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Adoption records released

New law allows adoptees to request once-sealed birth records

Video here:


A new law that took effect yesterday unseals the adoption files of some 400,000 adoptees whose Ohio adoptions were finalized between Jan. 1, 1964, and Sept. 18, 1996. Advocates had long pushed for the change, decrying a three-tiered statute whereby records access depended on when the adoption took place.

Now, adults adopted between 1964 and 1996 — the group that had been barred from obtaining their records — can request their files. Such records usually contain the adoptee’s original birth certificate.


The law that kept Ohioans from learning their personal and medical histories was cruel, Vercellotti said, and hollow in its attempt to shield birthparents who didn’t want their identities hidden.


“I don’t know anything,” she said. “But I have no bitterness. I’m just happy that I might be able to get at least a part of me — a piece of my heart that’s been missing for a long time.”

The Ohio Department of Health Office of Vital Statistics at 614-466-2531 or go to www.odh.ohio.gov/en/vitalstatistics/legalinfo/adoptfnl.aspx. Other information: Adoption Network Cleveland, 216-325-1000, www.adoptionnetwork.org; Ohio Birthparent Group, www.ohiobirthparents.org.




Thinking Outside the [Baby] Box: Reframing the issues before imposing another solution

An excellent article from Gazillion Voices about baby boxes in general, and the horrible rw movie about them:

“Imagine a large river with a high waterfall. At the bottom of this waterfall hundreds of people are working frantically trying to save those who have fallen into the river and have fallen down the waterfall, many of them drowning. As the people along the shore are trying to rescue as many as possible one individual looks up and sees a seemingly never-ending stream of people falling down the waterfall and begins to run upstream. One of other rescuers hollers, “Where are you going? There are so many people that need help here.” To which the man replied, “I’m going upstream to find out why so many people are falling into the river.” – Saul Alinsky, in Shelden & Macallair


On March 3, 2015, The Drop Box, a documentary film, was released in select theaters for three days throughout the United States. Directed by American filmmaker Brian Ivie and presented by Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian group, this film tells the story of Korean Pastor Lee Jong-rak who built a “baby box” outside of his home. This baby box makes it possible for anyone, specifically unwed mothers, to anonymously abandon their children. The Drop Box celebrates Pastor Lee’s efforts by presenting a narrative of his life, his rationale behind creating the baby box, and the work he is doing to care for his own adopted children and others he temporarily fosters, mainly children who face mental and physical challenges. As described on The Drop Box’s official website, this film explores “the physical, emotional, and financial toll associated with providing refuge to orphans that would otherwise be abandoned on the streets.” The website points out that this “is also a story of hope—a reminder that every human life is sacred and worthy of love.”


That being said, I also believe The Drop Box presents a limited, distorted, and strategically contrived perspective of the baby box. The baby box is a temporary band-aid fix for systemic problems, and the film does little to address these. The Drop Box glorifies the baby box and, in doing so, exacerbates these problems by presenting child abandonments as inevitable while demonizing unwed mothers. What concerns me is that the film does not examine nor even acknowledge any of the economic, cultural, or social factors that have forced many unwed mothers and vulnerable families into relinquishing their children. What is even more alarming is the film’s inaccurate and harsh portrayal of unwed mothers as potential baby killers or selfish women who will recklessly abandon their children on the side of the road.


The film cites that 60% of the mothers who abandon their children in the baby box are teenagers. They will kill their own babies or leave them on the side of the road if it were not for the baby box.

This citation inaccurately describes, dehumanizes, and demonizes unwed mothers in Korea. According to Dr. Helen Noh of Soongsil University from the Department of Social Work, the average age of unwed mothers who are raising children is 25.1 years, and 77.3% of adult unwed mothers have college degrees. Moreover, according to a New York Times article in 2009, nearly 96% of Korean unwed pregnant women choose abortion. Among the 4% who carry their babies to full term, about 70% are believed to give up their babies for adoption. Though illegal, abortion is widely practiced in Korea. Therefore, it is possible to deduce that a woman who carries her baby to full term has considered the possibility of raising it herself. I want to emphasize that abortion is rarely an alternative to abandonment. Relinquishing a child to adoption or leaving it in the baby box is an alterative to parenting. Baby box abandonment is certainly not the best solution. But to some who are unaware of their rights, options, and obligations, it may seem like the only viable one.


Reclaiming Abandoned Children

According to an article published by SBS (2014), 383 babies or children were left in the baby box between December 2009 and February 2014. Of these 383 babies and children, 120 of their parents returned to the baby box to reclaim them.

The Drop Box highlights the number of children who have been abandoned since the creation of the baby box. However, it makes no mention of parents who returned to reclaim their babies a day, days, or any period of time after leaving their child in the baby box. The fact that 120 parents changed their minds, returned to the baby box, and brought their babies home to raise them, suggests these parents did not have the intention of killing or leaving them on the streets to die. To put it another way, if you build it, they will come. The baby box provides women, who are most likely in an emotionally vulnerable state, with a quick, easy, yet illegal solution to parenting struggles. I believe that many mothers would exercise other options if the baby box did not exist, such as legally giving up her child for ethical adoption or choosing to raise her baby. The baby box facilitates and encourages illegal abandonments. Abandonment is illegal in Korea. A more constructive action would be to educate expecting mothers on their rights, options, and obligations to their children. Additionally, there will always be mothers who are unwilling or incapable of raising their own children. In this case, I support legal relinquishment at adoption agencies, hospitals, police stations, etc., and legal and ethical adoptions.


In Korean adoptee Susan Cox’s essay collection, Voices from Another Place (1999), she writes: “Adoptees are usually identified and defined as children. That we mature, grow up and come into our own wisdom is often not acknowledged. We can and wish to speak for ourselves.” I am a Korean adoptee who has struggled for ten years to obtain my adoption records from Holt, my Korean adoption agency. I have never even been allowed to touch my file. I spent eight years searching for my Korean mother, only to stumble upon what may or may not be her burial site last year. I recognize the challenges she faced as an unwed mother, and the mental health issues that affected my Korean family. I know that I was never an orphan that needed to be saved.

The babies who are left in the baby box are not orphans. Moreover, the baby box is creating a population of people who will never have access to their own information, including personal and medical histories. It is a human right, not a luxury, to know this information. For adult Korean adoptees, birth family searches can be filled with multiple challenges. Some searches may take just a few weeks before adoptees and original families are reunited, while others may span years or even decades and yield few answers. Restricted access to adoption records, incorrect information, and falsified records are some of the obstacles that hinder the reunion process. Children who are anonymously abandoned in the baby box will never have access to their information. Pastor Lee’s intentions are sincere, but the baby box is a temporary solution that facilitates illegal abandonments and grows the population of Korean adoptees who will never have access to their personal histories.

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Although an outstanding article, I cannot understand the respect given to the creators of this film and their horrible ideology. I certainly would never. The baby market craves infants and young children with no history, no link to their family, and to human traffickers baby boxes are a gold mine.

Philomena urges forced adoption victims in Britain to speak out

Philomena urges forced adoption victims in Britain to speak out


The Philomena Project calls on the Irish Government to work with the Supreme Court to reverse a 1998 ruling that adoptees do not always have the right to know the identity of their natural parents.


The law currently prevents both parties from being given any information that could be used to identify one another, Ms Lohan claims.


The lives of vast numbers of those women have been “ruined”, Ms Lohan added.

“You can identify these women at 30 paces,” she told The Irish Post. “There is a frailty and a vulnerability about them because what happened to them has turned them into shadows of themselves.”

Among the many people who have contacted the organisation since the release of Philomena are some who claim they were given no choice about giving up their child for adoption.

“I am aware of a case from the 1970s where a woman in her 20s was locked in a room with a solicitor, a social worker and a nun who all shouted at her and said she could not leave the room until she had signed the papers to hand over custody of her child,” Ms Lohan said.

~more @ link~

We are not what we seem….

We are not what we seem…

Dr. Phil had posted this on his Facebook page about 48 hours ago:

“Working on a show: Should a birth mother retain visitation rights to a child she chose to place for adoption?”

Well, that post has garnered over 14,000 comments and nearly 550 shares….in 48 hours. I have been watching what has been said on that one post since roughly 3 hours after it was posted…. And I am absolutely blown away by what people are saying. Comments referring to relinquishing mothers as “not a mother”, “dysfunctional teen agers”, and a new one for me… “a birthing pod and not a birthing mother”. I have seen them refer to adoptees as “somethings”, “bought and paid for”, and “belonging to” their adoptive parents….their “real mom and dad”. They have called adoptees “chosen”, “lucky”, “special”, and “gifts”. It is enough to make the strongest adoptee or natural mom sick to their stomachs and the weakest end up curled into a fetal position in bed. Talk about a triggering conversation!

We want to believe we are so progressive these days….that society is filled with people who think better of each other…who want peace and love to abound…who understand we are all the same on the inside and we are all equal. Wow! We are SO WRONG! We are still in the dark ages! Like the 1980s group Tears for Fears sang (I heard that one on the radio today)… “…turn your back on mother nature…Everybody wants to rule the world.”

We all want to think that the Baby Scoop Era of the 1950s through the 1970s is so far in the past… that we will never go back there…. but I am not so sure anymore. I think we could see a return to that sentiment at any time…and it scares me. If these kinds of people “ruled the world” there would be no end to the pain and dysfunction because they cannot see the big picture… “married with a lack of vision”. I really thought sentiment had changed…that moms who relinquish were largely no longer thought of as shameful, dysfunctional, twisted, selfish women who refused to keep to societal norms and decency, and who needed to be punished for their wayward ways….AND BOY WAS I MISTAKEN. I saw enough people writing comments that basically expressed sentiment of wanting to punish them to last me a thousand lifetimes! That sentiment is absolutely shamefully alive and well and living in society at large (at least among what I must assume are watchers of the Dr. Phil show).

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It is alarming the things that people say to adoptees and to and about mothers of loss. On one hand you see people begging on line for women to relinquish their children, promising that they will be exalted or something, on the other hand is the reality of how they are treated (once the adoption agencies have their hands on the infants). And be an adoptee who dares to speak about our experience and/or feelings and sweet Jesus, we go from being the "chosen" child to ingrate.

I am very proud of the younger generation coming up that speaks up and out.

Memorial event remembers women incarcerated in Magdalene laundries

Memorial event remembers women incarcerated in Magdalene laundries

MEMBERS OF THE public gathered today in Glasnevin Cemetery in Dublin, to remember and honour all of the women who were incarcerated in the Magdalene laundries.

The annual Flowers for Magdalene event was attended by many who came bearing flowers to place on the graves.


Speaking at the remembrance event Sinn Féin Deputy Leader Mary LouMcDonald said that it was one year after Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s apology to the Magdalene survivors and still many surviving women have been excluded from the redress scheme and just a fifth of the eligible women have yet to receive their payments, she said.


“The nuns have still not apologised, nor will they contribute to the compensation fund,” added McDonald, stating the women should not have to suffer further due to additional delays in the restorative justice process.

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They have not begun the process of apologizing for the children that were stolen from the Irish mothers and sold to be legally adopted.

Chinese police bust four major baby trafficking rings rescuing 382 abducted infants

Chinese police bust four major baby trafficking rings rescuing 382 abducted infants and arresting nearly 2,000 suspects

Hundreds of babies have been rescued by police in China after a crackdown was launched on trafficking infants.

The nationwide bust saw 1,094 people arrested as officers acted on information relating to four major internet-based baby trafficking rings.

China's Public Security Ministry said 382 babies were rescued after four websites were found to be selling children under the guise of adoption.


Hundreds of babies have been rescued by police in China after a crackdown was launched on trafficking infants.

The nationwide bust saw 1,094 people arrested as officers acted on information relating to four major internet-based baby trafficking rings.

China's Public Security Ministry said 382 babies were rescued after four websites were found to be selling children under the guise of adoption.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570484/Chinese-police-bust-four-major-baby-trafficking-rings-rescuing-382-abducted-children-arresting-nearly-2-000-suspects.html#ixzz3QWVQOg3V
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If this story isn't sick enough, read the comment section, where people opine that they would love to take one of the trafficked babies for their own, or the suggestion that adoption laws should be more lax.

Procuring infants and young children for people who desire them is big busine$$, and the black market has always had their hand in the cookie jar.

Home> International American to Face Trial in Guatemala Adoption Case

American to Face Trial in Guatemala Adoption Case
GUATEMALA CITY — Jan 8, 2015, 6:46 PM ET
Associated Press

A Guatemalan court has ordered an American woman to stand trial on charges of participating in illegal adoptions.

The prosecutors' office for human trafficking says the court found sufficient evidence to try Nancy Susan Bailey, who is being treated for high blood pressure at a Guatemalan hospital.

Bailey was apprehended in El Salvador and turned over to Guatemalan authorities at the border between the two Central American countries Dec. 17.

The arrest warrant for Bailey was issued in 2008 and charged her with taking children and putting them up for illegal adoption for fees as high as $40,000.

Bailey founded the orphanage Seeds of Love outside Guatemala's capital in 1996.

Guatemala's International Commission Against Impunity said in a 2010 report that it found 3,342 irregular adoptions, mostly to U.S. couples.

This, unfortunately is not that uncommon among inter county adoptions. It is true, though, that most inter country adoptions "launder" the children to make them seem legal. The reality is that almost every one of these children has family who loves and wants them.

If adoptee where given the right to their own name and family histories child trafficking would significantly decrease. Become involved. Demand human rights for adopted people.

Adoptees "Flip The Script" on National Adoption Month** (Extended Version) ** Please watch-Important

Earlier I posted an abbreviated video on this subject. This video is extended and explains so much in such a short period of time. I could write a post on what each of the women in this video say, I agree to the tee with all of them and would love to expand. If only people actually wanted to hear from adoptees when speaking about adoption...

The conversations that could come from this could be numerous and insightful beyond words. Easy to break down into smaller conversations, and easy for commenter's here to jump into the conversation~you just have to be willing.

Emotional Hearing from Mother and Baby Homes Delegation


Illegal adoption practices including forced separation of mothers from children, vaccine trials on children without consent, and forced labour in terrible conditions were just some of the human rights abuses highlighted at today's hearing.

Several women present were able to give affecting first-hand accounts of their experiences. Particularly disturbing were descriptions of children being forcibly "kidnapped" from their mothers and sold on what was essentially an "adoption market"


The audience also heard from individuals who had been born in to "Mother and Baby Homes". Despite having mothers who wanted them they were treated as orphans and spent the early years of their life in some of Irelands Industrial Schools, many being subjected to both physical and sexual abuse. Others from the Bethany Home Group told of being "farmed out" to work as child labourers.

The Irish State has also been putting many barriers in place for those who wish to track down their parents and siblings whom they were separated from at birth. The documents and records necessary are currently being held by the HSE yet victims are being told they will have to wait 4-8 years before they will have access.

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THIS is women's history. This is NOT a thing of the past, it just has a happier face slapped on it now. Poor and at risk mothers deserve to mother their children, not be preyed upon by a multi-billion dollar adoption industry.

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