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I just spent some time with my responsible-gun-owner sister this week...

and showed her my new FNS-9L. We'll probably hit the range together tomorrow.

And my sister designs safety-critical systems for VERY expensive industrial operations, and I dare say is more competent with a handgun than the average non-enthusiast LEO. Neither one of us has ever shot a car, or a transformer, or our floor, or ourselves. Neither has anyone we know.

The Four Rules of Gun Safety:

(1) Always treat a gun as if it is loaded.

(2) Never point a gun in an unsafe direction. (If you say "But it's OK, it's unloaded", see Rule 1.)

(3) Keep your finger off the trigger unless you are on target and ready to shoot. (If you say "But it's OK, it's unloaded", see Rule 1.)

(4) Always be sure of your target and what is beyond it.


Follow these rules religiously, and you won't alter your or your neighbors' anatomy or knock out power to your neighborhood. Generally speaking, you have to break more than one to have a serious accident, although an egregious violation of Rule 2 coupled with an older defective gun could conceivably cause injury or death. Most cases of "the gun just went off" involve a finger or other object resting on the trigger when it shouldn't be, though.

Court rules that stock-owning churches can't interfere in what Walmart chooses to sell.



Wal-Mart defeats bid for shareholder vote on gun sales

(Reuters) - A federal appeals court on Tuesday lifted an injunction that would have required Wal-Mart Stores Inc to let shareholders vote on a proposal to tighten oversight of its sale of guns with high-capacity magazines.

In a brief order, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals vacated a permanent injunction imposed in November by U.S. District Judge Leonard Stark that would have required a vote at Wal-Mart's annual meeting in June.

Wal-Mart had objected that allowing a vote on the proposal from Trinity Church, a historic church in downtown Manhattan, would "open the floodgates" to more shareholder proposals, and cause excessive interference in day-to-day business operations.

The church's proposal would have required Wal-Mart's board to more closely examine the sale of products that might endanger public safety, hurt Wal-Mart's reputation, or offend "family and community values" integral to Wal-Mart's brand.

(more at link)


A lot of people who cheered this lawsuit apparently didn't consider the ramifications if the church had won its crusade....if it had been Focus on the Family suing to yank Plan B or the pill from store pharmacies, or if a megachurch were buying healthcare stocks in an attempt to limit what reproductive services could be provided by your local hospital or traded-on-the-NYSE clinics, the problem with that approach might not have been overshadowed by the "ZOMG GUNZ!" argument as it initially was in this case.

Given that the church was suing about the least misused of all guns anyway (Walmart sells *only* long guns), this was a quixotic approach from the get-go.

Massad Ayoob (defensive firearms instructor) often recommended

that all civilians wishing to learn to think and shoot well under stress---both law enforcement and ordinary citizens---go participate in some high-pressure dynamic shooting competition. It's not the same level of stress as in a life or death situation, but it is enough stress to reveal holes in your training and to ingrain competent gun handling under stress and very short time constraints. Some notable members of the NYPD Stakeout Squad used to compete in civilian matches on the side to stay sharp (Jim Cirillo comes to mind) and it showed. I've been in the same cohort as a few local and Federal LEO's during some of the local USPSA matches I've shot, as well as some active duty military who recognized that civilian dynamic shooting competitions are a tougher test of pistol or CQB carbine skill than what the known-distance square range stuff they typically got to do on base was.

Finally, since some of the Bloomberg talking points are regurgitated secondhand or thirdhand from Grossman's On Killing et seq, I'll point out that Grossman's teachings on the inability of bullseye shooters to supposedly shoot in life-or-death situations has been called into question---and that even by Grossman's metrics, shooting IDPA/IPSC/USPSA silhouettes or B21's would not fall under that criticism.

The gun control lobby rode #5 and #3 off a cliff

which is pretty much why the gun control lobby is as irrelevant as they are today.

As to #1, that is probably true, but it is not for lack of trying on the gun control lobby's part. Since they are still fighting to ban many of the most popular guns and magazines in U.S. homes.

Ah, William J. Bennett...father of the original Federal "assault weapon" ban. (n/t)

What about small-caliber non-assault rifles

like AR-15's?



Just one more example of just how badly the "assault weapon" fraud of the late 1980s derailed the gun control movement. Rifles are the least misused of all weapons in the United States.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/20tabledatadecpdf

"No one knows, or will ever know who will do something like this."

Actually, prior conviction for a violent crime less than murder is a very good predictor of who will murder. Likewise, a clean record is a pretty good predictor of who won't.

I'm pretty sure the murderer in this case had quite a long criminal record, and I guarantee he didn't have a California carry license.

A firearm without a sound suppressor

is like a car with no exhaust system at all, just open headers.

Firearms sound suppressors are all straight-through designs, like glass packs, so suppressed centerfires are still fairly loud, just not ear-damaging loud. I'm thinking 25 or 30dB reduction would be typical, so a 155dB centerfire might come down to 125-130dB.

I see the media is still under the mistaken impression that M855 is AP.

"certain armor-piercing bullets"

M855 is non-AP, which is why the ATF jumped the shark so badly by trying to ban it. It actually has less ability to penetrate NIJ Level III hard armor (the lowest level of armor rated to stop any rifle round) than regular 55gr FMJ.



5.56mm AP is M995 black-tip, not M855 green-tip. The conflation of M855 non-AP with M995 AP is downright annoying, whether out of ignorance or otherwise.

(M855 is the second round fired in the video above, and could not penetrate the armor.)
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