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Can you imagine Jimmy Carter going back into Vietnam after we lost that debacle??? Just sayin'... NT

Scientific American: "War Is Our Most Urgent Problem. Let’s Solve It" By John Horgan

My answer to the above question: No, there is no more urgent problem than war. Not climate change, pollution, overpopulation, oppression, poverty, inequality, hunger, disease.

If you seek solutions to any of these problems, you should also devote at least some effort to ending war, for several reasons. First, war exacerbates or perpetuates our other problems, either directly or by draining precious resources away from their solution. War subverts democracy and promotes tyranny and fanaticism; kills and sickens and impoverishes people; ravages nature. War is a keystone problem, the eradication of which would make our other social problems much more tractable.

Second, war is more readily solvable than many other human afflictions. War is not like a hurricane, earthquake or Ebola plague, a natural disaster foisted on us by forces beyond our control. War is entirely our creation, the product of human choices. War could end tomorrow if a relatively small group of people around the world chose to end it.

Third, more than any of our other problems, war represents a horrific moral crime. Particularly when carried out by the U.S. and other nations, or by groups that aspire to or claim the legitimacy of states, war makes hypocrites of us and makes a mockery of human progress. We cannot claim to be civilized as long as war or even the threat of war persists.

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My answer is that nations and other groups should act in a manner consistent with the ultimate goal of eradicating war once and for all. This is what I call the “end-of-war rule,” which I spell out in more detail in The End of War. My own country, the U.S., is the world’s most egregious violator of the end-of-war rule, and not only because over the past dozen years Americans have waged two major wars that have killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. The U.S. also maintains by far the biggest military in the world, in terms of spending, and it is the biggest arms dealer.


http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2014/08/12/war-is-our-most-urgent-problem-lets-solve-it/

FURTHER READING:

The End of War, paperback, forward by Douglas Fry, McSweeney’s, 2014. http://www.amazon.com/End-War-John-Horgan/dp/1938073126/ref=sr_1_1_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407671952&sr=1-1&keywords=the+end+of+war

BREAKING: 100+ US Military Advisers Going to Iraq (New)

On CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/12/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html

ByeBye 2014.

Can we call it an escalation now?

If not, how many advisers and air strikes make it an escalation in Iraq?

I voted for this guy to get us out, now we're going in.

Not happy.

Where is the special tax on the wealthy to pay for this debacle????

Seriously, what happened to the Iraq army we spent trillions on?

I know a bunch of them abandoned their war toys to ISIS, ordered to do so by Sunni generals.... Are some of them ISIS now?

Also, why can't the Kurds defend themselves, didn't we spend ten years and trillions training and equipping them too?

Also, how & why will it turn out different this time?

The root cause of the Yazidi refugees, and what we can do about it:

In my view, the root cause of the situation in Iraq may well be GWB's illegal invasion of Iraq and his subsequent use of torture and other brutal methods to control the population.

I would submit that Obama, if he is indeed concerned about human rights and the plight of the Yazidis, should open an investigation into the war crimes of the Bush era cabal that appear to have caused this whole mess.


Lest we forget: Mission Accopmplished in Iraq, 11 years ago:

We are being attacked by ISIS!

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials


At least that's what I heard on the Sunday morning show.... Here's Peter King from MTP today:

"Every day that goes by, ISIS builds up this caliphate, and it becomes a direct threat to the United States. They are more powerful now than al-Qaeda was on 9-11. So Dick Durbin says we're not going to do this, we're not going to do that. I want to hear what he says when they attack us in the United States."

Certainly OUR military actions have only made the situation worse.

How Long??? "Obama: U.S. airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq a 'long-term project'"

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/10/world/meast/iraq-crisis/

12 years not enough to prove the neo-con doctrine of perpetual war to be wrong?


Seriously, how long this time, folks, 1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 10?

In my view, all our military projection into the region has had one result: it's made the islamicists stronger.

Bombing Iraq. Not what I voted for.

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