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WHAT'S HAPPENING?!?!?!?!??????!!!!!!!1

Thanks to PoliticAverse for the youtube link!

WHAT'S HAPPENING?!?!?!?!??????!!!!!!!1

Thanks to PoliticAverse for the youtube link!

Hm... we're gonna have to make a new "rear view mirror" pic soon.

I COMPLETELY agree with you. I said that because that's the accusation made to anyone who points

out that Bernie is an unknown when they are explaining why Bernie has low polling across the board. We are then accused of saying that PoC are stupid and uninformed. Thank you for proving that is not what we are saying at all.

The fact is that Bernie is not a household name as Clinton is. If he were he would be polling much higher among all racial groups.

Yeah, well, apparently the new talking point is that it doesn't matter what someone did 50 years ago

I've seen that several times in the last couple days.

So then who cares who becomes president if their record means nothing? It's a bullshit talking point. One person I saw say it may be saying it out of anger, but I believe this whole attack on Sanders that has been going on since before the BLM incident is a calculated attempt to take him down on his strength. Swiftboating. Look at how rabid Hillary supporters keep going on about this issue with Bernie. Look at how those who are 'undeclared' in their support never go after Hillary about racial issues even though she ran an ugly race-baiting campaign against Obama. No wonder "the past doesn't matter" is the new talking point.


replying so I can add to journal and find your post.

I responded directly to your post.

You abhor progressives. Got it. That was crystal clear from your last post. And that is the biggest problem. Centrists think they own the Dem Party and if we don't accept what you are willing to allow us we are called whiners. Well, the history of this country is full of rights that were won by those you think will never be satisfied. That's a good thing. As soon as you get complacent the corporatists come in and take things over. And the fight is far from over. Look at all the systemic racism/sexism/homophobia in this country. Should we settle for that? No! We keep fighting. Look at the income disparity. Should we settle for that? No! We keep fighting. That's what democracy is about. You want to sit back and be happy with a few bread crumbs, have at it, but don't chastise people who are continuing to fight for equality and justice for all and who continue to fight for our constitutional rights.

You tell us we will never be satisfied and then tell us we have to be part of some larger movement. We are part of a larger movement. But you resent us for it. I believe it's because you are fine with corporate/RW policy. Progressives are not. Progressives seem to never be satisfied because we have a Dem POTUS who is enacting/enforcing/FIGHTING FOR Republican corporate policy. Why should we be satisfied with that? We should not be and so we continue to fight for what is right for the American people, not for global corporations.

You don't have to beg us to join, we're here, you just happen to be ignoring us. You are so willing to defend Republican policies that we have to kick and scream to even get noticed. You yourself were defending the TPP. That is complete conservative/corporate policy. There is not one thing about it that smacks of the Democratic Party.

If you are going to let the term "woo" upset you enough to discount progressives and dismiss progressives as people who don't volunteer to campaign, etc, then you are doing exactly the opposite of what you claim you want to accomplish. You can't ask us to just fight for what you want, things like the TPP, you will NEVER get a progressive to fight for that. Centrist/RW policy is NOT okay.

We don't want you to beg us to participate - we ARE participating - we want you to stop working to enact centrist/Republican policies and start fighting for what the Dem Party used to stand for, the people. And stop telling us to STFU as Rahm did, and stop telling us we want too much. Fairness and equality and justice are never too much.

It's worse than pathetic. It is vile.

Trying to associate a pic like that to Sanders? She knows damn well that someone who glosses over that OP is going to think he had something to do with that pic.

Fucking disgusting.

Okay, wait... so you want to 'tattle' on Bernie supporters of DU?

You were the one calling Bernie supporters childish all over another thread.

Now, before I continue, I saw this OP on the Greatest Page so that's why I clicked on it. I did not come into the group looking for trouble.

I'll tell you something I see in here though. In the top 8 posts of this Hillary group are two that are complaining about Bernie supporters, this one plotting against them.

In the entire first page of posts in the Bernie group you don't find anything similar at all, they are all about Bernie himself, or something to do with him, but certainly not about Hillary supporters.

A couple weeks ago (I think around then) there was a negative post about Hillary supporters and it was locked and self-deleted and several Bernie supporters, myself included, asked in the OP (and I sent a pm to a host asking for the OP to be deleted/locked) to not do that. As I said, the OP was locked and self-deleted.

I realize the whole Bernie supporters are mean and childish is the new thing on DU, but we are not plotting as a group against Hillary supporters like this OP is. And when there was a negative post about Hillary supporters it was taken down due to the dislike of it, it was not cheered on as this OP is, or the one about Ghadaffi is. We aren't looking at this as a war between supporters as this group seems to based on these two well regarded OPs.

Also, I have had a personal experience with a very active Hillary supporter where they edited a post well after I had replied and they had replied to me again. It was a very dishonest thing to do, editing a post to make it seem that my response was completely wrong. I don't attribute that to all Hillary supporters though. I look at people based on their posts and actions on DU.

How about you do the same and worry about your own OPs and posts and don't look at this as a war between supporters and use this group to plot against the 'others'. To ask what you guys keep asking Bernie supporters.. is this the way you think Hillary would want you to act?

Yes. When I read your post it did not have a comma. You not mentioning that is dishonest.

You edited the post at 3:02pm. Well after your post of 2:42pm that I am now replying to in which you ask if I read your post.

That is very dishonest of you to then question whether I read your post or not, when the post that I read said "no criticism is healthy". You took the time to edit your "no criticism is healthy" post but didn't bother to edit your accusatory post to me. That's really bad form. Did you think I didn't know how to see the post had been edited? Did you think I would forget that there had been no comma before and that in fact you had posted "no criticism is healthy"?

Why would you not just say, "oops, I forgot the comma that's not what I meant to say"? The only reason I can figure is that you are purposely trying to make me look bad. Or after reading my post you changed your mind and didn't want to admit it. Either way, still bad form.

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