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Karl Rove: Pointing Out Bush Administration WMD Lies Is An 'Old Argument' We Waste Time On

Karl Rove: Pointing Out Bush Administration WMD Lies Is An 'Old Argument' We Waste Time On

Rove decided to throw in a new twist on Bill O'Reilly's show this Monday and be completely dismissive of the fact that they lied to us about whether Saddam had WMD's. Here he is arguing against a giant straw man on the left that only exists in Turdblossom's mind.

O'REILLY: Our pals over at MSNBC are blaming you and Bush for the whole thing. You know that. We shouldn't have gone there. If we didn't do it, we wouldn't have this and on and on.

ROVE: I notice that the MSNBC crowd is not critical of the two Secretaries of State who served President Obama, Secretary Clinton and Secretary Kerry, both of whom voted for the authorization of the use of force against Iraq. I think it might be sort of selective outrage at the Republicans who supported Iraq (crosstalk).

O'REILLY: But that's because you and President Bush fooled the world by consciously saying there were weapons of mass... look, you have to understand what this is. The far left says that you and Bush and everybody involved with this, did it on purpose, that you knew there weren't weapons of mass destruction and you said it anyway. That's their... and they're never going to get out of that. But I'm just pointing it out... (crosstalk)

ROVE: Yeah, that's an old argument that we waste time on because people on the other side who have looked at this say the intelligence came to the same conclusion, including people like Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton...

O'REILLY: And Bill O'Reilly as well.

We should have been looking back and prosecuting these guys for war crimes, but the Democrats gave them a pass. How's that working out for you now?


Toles: "I Think We Have Located Iraq's Weapon Of Mass Destruction..." (-in plain sight all along)


ROBERT FISK: Bush and Blair said Iraq was a war on Islamic fascism. They lost

Iraq crisis: Sunni caliphate has been bankrolled by Saudi Arabia


From Aleppo in northern Syria almost to the Iraqi-Iranian border, the jihadists of Isis and sundry other groupuscules paid by the Saudi Wahhabis – and by Kuwaiti oligarchs – now rule thousands of square miles.


The story of Iraq and the story of Syria are the same – politically, militarily and journalistically: two leaders, one Shia, the other Alawite, fighting for the existence of their regimes against the power of a growing Sunni Muslim international army.


We will all be told to regard the new armed “caliphate” as a “terror nation”. Abu Mohamed al-Adnani, the Isis spokesman, is intelligent, warning against arrogance, talking of an advance on Baghdad when he may be thinking of Damascus. Isis is largely leaving the civilians of Mosul unharmed.

Finally, we will be invited to regard the future as a sectarian war when it will be a war between Muslim sectarians and Muslim non-sectarians. The “terror” bit will be provided by the arms we send to all sides.

the rest:


Most Admired: 42% Bill Clinton, 18% Barack Obama, 17% GWB, 16% George H Bush

Forty-two percent of respondents picked Clinton -- whose wife could very well run for the White House in 2016 -- as the president they admired the most.

He was followed by current President Barack Obama at 18 percent, George W. Bush at 17 percent and his father, George H.W. Bush, at 16 percent.

The NBC/WSJ/Annenberg Survey was conducted June 2-8 of 1,031 registered voters.


Obama likens denying climate change to thinking the moon is made of cheese

During a commencement speech to graduates of the University of California-Irvine, Obama said some in Congress duck the question of climate change by claiming that they are not a scientist, which, he said, translates to: “I know that manmade climate change really is happening, but if I admit it, I’ll be run out of town by a radical fringe that thinks climate science is a liberal plot. So, I’m not going to admit it.”

That view, the president said, is a “fairly serious threat to the future,” but “at least they have the brass to say what they actually think.”

“I’m telling you all of this because I want to light a fire under you,” Obama told nearly 8,600 graduates at Angel Stadium of Anaheim. “As the generation that is being shortchanged by inaction, you do not have to accept that this is the way that it has to be.”

Scientists, Obama said, have long established that the world needs to fight climate change. When President John F. Kennedy wanted to send people to the moon, Obama said, many said it wouldn’t work, but few denied its existence or said the moon was “made of cheese.”


New Rule

Rule: where available, all 2014 Iraq punditry must be accompanied by link(s) to the author's 2002/3 Iraq punditry.

Sr NSA Executive: NSA Started Spying On Journalists in 02 … In Order to Make Sure They Didn’t Report

Senior NSA Executive: NSA Started Spying On Journalists in 2002 … In Order to Make Sure They Didn’t Report On Mass Surveillance

THOMAS DRAKE: Part of what I discovered is that part of the surveillance system, part of the Stellar Wind system – and that’s an umbrella term in itself – there were offshoots of that.

It metastasized. It grew like a cancer on the body politic.

One of the things that was done was (along the lines of): “You know what? We’ve got to make sure” (because they were paranoid) “we’ve got to make sure that this stuff doesn’t get out … oh yeah, the press. Let’s violate the Fourth Amendment and just monitor the press.”

The whole story of that has not come out.


There was a program called “First Fruits”. They’ve no doubt changed the name of the program

And that First Fruits program was a cutout which was designed from all of the domestic surveillance take. “Let’s just pipe off from all” that is involving designated (reporters) … or in some cases whole groups of reporters and journalists:

So you’re targeting actual newspapers. You’re targeting media outlets.

And you’re monitoring – on a persistent basis – their communications.

WASHINGTON’S BLOG: How early did that start?

THOMAS DRAKE: The preliminary version of that – as far as an active program – was in 2002.


Map: All the Countries John McCain Has Wanted to Attack

Map: All the Countries John McCain Has Wanted to Attack
Syria, Iraq, Russia, North Korea, and nine other nations the Arizona senator has been eager to bomb, invade, or destabilize.
—By Tim Murphy and Tasneem Raja | Fri Sep. 6, 2013 6:00 AM EDT


Well This Is Nuts --- RNC will attempt to beat Hillary with GIANT RED SQUIRREL.

The RNC's Newest Anti-Hillary Weapon Is a Giant Orange Squirrel
Meet HRC Squirrel. It has its own Twitter account:

And the Republican National Committee was there to respond. Rival political factions turning up at events isn't a rare occurrence, but the RNC unveiled a new strategy with an…interesting bent. It was the debut of the HRC Squirrel: A person walking around in a bright orange squirrel suit. Tailed by four RNC staffers, the squirrel wandered around giving high-fives to the folks in line, who generally seemed to get a kick out of the odd scene. The squirrel has a Twitter handle and a donation page where anti-Clintonites can get bumper stickers that say "Another Clinton in the White House is Nuts."

That nutty joke was the gist of the attack, making it a little unclear that the furry was there to rebuke the attendees' favorite Democrat.

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