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A comment about not being able to see an alerted post in-thread or even which

I just served on my first jury and the post could've been innocuous if in one forum, hideable if in another. The reason that was given made me assume it was about Primary Wars, but not being able to see which forum even made me realize that it could've been in another one and perfectly ok (for instance, sports, or the lounge)

I realized that someone could mess with alerting on posts that are ok, but chose a reason that makes it look not ok and get it hidden. It made me put more trust in the alerter in figuring out what the post was, more trust than I am comfortable with.

I hope this makes sense. I wanted to throw this here in ATA since others may feel the same. There will be learning curve here.

Thank you.

Has anyone heard from Rhiannon12866 recently? (got an answer, yes)

Her last post was June 6 in the MIRT forum. Thanks for any info, don't like worrying about DU friends.

How about carrying pepperspray as a safety measure?

This comes after watching the newly released surveillance video of the SPU shooting and how it was stopped (link to du thread below). I am tired of reading (mostly elsewhere) that people need guns to be safe. How about pepper spray or something like that? You still have the problem of random sprayings, and bystanders getting affected, but it seems safer than adding more guns.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027919233

Man arrested after threatening shooting at Seattle mosque

Orlando mass murders had to do with homophobia. Trump and his ilk are encouraging Islamphobia. WTF is wrong with too many people?

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-respond-to-armed-barricaded-man-in-north-seattle/
A 37-year-old man who allegedly threatened to a shooting at a Seattle mosque was arrested Tuesday afternoon following a brief standoff in North Seattle.

According to police, the man had posted threats against the mosque online and later posted that he had purchased an assault rifle and ammunition.

Police went to the man’s apartment in the 11700 block of Greenwood Avenue North and after a brief standoff took him into custody around 3:30 p.m.

There were no reports of injuries....(a bit more @ link)

Do not think about arguing

It was a gun capable of killing many people in a short period of time.

I don't give a flying fuck if the wrong brand name is used. I care less than shit if someone says the wrong layman's term.

Arguing and nitpicking those details tells me a person cares less for the victims than making sure the weapon used is narrowly defined. Yes, those terms matter for legislation, but not on forums, not on Facebook, not to most of us people.

I've seen this across the Internets and it doesn't impress or educate anyone to say in response to "how horrible that all those young people were murdered by a (insert inaccurate layman's term)", to rely "it wasn't a layman's term but an official term".

Too many were killed too fast by a murderous jerk and his gun that could do this.

The names, ages of the victims of the Pulse mass murder

I didn't see this posted, if it is already, please let me know and I'll self delete this. They are adding names.


http://www.cityoforlando.net/blog/victims/
Victims
Posted date: June 12, 2016
On this very difficult day, we offer heartfelt condolences to today’s victims and their families. Our City is working tirelessly to get as much information out to the families so they can begin the grieving process. Please keep the following individuals in your thoughts and prayers. #PrayforOrlando

The below list of individuals includes victims who have lost their lives during the early morning incident, and next of kin have been contacted. As we continue to reach out to the families of victims, we will continue to update this post.

Edward Sotomayor Jr., 34 years old

Stanley Almodovar III, 23 years old

Luis Omar Ocasio-Capo, 20 years old

Juan Ramon Guerrero, 22 years old

Eric Ivan Ortiz-Rivera, 36 years old

Peter O. Gonzalez-Cruz, 22 years old

Luis S. Vielma, 22 years old

Kimberly Morris, 37 years old

Eddie Jamoldroy Justice, 30 years old

Darryl Roman Burt II, 29 years old

U.S. officials: No evidence of direct Islamic State link to Orlando shooting

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-islamic-state-eviden-idUSKCN0YY0Q2
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The FBI official cautioned, however, that proving the suspected link to radical Islamism required further investigation.

Three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation into the massacre said that no evidence had yet been found showing a direct link with Islamic State or any other militant group.

There is “no evidence yet that this was directed or connected to ISIS. So far as we know at this time, his first direct contact was a pledge of bayat (loyalty) he made during the massacre," said a U.S. counter-terrorism official, referring to a 911 call the suspect made on Sunday.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity.

A U.S. intelligence official said it was not unexpected that Islamic State would claim responsibility given that the group has been suffering serious losses of fighters and territory in Iraq and Syria. "The fact that a website connected to Daesh applauded it doesn't mean anything," said the U.S. intelligence official, using an Arabic language acronym for Islamic State. "They are losing on their home turf, and it's not surprising if they're looking for some kind of twisted victory."...

Hate speech. Gun access. Fundamentalism of all sorts.

Deaths. Pain. Sorrow.

Rumors. Anger. Rage.

Pain. Sorrow. Grief.

How. To. Stop?

In shock, grieving, waiting for the facts of who and why vs jumping on rumors

Rumors abound and rather than angrily jumping on any that fit my viewpoint, am doing the extremely difficult thing of being very very sad.

So many things could've, have, factored into this. How people react now will also show factors, guns, RW hate speech, fundamentalist extremism religions, etc etc etc.

You can bet I'm not going to let this fade away.

But for now, there will be rumors which will make it easy to hate some group, but I'm staying in sorrow until more is known.

What the FUCK is wrong with too many people? Be kind, spend time with you loved ones.

The trans bathroom flap reminds me of not allowing gay people in the military or public showers crap

What woman can pee if she thinks a man might peek through the gap in the door? And they might be assaulted!!!!!1111

We can't allow gays in the military or in showers because they might peek!!!!11111 Or might assault me!!!111

I am probably phrasing this wrong, and apologize in advance for that, but it reminds me of that.

Just get over it, people, is my advice. The problem is not gender or sexual orientation but people being afraid or acting like jerks.

Posted by uppityperson | Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:48 PM (3 replies)
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