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Its ok if you are doing the lord's work.

Posted by Warren Stupidity | Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:06 PM (1 replies)

Dishonesty and thoughtlessness in believers.

I'm on the record here as having made the claim that believers are either dishonest or thoughtless. It is a weak claim, in that there probably exists at least one believer who is neither, and it really only applies to Christians, although it might apply to other faiths as well, I just don't know enough to make that case.

What I actually mean by that claim is this:

1. Christianity in modern times is basically divided into "literalist" and "modernist or liberal" camps. The literalist believe that the bible, or large parts thereof, is the literal and inerrant Word of God, while the modernists believe that the bible is instead a series of metaphorical stories not mean to be taken literally, except for some stories, which are.

2. The literalist position is basically an honest position, by which I mean that many literalists really do believe that the bible is the literal word of god and are not being disingenuous or dishonest when discussing their beliefs. This form of belief is however "thoughtless" in that there is no way to reconcile the massive set of contradictions, impossibilities, and immoral horrors contained within the holy text that is claimed to be the literal word of god. The literalist position, if honestly held, is unconsidered, it is not thought out, it is "thoughtless". There are however plenty of literalists who are simply opportunists who don't believe one damn thing in their holy book, but act like they do for various reasons.

3. The modernist position is basically an intellectually dishonest position, by which I mean that the modernist, when discussing their beliefs, reformulates those beliefs based on the context of the argument. The parts of their holy text that are obviously impossible are recast as metaphors to fit with whatever modern conception of reality they conflict with. The contradictory texts are again reformulated on the fly to deal with the logical absurdities. Pinning down actual beliefs in a modernist is, in my experience, impossible. I don't think the modernist position is an honest one.
Posted by Warren Stupidity | Sun May 4, 2014, 02:49 PM (101 replies)

Trends with benefits, This American Life drinks the kool aide.

I was yelling at my car sound system this morning. The podcast of This American Life was playing the march 22 episode, Trends With Benefits, and it was rightwing radio hour.
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/blog/2013/03/trends-with-benefits-web-extra

The story was the long term upward trend of Americans receiving disability benefits, how they track other trends (unemployment and the de-industrialization of our economy), but beyond the actual facts was an underlying theme of, well, Cadillac Welfare Queen, is what came to mind.

This sentence grabbed my attention:

And it's a deal 14 million Americans have chosen for themselves.

Well no really it isn't. The vast majority of people on disability are people who have not made a choice at all, they have serious physical or mental problems that offer them no choice but to try to get by on the miserable disability stipend.

I wanted to strangle Chana Joffe-Walt, the author of the piece, when I heard that sentence. Interestingly, apparently I was not the only potential neck wringer as the web site notes that sentence has been revised to read

And it's a deal 14 million Americans have signed up for.



Posted by Warren Stupidity | Sun Mar 31, 2013, 08:31 PM (31 replies)

Romney campaign demands debate against empty chair.

The Romney campaign today demanded that the debate format be revised to require that the Obama stand in used at the Republican National Convention be used for the debates. "Governor Romney would be at a severe disadvantage if the Obama chair were switched at the last moment for an actual Obama" noted Rinsed Penis, RNC spokesman. The Presidential Debate Commission has taken this issue under consideration, noting that prior debates also included empty chairs, empty suits, and blank stares.
Posted by Warren Stupidity | Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:19 PM (3 replies)

I think the likelyhood of unmasking trolls in any effective way is now nil.

Posted by Warren Stupidity | Mon Mar 26, 2012, 08:57 PM (0 replies)

politics in the workplace

So this guy wanders over to engineering to strike up a conversation with the local republicans about how gas prices suck and its all Obama's fault and how remember under Bush it was 1.90 blah blah blah...

So I thought about that a bit and pulled up this:
http://www.GasBuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?city1=USAAverage&city2=&city3=&crude=n&tme=72&units=us

and said "hey _____, come over here for a minute."
He wandered over.
" who was president there (summer of '08 4.12)?"
"and what happened there (pointing at the valley of the fall/winter 2008-2009)?"
"like the worst recession since the 30's, huh?"
"that's what Bush handed to Obama. Gas prices are driven by economic activity".

He muttered something about have aconversation with an engineer and they'll pull up a pie chart. "Yeah, don't let the data get in the way of your opinions", I said.

I didn't bring up the part about deregulated commodity speculation, it was over his pay grade.
Posted by Warren Stupidity | Wed Feb 29, 2012, 04:13 PM (0 replies)
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