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I had forgotten what it was like.

First off does anyone know of a person that is like me, who grew up straight but then turned gay and then turned straight again.....all without her permission? That is truly what happened to me. I supposed if I had been in a repressive society I would have kept my gay feelings to myself and lived a straight lifestyle all the way through but the fact that I actually thought I was gay at around age 27 - 36 and then started being attracted to the opposite sex again was not only disconcerting at the time but still confuses me. And I have never met anyone else who has had the same experience. And it is not like I am completely straight right now because there are some women who can still, "do it" for me, if you know what I mean.

Anyway that is only part of what I wanted to write. I made the mistake of befriending a girl who is a born again X-ian. She never really talked about it much and didn't push it on me so I thought it was OK. We had a lot of fun together. But one day she invited me to meet her other friend, also a born again X-ian, and there was a "discussion" between that friend and me. It was a little heated. At some point my friend said, "Well I don't believe gay people should be able to get married." So I said, "Why shouldn't they have the same rights as you have?" And she said nothing.

Anyway about a week went by and then all of a sudden my "friend" stopped returning my phone calls, and actually did not show up when we were supposed to get together for lunch. I was upset and confused but I had no idea what her real problem was.

So I ended up calling her on my old cell phone, the number of which I think she did not know, so she picked up the phone. And when I asked her why she was ignoring me she said it was because of my past relationships with women, (I had emailed her after the "discussion" with her friend and told her about me).

I cannot begin to tell you how hurt I feel. It sent me right back to a place when I was in this treatment center and none of the girls wanted to share a room with me, (at that time I was calling myself gay). The pain is so deep. I must not have enough acceptance for myself or something. And I only have gay friends now that I can talk to on the phone because I have moved and don't have a support system.

And I work with this narrow minded hypocrite and now I want to punch her in the head. It is so uncomfortable having to see her. I've said some nasty things to her which I know only makes me look bad and doesn't help the situation.

Oh, she did call me once and apologized for saying what she said, (the phone call was in regards to something else) but when I took someone else's advise and asked her if we could get together and talk she just made excuses. So she can take that apology and shove it up her ass as far as I am concerned because it means nothing.

How do you deal with it? I don't think I ever did deal with the initial rejections or even childhood rejections. I spoke to a social worker and he said that I must still have unresolved issues from the past to have such a strong reaction to her rejecting me now. And trust me, I had no sexual or romantic feelings for her at all. I was just happy to have a friend and we had a lot of fun times and now I lost that and all because of the essence of who I am.

I got this in the mail and was wondering if anyone used their service - CREDO moble

Yes it is the same Credo the fights for progressive causes and now they have a cell phone. They are offering 40% off your monthly voice fee for a year with a 2 year service agreement. And they will pay up to $350 to buy you out of your old plan.

Just curious is anyone has this or knows about it. I need to change plans soon and get the Hell rid of Verison.


Since the dog show was just on I'd like to bring up something that has been bothering me for awhile.

Years ago I worked for a breeder of Corgis for a short time. (I needed some extra cash). When the dog and cat over population is talked about all that is ever mentioned is backyard breeders, never breeders who take their animals to shows. These people always had a dog going to shows and their dogs sold for about $1,400 way back 10 years ago.

There are a few things. First these dogs went from their dog crates, (regular crates like you would put a dog when you carry them in an airplane) to their runs and back again daily. Rarely did they ever get to play in the grass. Rarely did they ever get to socialize. If they did it was to procreate. They had a treadmill in the area where all the dog crates were so I assume that is where the trainer trained them, (I was not there long enough to see that).

There was always litters of puppies at various stages of growth. Unfortunately I only was there about 3 months so I did not get to see what happened to all of the dogs once they grew up.

When I read about the Red Mastiff that sold for 1.6 million I wondered how many mastiffs had to be born to get that one perfect dog. And what happened to the others?

I am beginning to think that our kennel associations, in the quest for the "perfect" dog and cat are a big part of the problem because they encourage these owners to breed and breed looking to "the one".

And then I think of my dog Paco and how he could have just as easily been bred at one of these places. (He just looks very much like a picture of a Chihuahua and has all the Chihuahua qualities) Peanut on the other hand came from a hoarder and she has green eyes and looks less "Chihuahua". I could care less because my heart belongs to both of them but what if Paco came from some fancy dancy place and just didn't measure up? How do we know they don't sell their dogs to pet stores?

I guess what I am getting at is are we giving these kennel clubs too much of a pass? I hate their emphasis on the "perfect" dog or cat. What the Hell is that anyway? And has there ever been enough investigation into exactly what goes on in "high class breading". I had my own tiny investigation and I don't have good news. I am so sick of seeing animals with no homes. It just breaks my heart. Maybe there is another culprit that has not even been looked at?

Just my two cents for today.

Anyone hear that person yelling out "YEA" and other things while the President is speaking?

It sounds like Nugent or is it just I expect it to be him?

I hate these hearts. It makes me feel like we are in high school and the cool people are

walking around with a bunch of stars and the not cool one, like me, have a pitiful one star that she got when in a discussion about whether or not you were given a star just for donating, (which you are not, which I pointed out because I had no stars at that point and someone gave me a heart)

So I go around and it seems like people are on American IDOL or something and me with my little star feels like I don't want to start threads now or post so much because I'm feeling a little......un-liked.

And don't anyone give me a damned heart because I wrote this. I am not looking for stars but for discussion.

I've been reading about Congress's powers regarding the Post Office and I see no instance where

they are allowed to "make the post office collect money" for anything. Here is the Wiki article for it.


And this is from the Supreme Course Center:


"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads".

We all know that they set up this back breaking funding that the Postal Service has to pay in order to.....break their backs so they will end up going under.

The question is, is it legal for them demand those monies be collected in the first place? I can find no section where Congress can dictate to the Post Office what monies it has to take in.

Anyone else know anything about this?

Some of the pro-gun people on here make the place look like Free Republic. Not good.

I made the mistake of responding to a couple of posts yesterday and everyone of my posts was responded back to with more pro-gun blather. It really looks like Free Republic people talking points. I don't want to discuss guns here. I am talking about the people. They are always jumping for a fight - just like Free Republic. They are 2nd Amendment lunatics - just like Free Republic. They are angry - just like Free Republic.

They use their knowledge in firearms to look like they are knowledgeable about social issues, which is no measure. They use the forum to post about their knowledge about firearms and/or the fact that they carry a concealed weapon as if they are trying to impress someone, (I am not impressed).

They post like they have an agenda which does not conform to the general DU posting requirements in our rules section. But they get away with it.

I wish someone would come up with a way to rid the forum of these people.

I hope these posts is not deleted. If it is I will re-write it and post it again differently.

GOP Rep. blames gun violence on "Welfare moms" and them "frauding" disability for their kids.


Rep. James Lankford (R-OK), the fifth-ranking House Republican, laid the blame for gun violence at the feet of an unusual suspect: the children of “welfare moms” who commit fraud.

In a meeting with constituents earlier this month in Oklahoma City, a woman asked the GOP congressman what he was doing to combat all the children who were committing gun violence because they were high on psychotropic drugs. Lankford replied that he “agree with that” and then went on to blame Social Security disability fraud for the rash of gun violence around the country. “Quite frankly some of the overmedication of kids are because welfare moms want to get additional benefits,” Lankford said:

CONSTITUENT: My question is regarding the guns and is Washington at all aware of the psychotropic drugs that these children are taking? I guarantee it 100 percent that’s our big problem.

LANKFORD: I agree with that. I think there’s a bunch of issues that, quite frankly, most liberals are afraid to talk about. Where are we on all those psychiatric drugs? We’ve overmedicated kids. Quite frankly some of the overmedication of kids are because welfare moms want to get additional benefits and if they can put them on SSI through maintenance drugs, they can also put them on Social Security disability and get a separate check. That is wrong on every single level. Not only is it fraudulent to the government, but it also tells a kid with great potential, “don’t try because you’re disabled.”

A quote from Marianne Williamson that I think belongs on this board

Cynicism is just an excuse for not helping.

Marianne Williamson

Unbelievable ad by Christian right against contraceptives

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