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No such thing as a good kill...

the terminology itself is revolting.




The rally, which drew only two non-white participants, also focused on the theme of “innocent until proven guilty,” and to illustrate this, most of the people interviewed by Dalrymple were quite certain that Michael Brown was a violent thug who assaulted Wilson, who had no choice other than to shoot him to death:

“We’ll all see this in the end that it was a good shooting. You know, it was a good kill,”

said Tina Morrison, a former Ferguson resident, pictured with the pink sign up top.

Read more at Wonkette: http://wonkette.com/558148/dozens-rally-in-st-louis-to-declare-we-are-all-a-cop-who-killed-an-unarmed-teen#ixzz3BSbDzZqC
Read more at http://wonkette.com/558148/dozens-rally-in-st-louis-to-declare-we-are-all-a-cop-who-killed-an-unarmed-teen#x1sv8uv6yF8b0fWX.99


Really? a good kill.

either every life is precious or it is not.
There is no winner when someone dies like this. None.
justified or not, this is a tragedy.
no matter the facts, this is a tragedy on so many levels.

In the human caring sense, I support both the police and the citizens of Ferguson... and above all, I support that the truth will come out, and that we all we make changes to see that this never happens again.

Is it okay to get shot for jaywalking - no.
is it okay to get shot for swearing - no.
is it okay to get shot for running away - no.
is it okay to get shot for hitting someone with your fists... for fighting - no.

I'm sure I could go on.

May truth and peace prevail.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1324512/54322919#c31

Fox "News" guest: Was Michael Brown too large to be an ‘unarmed teen’?

Appearing on Fox & Friends, a former nominee for Labor Secretary took the media to task for inflaming racial tensions by describing slain teen Michael Brown as “unarmed” when he was, in fact, “six foot four and weighed almost three hundred pounds.”

Linda Chavez, who was nominated to head up the U.S. Department of Labor by President George W. Bush but withdrew when it was discovered she employed an undocumented immigrant as a maid, wrote a column last week for the New York Post stating, “Publicly available videos and still photos of Brown and Wilson show significant size differences between the two men, with Brown looking to have a height advantage over Wilson and outweighing the officer by about 100 pounds.”

Chavez also repeated the now-discredited report http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/22/cnn-source-unequivocally-disputes-report-that-ferguson-officer-suffered-broken-bone/ that Brown punched officer Darren Wilson in the eye and “was treated at a hospital for facial wounds, perhaps even a fracture to his eye socket.”


Speaking with host Steve Doocy, Chavez avoided addressing the errors in her column, instead blaming Attorney General Eric Holder and saying “the media has not acted responsibly.”

“I think the media has not acted responsibly,” she explained. “I think that what is happening is really not calming racial fears but is actually enhancing them by acting as if, you know, this mantra of the unarmed black teenager shot by a white cop. You know, that description in and of itself actually colors the way in which we look at this story. We’re talking about an 18-year-old man who is six foot four and weighs almost three hundred pounds, who is videotaped just moments before the confrontation with a police officer strong arming an employee and robbing a convenience store.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/25/fox-news-guest-thinks-unarmed-teen-narrative-is-misleading-because-michael-brown-was-large/

African-American police officer: Ferguson 'heart wrenching

Do you think it makes it easier for some of your co-workers to shoot dead a black man?

I don't feel they would have that same connection or compassion with that individual, so it may make it easier for them.


Do you think what's happened in Ferguson over the last couple of weeks might make some of your white colleagues listen more to the kind of things you and other African-American officers have been saying about their negative dealings with black people?

No, absolutely not. It's actually created that divide and made it larger. It's made it harder for me to want to talk to them about it any more.

They are so disconnected from it. Their rationale, perception and interpretation of the issues are so far-fetched.

The comments they make are very one-sided and show such a lack of compassion and understanding, or even the desire to understand. It's heart-wrenching. It's been very difficult.



So when black people in Ferguson say the issue is not just about Michael Brown, but the way they have been treated as a community, do you agree?

I can completely agree with that. It (the killing of Michael Brown) should be a learning experience.

Quite possibly the officer was in fear, as was the young man. It is sad no one is addressing that. Why was he (the police officer) so afraid of him that he had to use such intense force, and why was (Michael Brown) in such fear that it happened way?

I don't know who is to blame for these perceptions, but it's almost like a fear-based society. You're told this certain type of people behaves in a certain type of way, and it sticks with you throughout your life. They never take the time to find out if it's true.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28890068

Maybe (Duh) The Libertarian Movement Does Not Really Exist



http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/pew-research-libertarian-study

Good.

Approved responses - by Tom Tomorrow

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Ferguson Reporter Breaks Down Over Police Abuse: Listen!




WOW:
MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/25/1324407/-Do-Black-People-Feel-Pain

"Police Apologist Bingo"

NYT: For about four hours, in the unrelenting summer sun, his body remained where he fell.

FERGUSON, Mo. — Just after noon on Saturday, Aug. 9, Michael Brown was shot dead by a police officer on Canfield Drive.

For about four hours, in the unrelenting summer sun, his body remained where he fell.

Neighbors were horrified by the gruesome scene: Mr. Brown, 18, face down in the middle of the street, blood streaming from his head. They ushered their children into rooms that faced away from Canfield Drive. They called friends and local news stations to tell them what had happened. They posted on Twitter and Facebook and recorded shaky cellphone videos that would soon make their way to the national news.

........
Mr. Brown probably could not have been revived, and the time that his body lay in the street may ultimately have no bearing on the investigations into whether the shooting was justified. But local officials say that the image of Mr. Brown’s corpse in the open set the scene for what would become a combustible worldwide story of police tactics and race in America, and left some of the officials asking why.

.......


The St. Louis County Police Department, which almost immediately took over the investigation, had officers on the scene quickly, but its homicide detectives were not called until about 40 minutes after the shooting, according to county police logs, and they arrived around 1:30 p.m. It was another hour before an investigator from the medical examiner’s office arrived.


the rest:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/us/michael-brown-a-bodys-timeline-4-hours-on-a-ferguson-street.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LargeMediaHeadlineSum&module=photo-spot-region®ion=photo-spot&WT.nav=photo-spothttp:/&_r=0

Reminder: Reagan wasn't golfing when we invaded Grenada....


Reagan in his jammies being briefed on the Grenada plans, then, later hitting the links. Where were the Republicans of 2014 to scold him?
Read more at http://thedailybanter.com/2014/08/youre-upset-obamas-golf-game-heres-reagan-goofing-major-events/#yTTUMMReAo0Ib7QW.99http://thedailybanter.com/2014/08/youre-upset-obamas-golf-game-heres-reagan-goofing-major-events/#uUr8yeYCqgWw4Ufm.99
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