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Name: Steve
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Hometown: Florida
Home country: USA
Current location: USA
Member since: Sat Oct 16, 2004, 01:04 PM
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off-topic anecdote about AA

In about 1984, when I was young and naive and in grad school, I called up the local AA support line to find a meeting I could go to for my research requirement for a class. The guy on the phone told me, go to location X. Ok, I thanked him and went to location X at the prescribed time.

I went into the meeting room and it was filled with all men. Coffee pot, steel folding chairs, filled to capacity pretty much. Location X is in a semi-tony suburb of my birth town, so there was every stratum of humanity there. I don't remember seeing a single woman there.

The meeting got under way and the men began to say the archetypal "Hi, I'm Joe and I'm an alcoholic" type of introduction, and then tell their story. This went on for about 30 minutes or so, so I heard several stories. Of course, I could not tell you today who they were even if they shook my hand.

The leader of the meeting looked around and spied me in the back. I was obviously a newcomer. He called on me and asked me if I wished to speak. I said " Hi, I'm Steve and I'm not an alcoholic but I'm here to do a bit of research. I'd like to talk to some of you." Words to that effect.

A hush fell over the room. I was hustled out of there faster than you can say HUZZAH. It was a polite hustling, though. A couple of men said, um, you were given a CLOSED meeting, and not an open meeting where everyone can come and ask questions. I was very embarrassed, apologized profusely and promised gravely not to compromise anyone's confidentiality. Satisfied with that reassurance, they bid me good luck and went back into the meeting.

MORAL OF THE STORY: All AA meetings are NOT alike. MOST of them are closed to alcoholics or people who may think they are alcoholics. If you simply want information, go to an OPEN meeting. Make sure you make that 10000% obvious to the person on the phone if you call them. It's obvious the guy on the phone did not understand what I wanted, or it's also possible I was not clear enough.


Miami City Officials Call For End To Ultra Music Fest


MIAMI (CBS4) – Sunday is day three of one of the biggest electronic music events in the country.

Some city officials, however, are calling for the end of the Ultra Music Festival in downtown Miami after Contemporary Services Corporation guard Erica Mack was trampled Friday night while trying to stop a group of people who didn’t have tickets who stormed a fence to get inside. Mack, 28, was listed as “critical” but stable at Jackson Memorial Hospital with severe brain hemorrhaging.

“She was not strong enough to deal with a mob of people that actually pushed this fence down, pushing her backwards and the fence landing on top of her. Now these people started trampling on top of her just to get into the event, as a result she sustained major head trauma as well as a broken leg,” said Miami Fire Rescue Lt. Ignatius Carroll.

“What happened this weekend is an event that could have been avoided,” said Miami Mayor Tomas Regalado on Sunday. “The organizers of Ultra did not follow the police directive to re-enforce the fence, even though they knew that this year, and the year before, some kids have tried to over run the fences.”

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good for you, I honor you for your service

You're still wrong. We got involved in a CIVIL WAR. The VN war was a complete clusterfuck. I can't believe I'm arguing this on DU. Absolutely amazing. Fuck the treaty. We intervened on the side of the corrupt Diem government in a CIVIL WAR.

I see you're not willing to face all of DU with your argument. Telling. You must not really believe it with all your heart.

my last word on this

If a VN veteran is going to be absolutely belligerent that the VN war was right..and do it in public..then yes...free speech...tough shit to him. You get really outspoken in public, someone is going to call you out. Fact. THIS....was what my post was about. Again, I'm not an asshole, despite what you're trying to imply here.

Otherwise...I say absolutely nothing in public or even in private. I have the utmost respect for the veterans. I'm already detecting that the VN war is a forbidden topic in public. It's like religion and politics. Someone is going to get offended. Have a nice day.

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question about the VN war and its veterans

Not a troll post, honest.

Like most DU'ers, I do a differentiation between civilian leadership and the active duty military. I reserve the right to criticize the civilians, but I don't criticize the active duty military or the veterans. Like most of DU (or all of DU, haven't done a poll), I think the civilian leadership made a mistake going into VN, especially after the bogus Gulf of Tonkin incident.

Question: How does one, in public, make that point known to a VN vet without being disrespectful to the vet ? Some vets, in my experience, seem to take it pretty personally. I've never said anything critical of an individual vet, but yes, I've expressed my opinion of the war.

Maybe I should just avoid the topic from now on.

Thanks, Steve

ETA: I'm referring to outspoken war hawks in public with the VN war. I routinely say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, in public or private.

ETA2: Ok, I'm never discussing it again with anyone in public. No one. I probably won't even discuss it in private. Super toxic issue, just like abortion.

Nation by nation, speak your mind about....the Socialist Republic of Vietnam


Vietnam (Listeni/ˌviːətˈnɑːm/, /viˌɛt-/, /-ˈnćm/, /ˌvjɛt-/; Vietnamese pronunciation: ( listen)), officially the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV; Cộng hňa Xă hội chủ nghĩa Việt Nam (About this sound listen)), is the easternmost country on the Indochina Peninsula in Southeast Asia. With an estimated 90.3 million inhabitants as of 2012, it is the world's 13th-most-populous country, and the eighth-most-populous Asian country. The name Vietnam translates as "Southern Viet" (synonymous with the much older term Nam Viet); it was first officially adopted in 1802 by Emperor Gia Long, and was adopted again in 1945 with the founding of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh. The country is bordered by China to the north, Laos to the northwest, Cambodia to the southwest, and the South China Sea to the east. Its capital city has been Hanoi since the reunification of North and South Vietnam in 1976.

The Vietnamese became independent from Imperial China in AD 938, following the resounding Vietnamese victory in the Battle of Bạch Đằng River. Successive Vietnamese royal dynasties flourished as the nation expanded geographically and politically into Southeast Asia, until the Indochina Peninsula was colonized by the French in the mid-19th century. Following a Japanese occupation in the 1940s, the Vietnamese fought French rule in the First Indochina War, eventually expelling the French in 1954. Thereafter, Vietnam was divided politically into two rival states, North and South Vietnam. Conflict between the two sides intensified, with heavy intervention from the United States, in what is known as the Vietnam War. The war ended with a North Vietnamese victory in 1975.

Vietnam was then unified under a Communist government but remained impoverished and politically isolated. In 1986, the government initiated a series of economic and political reforms which began Vietnam's path towards integration into the world economy. By 2000, it had established diplomatic relations with most nations. Since 2000, Vietnam's economic growth rate has been among the highest in the world, and, in 2011, it had the highest Global Growth Generators Index among 11 major economies. Its successful economic reforms resulted in its joining the World Trade Organization in 2007. However, the country still experiences high levels of income inequality, disparities in access to healthcare, and a lack of gender equality.

Never been here. It would be fascinating to go, since I heard about it every night on the news for many years. Anthony Bourdain absolutely loves Vietnam.

you have entered....

Five Steps to Mitigate Risks After Windows XP Security Updates End


*very heavily edited*

Limit access by other machines in your environment.

Reduce the privileges of your existing user accounts

Use an up-to-date browser (duh)

Read email in an updated browser (another duh)

Always monitor your systems

IT people, feel free to chime in, as always.

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