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Clarity: We Will Be Funding The Terror Group Who Kidnapped Sotloff, and Asking Them to Fight the

Group they sold him to.

Groups that have already formed alliances with each other.




What could go wronG?



More evidence this is nothing more than the continuation of the neo-con doctrine of perpetual war. Let's stop the cycle of violence now.

25 years in Iraq is enough.




Kidnapping: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/08/steven-sotloff-sold-to-isis_n_5788312.html

Alliance: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014895466

DAY 3: How We Gonna Pay For the New War? (PS - We just spent 2 billion this week in Afghanistan)

... as we do every week.

Syria rebels, IS in “non-aggression” pact near Damascus

BEIRUT - Syrian rebels and jihadists from the Islamic State have agreed a non-aggression pact for the first time in a suburb of the capital Damascus, a monitoring group said on Friday.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the ceasefire deal was agreed between IS and moderate and Islamist rebels in Hajar al-Aswad, south of the capital.

Under the deal, "the two parties will respect a truce until a final solution is found and they promise not to attack each other because they consider the principal enemy to be the Nussayri regime."

Nussayri is a pejorative term for the Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiite Islam to which President Bashar al-Assad belongs.


https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/nowsyrialatestnews/563491-syria-rebels-is-in-non-aggression-pact-near-damascus


Seems like all this is in line with the neo-con plan to take out Assad..... Perhaps all this is really a proxy war against Syria.... Soon, perhaps, we will join ISIS in their fight against Assad.... (maybe give them a new name).

Another report that FSA fighters ('moderate rebels') are joining ISIS:

He added that fighters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), which is opposed to the Damascus regime and the Isis fighters, had "more experience" after more than three years of conflict, but were in dire need of outside support. "We are tired and running out of provisions. Some fighters have changed sides and now fight with Isis simply because they are able to provide food, houses for their families and good weapons."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/syrian-rebels-obama-bombing-wont-deter-isis

Government Threatened Foley Family Over Ransom Payments, Mother of Slain Journalist Says

Obama administration officials repeatedly threatened the family of murdered journalist James Foley that they might face criminal charges for supporting terrorism if they paid ransom to the ISIS killers who ultimately beheaded their son, his mother and brother said this week.

"We were told that several times and we took it as a threat and it was appalling," Foley's mother Diane told ABC News in an interview.

She said the warnings over the summer came primarily from a highly decorated military officer serving on the White House's National Security Council staff, which five outraged current and former officials with direct knowledge of the Foley case also recounted to ABC News in recent weeks.

"Three times he intimidated us with that message. We were horrified he would say that. He just told us we would be prosecuted. We knew we had to save our son, we had to try," Diane Foley said.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/government-threatened-foley-family-ransom-payments-mother-slain/story?id=25453963

FSA ('moderate rebels' to be armed by US) Aligns with ISIS.

BEIRUT: Free Syrian Army commanders around Arsal vehemently deny any involvement in recent clashes with the Lebanese security forces, but admit to cooperating with Islamist groups in military operations along the Syrian-Lebanese border.

Often at odds on the Syrian battlefields, the FSA, Nusra Front and ISIS have entered a tenuous allegiance of convenience to fight Assad-aligned forces in the badlands surrounding Arsal.

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“We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in ... Qalamoun,” said Bassel Idriss, the commander of an FSA-aligned rebel brigade.

“A very large number of FSA members have joined ISIS and Nusra,” Abu Fidaa said. “In the end, people want to eat, they want to live, and the Islamic State has everything,” he said.

Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2014/Sep-08/269883-frustration-drives-arsals-fsa-into-isis-ranks.ashx#ixzz3D80oe0NY
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb)

DAY 2: How We Gonna Pay for the New War? (still waiting for an answer)

Every President in the Past 25 Years has Announced 'We Are Bombing Iraq' in Prime Time.


“Just two hours ago, allied air forces began an attack on military targets in Iraq and Kuwait.”

—President George H. W. Bush
January 16, 1991

“Good evening. Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq.”

—President Bill Clinton
December 16, 1998

“My fellow citizens. At this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.”

—President George W. Bush
March 19, 2003

“My fellow Americans. Tonight, I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.”

—President Barack Obama
September 10, 2014

Every American President in the past quarter century has now gone on television during prime time to tell the nation and the world that he has decided to bomb Iraq. Last night was Barack Obama’s turn, and it was a vexing performance. This is a President who has been stubbornly dedicated to extricating the United States as much as possible from its post-9/11 wars and resisting—in the absence of any good options for decisive action—being drawn into Syria’s catastrophic civil war. “The greatest responsibility I have as President is to keep the American people safe,” he said, two years ago. “That’s why I ended the war in Iraq.” And he repeated that boast last night, even as he told a very different story, effectively declaring a new war of staggering scope and complexity against forces of the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham, and other enemies, in Iraq and Syria—a war that he described as having no end in sight.

MORE: http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/obama-didnt-say

Kohn: Obama can fight ISIS without bombs

MORE: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/11/opinion/kohn-isis-obama/

1. U.S. intervention is what destabilized Iraq in the first place -- and more bombing will likely make Iraq less stable.

Our invasion of Iraq and the installation of Nuri al-Malaki as prime minister reignited deep sectarian tensions and created a power vacuum into which ISIS stepped. You can't save a country by destroying it. A bombing campaign that is perceived as taking the side of Shia Muslims while undoubtedly decimating communities and killing civilians will only worsen Iraq's instability.

2. Airstrikes won't destroy radical ideology, they'll make it worse.

Most would-be terrorists don't wake up one morning and suddenly decide to hate America. Often, there's a reason. In 2006, the classified National Intelligence Estimate found that the 2003 U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq helped create a new generation of terrorists and increased the overall terrorism threat against America. More American military action in the Middle East will just inflame more anti-American terrorists -- which perversely only strengthens the ideology that fuels ISIS and other terrorist groups.

Sen. Manchin (D): “We have proven.. that people we have armed.. have turned those arms against us"

Senator Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) said he will not support a key part of President Obama’s strategy for taking on the Islamic State.

I have a problem with one part, and one part mainly, and that is paying for training and arming Syrian rebels that we’re not sure are our friends,” he said on MSNBC on Thursday. “Right now, I can’t do that — I cannot support arming the rebels who we have not been able to identify.”​

For example, it remains unclear if the rebels sent American journalist Steven Sotloff to his death by capturing him and selling him to the Islamic State, where he was beheaded earlier this month, Manchin explained.

....

“We have proven, for the last twelve years, that people we have trained, people we have clothed, people we have fed, people we have armed turn those arms against us,” he said.


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/387739/manchin-i-will-not-be-voting-arm-syrian-rebels-andrew-johnson
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