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I guess we can call each other trolls now. Or at least the Clinton side.

With due respect, that's a typical bunch of rhetoric. It's real easy to say

that she supports the legalization of marijuana use. She goes way out of her way to not say that. She says "we need an approach" yada yada yada. We don't need an approach, we need straight talk. She would be ok to let allow the states to act as "laboratories of democracy", what does that even mean. She hints that she would favor the federal government leaving states alone as long as they didn't violate some arbitrary guidelines that could be changed and enforced any time wanted. For example, who gets to decide if organized crime is involved or not? Her half-assed stand on medical marijuana use lacks empathy. She wants to "advance research into it's health benefits" while people are suffering. Again, bullshit rhetoric. She does not commit herself at all.

Some will always side with the big power, big money.


Some of us have been fighting against the bullies for most of our lives, in school, in business and now the rich and super-rich, the Oligarchy.

I work at a foodbank and see daily the ravishes from the collateral damage from the rich and powerful looting the lower classes. In the last 30 years the rich and powerful have tripled their wealth while us peons have had to help each other, the poor, our vets, homeless, and seniors. I have family and friends that have lost homes, jobs and retirements thanks to those , living in denial, ignoring the real problem.

I think this race, if won by the wealthy 1% may break the backs of the lower classes and that's why so many of us are fighting so hard. It's literally a war a class war, and if the Oligarchy wins, people will die from lack of proper nutrition and lack of needed health care. More jobs will be lost and wages will go lower. Banks will take more homes and retirements. Most likely there will be another bank realignment where we, the lower 99%, bail them out again.

Clinton doesn't even pretend to want to fix the growing, GROWING wealth gap. Why would she, she has benefited greatly by the system to the tune of $50,000,000. She talks about how growth is needed to help the lower classes. That's code for more of the same crap we've been seeing for the last 30 years. We've had tremendous growth in the last 30 years, but the wealthy have not shared it with us peons. We we need jobs, homes, infrastructure, single payer, and the expansion of Social Security, but most of all we need to stop the looting by the wealthy and start making them pay their share.

Some Democrats that I've spoken to ask why would Democrats side with the big power, big money, over the People, the lower 99%. The same reason they side with the police beating protesters, side with the government when they spy on Americans, side against whistle blowers and investigative journalists, side with Republicons when they invade Iraq, etc. They are authoritarians, raised to revere and never question authority. They can ignore those among us that are suffering and bow to the power. They revere the Clinton Aristocracy and ignore the 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty
Posted by rhett o rick | Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:33 PM (3 replies)

But she is not progressive and she has only given us rhetoric about the wealth

gap. Nothing convincing.

She wasn't progressive when she betrayed the Democratic Party and supported the worst foreign policy mistake in recent history. I say mistake, but actually to all that profited from the IWar, and I suspect she profited indirectly, the war was very profitable.

She is not progressive on these issues:

Strengthening Social Security (e.g., raising the cap)
The job killing "Free Trade" agreements
Fracking for oil company profits over people's water
Help college students afford college (telling them to get a job doesn't cut it)
Making major corps pay their fair share of taxes
Ending the unregulated domestic spying
Drone killing of terrorist "suspects" in foreign lands (100 innocents killed for each suspect)
Reducing the defense budget
Taking a hard stand against torture and indefinite detention.
The militarization of our local police forces.
Ending Prisons for Profits
Legalizing marijuana esp. for medical use.
The need for funding rebuilding our neglected infrastructure.
Single payer health insurance.
Regulation of Wall Street (e.g. reinstate Glass-Steagall)
Breaking up the big bank and media monopolies.
The continuous war in the Middle East
Posted by rhett o rick | Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:30 PM (1 replies)

According to Black Lives Matter, they don't matter to Clinton.

The letter written by Black Lives Activist Ashley Williams is very powerful. It states the case against Clinton quite well.

Here are some important points made by Ms. Williams:

“Here's the truth: the Clinton legacy has left our prisons bursting at the seams. Real lives have been destroyed as a result. It is an indisputable fact that millions of Black people were locked up for drug crimes and provided the bodies for the expansion of the prison industry.

The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.”


“Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.”

Make no mistake, this is Hillary Clinton. She "left our prisons bursting at the seams." She "stripped funding for college education from prisoners." She supported policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.”

This is the Hillary Clinton that some believe will fight for social justice. Some like her because she is tough, well she certainly showed that she is tough against the minority communities. And Cheney was tough. I think compassion and empathy are more important than toughness.

No, looking for a scape goat might be lower. There were a lot of things that went wrong in 2000

and most were illegal. Ralph Nader was doing his civic duty and it was legal. So who should we blame.

In 2000 the DLC run Democratic Party were high on hubris. Continue the DLC rule via Gore or let Bush have it. But the public was tired of the pseudo-Democratic rule of the DLC and Gore couldn't get enough votes to preclude a little cheating. Dame Ralph Nader. No, no, Ralph didn't cheat. Well then why does he get blamed? Because the hubris of those supporting the DLC candidate didn't want to admit they made a Yuge mistake. What happened in Florida was cheating and second in responsibility (after the stupid decision to run another DLC candidate) for the Bush debacle. Then last but not least, the SCOTUS, a body that was not given much power by our founders for a fracking reason, took it upon themselves to decide the outcome of the election. They had no jurisdiction to do this. But the Powers That Be didn't care. Al Gore and the DLC didn't care either, they jumped over the net and shook hands with Bush and they all went out and had a martini. So who should we blame for Bush the Dim-Son?

Here's my list:
1. The damn DLC and their hubris.
2. Jeb Bush and the bullshit in Florida
3. Sandy O'Connor, who decided "to hell with the people, let the Bush Crime Family prevail."

So if it makes you feel better to hate, hate the DLC, Jeb Bush or Sandy O'Connor. They all had some responsibility. Ralph Nader didnt force anyone to do anything. In fact had he not run, you can't convince me that those that voted for him would have voted for Gore. They voted for Nader for a reason. They were saying "frack the DLC".

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or

"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"

That says it very well. If you don't mind I plan on using that quote.

I wanted to add another quote from another poster:

"Take the chance - accept the challenge - join the movement that can Change the Narrative. "

Funny I've posted my opinion of the People's Revolution.

First of all, the Revolution or People's Movement is happening across the world. In Bulgaria people were in the streets protesting the damage that fracking was doing to their environment while SoS Clinton and Chevron were putting pressure on the Bulgarian government to continue fracking. This is an example. In South America the people managed to kick Neslies out because Neslies had taken control of all the drinking water and were ripping off The People for drinking water.

Here in the USofA we have Citizens United that Clinton is embracing and using to raise money to gain the WH. The People are against CU. We want to get Big Money out of politics much to the chagrin of Goldman-Sachs and Clinton.

Here is a partial listing of what we are fighting the Oligarchy over:

We want to Strengthening Social Security (e.g., raising the cap)
We are Opposed to job killing "Free Trade" agreements
We are opposed to fracking for oil company profits over people's water
We want to help college students afford college (telling them to get a job doesn't cut it)
We support making major corps pay their fair share of taxes
We want to end the unregulated domestic spying
Also end drone killing of terrorist "suspects" in foreign lands (100 innocents killed for each suspect)
We are for reducing the defense budget
We are for taking a hard stand against torture and indefinite detention.
We support the end of the militarization of our local police forces.
We want to end Prisons for Profits
We support legalizing marijuana esp. for medical use.
We believe in the need for funding rebuilding our neglected infrastructure.
We support single payer health insurance.
We want to see the regulation of Wall Street (e.g. reinstate Glass-Steagall)
We want to break up the big bank and media monopolies.

I don't speak for The People. The above is my opinion. From the fact that you continually disparage The People's Movement I assume you want to continue the status quo. Goldman-Sachs doesn't care about those living in poverty.

Quid Pro Quo - "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours".

Full definition from Wikipedia:

Quid pro quo ("something for something" or "this for that" in Latin) means an exchange of goods or services, where one transfer is contingent upon the other. English speakers often use the term to mean "a favour for a favour"; phrases with similar meaning include: "give and take", "tit for tat", and "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours".


It seems that since the SCOTUS voted in favor of Citizens United, some Democrats are willing to throw Democratic Principles out the window and embrace political quid pro quo.

It's bad enough when billionaires and big corporations try to influence politicians by giving huge donations to campaigns and “foundations”, but to give money (millions of dollars) directly to the candidate for their own personal fortune it's going way too far.

Clinton would have us believe that the millions given to her by Big Money doesn't influence her positions on issues. Goldman-Sachs gave her over half a million dollars for her personal fortune because they believe she will help them (the very essence of quid pro quo). Clinton would like to say she isn't influenced. That is bunk. Maybe she will argue that she always intended to favor Wall Street and their money doesn't change a thing (influence). Well H. Clinton, the results is the same. The People lose and Goldman-Sachs wins (as does Clinton).

There is a split in the Democratic Party that this primary is shining a lite on. The Progressive Wing wants big money influence out of politics and the repeal of Citizens United, while the Clinton Wing (Conservative Wing) embraces Citizens United and the culture of Big Money corruption of our government.

There is a fine line between quid pro quo and graft which is defined by Wikipedia as:
“a form of political corruption, is the unscrupulous use of a politician's authority for personal gain.”


Democrats have a choice to accept the culture where quid pro quo has given us a disaster in America for those not in the Aristocracy, including 50 million living in poverty; or adhere to Democratic Principles and vote for honesty.

Vote for Sen Sanders and the People's Revolution against corruption in government.

Cross Posted from GD: P.
Posted by rhett o rick | Tue Feb 9, 2016, 11:27 AM (2 replies)

Please don't forget your local foodbank, homeless shelters, and soup kitchens

Foodbanks get most of their donations and attention in the months of Nov and Dec and the least in Jan and Feb. I know we have lots to think about and campaigns to support but please don't forget the homeless and those that rely on foodbanks.

You don't have to give a lot to make an impact.

Please don’t throw away canned food if the pull date has passed. Most canned food remains safe after the pull date. Dented cans are not unsafe. Bulging cans are probably unsafe. If you are in doubt, give them to your foodbank and let them decide. They know best.

I buy up canned foods on sale and keep a supply for emergencies. When they get close to the pull date I donate them and replace them on the shelf.

It always feels good to donate food but donating money is more effective. Foodbanks have access to much better buys on foods than the average consumer. Cash also gives the foodbank the flexibility to buy what they need most.

Some foodbanks need clean glass jars with labels removed for repackaging. They often need boxes, paper sacks and plastic bags. Check with your local foodbank and see what they need. You may be throwing away things they can use.

Don’t forget to volunteer. Even a few hours a week will help.

Some people justify not donating by rationalizing that foodbanks pay their staffs too much. The one I am familiar with is large and has four part time employees earning competitive wages. 75% of the work is done by volunteers. If you have doubts, visit your local foodbank, or better yet join the Board of Directors.
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