another Democrat over Hillary.

So GET OVER IT!
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sat Apr 12, 2014, 03:25 PM (59 replies)

I gave them some perspective last night...

Want to see what a police state REALLY looks like? And this will be good for y'all to see what you'll be up against when you decide to go "full militia" on the state. I was in the middle of this NATO summit protest in Chicago in 2012. None of us were armed. But this is what the city of Chicago unleashed on us.

Perspective is everything.








https://www.google.com/search?q=2012+nato+summit+police+chicago&tbm=isch&cad=h
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sat Apr 12, 2014, 06:54 AM (1 replies)

since it's not about the money to the students, there's only one way to settle this...

single-payer health care.

student athletes win - they have health care for life (that's what this is all about...allegedly)
universities win - they keep all the loot
general student body wins - surely the universities would have raised tuition to make up for shortfalls

Everybody wins!! most of all, all Americans
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:48 PM (1 replies)

bookmarked for the perfect opportunity

Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:16 PM (0 replies)

Oh man, this is gonna be big! Saw it on Wingnut friend's FB page

OUT...OF....CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!! Unreal!!!!!!

America's Freedom Fighters
BLM Rangers Brought in From Out of State for Nevada Ranch ‘Emergency’!



Armed Rangers were brought in from out of state by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to assist in security surrounding the Bundy Ranch, according to the family.
A heated confrontation on Wednesday resulted in Cliven Bundy’s son Ammon being tasered by BLM officials and a 57-year-old protester being shoved to the ground.

Stetsy Bundy Cox, Cliven’s daughter, told the Washington Free Beacon that some of the rangers had Oregon and California license plates.

“You know, some of these guys don’t even know why they’re here,” she said. “A few people have talked to them and they got called in here on an emergency feed and they didn’t know what it was for, it just said they had to be here.”

“They’re almost like a hired gun,” Cox said. “Because what they’re supposed to do is they each have a road, and are told to stay on that road, and they’re supposed to keep people off that road, whatever means possible. That’s their job. They don’t even know how many cows have been gathered.”

The BLM did not respond to requests for comment by press time.

Cox said she spoke with an out-of-state Ranger who was ashamed of his job.

“I actually went and talked to one, he was in the back, nobody was even talking to him. He didn’t say much,” she said. “He had a huge big gun on him, but he didn’t really even touch his gun.”

“I asked him, ‘What are you doing? Do you know what you’re doing? You’re stealing an old man’s cattle, his livelihood. He’s a poor man that doesn’t have anything,’” she said. “And I said, ‘You’re pushing baby cows’—I watched a baby cow not want to move and a helicopter swoop down and honk at him till he had to move.”

Cox said the Ranger said, “No, no, we don’t want that.”

“But I saw it,” she said.

“‘Well, well,’ and he goes, ‘I don’t even want to be here. Do you think my grandfather’s proud of me? You think I like this? You think this is fun for me?’”

“Then what are you doing here?” Cox asked him.

“He said, ‘It’s my job.’”

As of Wednesday, 352 cattle have been removed from the public land ranched by the Bundy family for more than a century. An estimated 200 armed officialshave surrounded the ranch, the culmination of a dispute dating 20 years over “grazing fees” and the protection of the “desert tortoise.”

In a statement Wednesday evening, the BLM and the National Park Service said safety “remains the number one priority for the operation.”

“In recent days, some peaceful protests have crossed into illegal activity, including blocking vehicles associated with the gather, impeding cattle movement, and making direct and overt threats to government employees,” the agencies said. “These isolated actions that have jeopardized the safety of individuals have been responded to with appropriate law enforcement actions.”

“Today, a BLM truck driven by a non-law enforcement civilian employee assisting with gather operations was struck by a protester on an ATV and the truck’s exit from the area was blocked by a group of individuals who gathered around the vehicle,” they said. “A police dog was also kicked. Law enforcement officers attempting to protect the civilian federal employee from the attack were also threatened and assaulted. After multiple requests and ample verbal warnings, law enforcement officers deployed tasers on a protestor.”

The Bundy family posted a statement online that the Wednesday confrontation began after members of the family were taking pictures on an unmarked road of “helicopters running Bundy cattle to death.”

“When we saw the BLM start to surround them we knew they needed our help so we didn’t have a repeat of what happened to Dave Bundy,” they said, referencing their other son’s arrest on Sunday. “We didn’t go there to start a fight we went to stand for our rights, video what was happening and protect those boys and gentlemen.”


http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/04/11/blm-rangers-brought-in-from-out-of-state-for-nevada-ranch-emergency/
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Fri Apr 11, 2014, 11:43 AM (92 replies)

You know, Sarah, the Bill Gates led attack on public education is related..

Bill Gates is leading the way to dismantle public education and replace it with a for profit business plan, one in which he has much to gain financially. "Waiting for Superman" was his pro-charter school propaganda campaign. The entire movie was about Americans not being competitive with the ROW. But the subtext was: Gates is rationalizing why he won't pay American IT workers, engineers, and programmers what they are worth, and in so doing promulgating this phony engineering shortage by convincing America that our education system is broken and that he therefore has no choice but go overseas.

Great thread, thanks for posting it.
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:47 PM (1 replies)

Exactly! Talk about playing checkers (GOTV everybody!) vs 3-D chess!

Thank you for this thread!
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:59 PM (0 replies)

We need a better strategy than GOTV

Talk about playing checkers (Dems) vs 3-D chess (Rs)!
Posted by WhaTHellsgoingonhere | Sat Apr 5, 2014, 02:52 PM (0 replies)
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