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LETTER From Obama "Specifically To Inform Congress" of NSA Spying-WITHHELD By House Intell Committee

A letter drafted by the Obama administration specifically to inform Congress of the government’s mass collection of Americans’ telephone communications data was withheld from lawmakers by leaders of the House Intelligence Committee in the months before a key vote affecting the future of the program.

The February 2011 document was declassified last month and has been cited repeatedly by administration officials and legislative leaders as evidence that the surveillance program had been properly examined by Congress as part of an aggressive system of checks and balances.

The National Security Agency offered these comments on The Post’s story on privacy violations.

A cover letter to the House and Senate intelligence committees that was sent with the document asked the leaders of each panel to share the written material with all members of Congress.

Ronald Weich, who was an assistant attorney general at the time, wrote that making the material available to Congress would be an “effective way to inform the legislative debate about reauthorization” of the provision of the Patriot Act that served as the legal basis for the phone surveillance. A similar document was available to all members of Congress in 2009, prior to a 2010 reauthorization vote.



Anything else is Kabuki Theater, IMHO

The data collection and dossier-building on hundreds of millions of Americans needs to stop. The militarization of police forces needs to end. All collected data needs to be destroyed. The revolving-door corruption that has created a veritable Corporate/Security State Frankenstein needs to be smashed, and replaced with a firm wall of separation between profit-seeking corporatist hucksters and those who are entrusted to protect and serve and to defend the Constitution.

Anything else is Kabuki Theater, IMHO

NSA Spying: The Three Pillars of Government Trust Have Fallen

"The obscure we see eventually. The completely obvious, it seems, takes longer." -- Edward R. Murrow (1908-1965)

NSA Spying: The Three Pillars of Government Trust Have Fallen
EFF, August 15/13

First, the Executive. After a review of internal NSA audits of the spying programs provided by Edward Snowden, the Post lays out--in stark detail--that the claims of oversight inside the Executive Branch are empty.

Second, the FISA Court. The Post presents a second article in which the Chief Judge of the FISA Court admits that the court is unable to act as a watchdog or stop the NSA's abuses: "The FISC is forced to rely upon the accuracy of the information that is provided to the Court," its chief, US District Judge Reggie B. Walton, said in a written statement.

Third, the Congress. Last week, Representative Sensenbrenner complained that "the practice of classified briefings are a 'rope-a-dope operation' in which lawmakers are given information and then forbidden from speaking out about it."

The three pillars of American trust have fallen. It's time to get a full reckoning and build a new house from the wreckage, but it has to start with some honesty.

MORE (supporting links):

Reagan Was An FBI Informer (reporting other actors whom he suspected of subversive activities)

Rosenfeld's book, Subversives: The FBI's War on Student Radicals and Reagan's Rise to Power, is now out in paperback. It details how the FBI employed fake reporters to plant ideas and shape public opinion about the student movement; how they planted stories with real reporters; and how they even managed — with the help of then-Gov. Ronald Reagan — to get the UC Berkeley's President Clark Kerr fired.

To research the book, Rosenfeld pored over 300,000 pages of records obtained over 30 years from five lengthy Freedom of Information Act lawsuits against the FBI.

The records "show that during the Cold War, the FBI sought to change the course of history by secretly interceding in events, by manipulating public opinion and taking sides in partisan politics," Rosenfeld says.

For me, one of the gems of that report was learning that Reagan was an FBI informer:

Starting in Hollywood in the 1940s, Ronald Reagan developed a special relationship with the FBI. He became an FBI informer, reporting other actors whom he suspected of subversive activities, and later when he became president of the Screen Actors Guild, the FBI had wide access to the Guild's information. At one point, the Guild turned over information on 54 actors it was investigating as possible subversives.

This is not about speed skating.



This is not about speed skating.

It's about saying Fuck No.

How can you have a friendly sports competition in a country where people JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE can GET THE SHIT BEATEN OUT OF THEM FOR BEING WHO THEY ARE where THE THUGS GET PRAISED AND NOT SENT TO JAIL?

Baffled why this is even a question.

No. No. No.

This is not "politics."

This is "we will not negotiate with thugs."



more, not about speed skating HERE:

Sargent asks: "IS NOTHING SACRED?"

But of course, who knows how long the problem of annoying ads has been with us?


The REAL News


"When dealing with terrorism, the consideration of civil and human rights are not applicable..."

Unlike some governments, the Egyptian government isn't afraid to tell it like it is:

The Egyptian Ministry of Interior, which oversees the police, announced that they would be issuing their officers live ammunition, with standing orders to shoot anyone who attempted to take over government buildings. A spokesman for the Egyptian Ministry of Defense, Ahmed Ali, told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday that the security forces would continue to use all means at their disposal to quell protests and unrest. "When dealing with terrorism, the consideration of civil and human rights are not applicable," he said.


"a frog placed in water that is brought to a boil...will make no attempt to escape"

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