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why you shouldnt compare obamacare to katrina or iraq, in one chart. cc: all pundits

Sorry, but Obamacare is not President Obama's 'Iraq war'
The media was quick to declare the Iraq war a success when it wasn't. Now reporters can't wait to label Obamacare a disaster


Here is how the ACA exchanges are not like the Iraq war (or the Bush mismanagement of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath), in one chart:


As offensive as Strong's analogy is to, well, anyone, it's perhaps more instructive than he intended: imagine if the ACA had the kind of blindly optimistic bipartisan support enjoyed by the Iraq War. Imagine if the Obama administration had been able to embed reporters in among enthusiastic and over-prepared participants. Imagine if the ACA's explosions had painted pretty colors in the night sky.

Instead, the ACA is the polar opposite of the Iraq war, not just in terms of aim (saving lives versus taking them), but in terms of a model for political cooperation and press coverage. The ACA created ruthless, even suicidal political opposition: if the Democrats had responded to even the rumors of disaster at the beginning of the Iraq war (and we were warned) the way that the GOP has dug its heels in on Obamacare – shut the government down until Bush admitted defeat and withdrew – then the chart of how many deaths each had caused might not look quite as tragic. Though it would still look pretty tragic.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/23/obamacare-website-glitches-not-iraq-war

MN-Sen: Al Franken (D) To The GOP, "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!-No More Shutdown Nonsense!"

A message to House Republicans

Now that the government shutdown is over, we can finally get back to work -- and, boy, do we have a lot of work to do.

But even as we turn our attention back where it belongs -- to creating jobs, strengthening the middle class, and making college more affordable -- we can’t forget that House Republicans will do this again if we let them.

It’s time to draw a line in the sand. No more shutdowns. No more brinksmanship. No more manufactured crises.

Click here to sign a petition telling House Republicans: NO MORE NONSENSE!
https://mn.alfranken.com/landing/e131023/

You know who else closed parks...




http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/23/1249619/-You-know-who-else-closed-parks

Health care-mudgeons


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/22/1249317/-Health-care-mudgeons

Obama & Reid: "We both came to conclusion that time had ended to be taken in by these crazy people"

"President Obama is such a nice man, just a nice person. And he became president during an awful time," Reid told HuffPost, measuring each word. "It is easy to look back and say, 'Oh, he shouldn't have done that, or he shouldn't have renewed the payroll tax.' That's all then, this is now. A different environment. I don't want to sound like a cheerleader for Obama. He can get others to do that. But he's a good person."

That July meeting ended up being just what the two needed. "That was good," Reid would tell his chief of staff, David Krone, who'd been waiting outside with top White House aide Rob Nabors. It helped lay the groundwork for what would be a critical -- and fruitful -- political partnership during the high-stakes budget fights this fall.

Each more mindful of the other's strategic vision, Reid and Obama made a mutual commitment to legislative stubbornness. A week after the meeting, Reid threatened to gut the filibuster if Republicans didn't let through a slate of executive nominees. Republicans caved. Looking forward, the two vowed to steadfastly oppose any effort to tinker with the president's health care law as part of a continuing resolution to keep the government running. And when it came time to raise the debt ceiling weeks later, they would refuse to negotiate altogether.

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"We just both came to the conclusion that the time had ended to be taken in by these crazy people," Reid said. "The president said, 'I'm not going to negotiate.' I said, 'I'm not going to negotiate.' And we didn't."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/obama-reid_n_4136996.html

Cruz Jokes 'Nigerian Email Scammers' Are Running Obamacare Website

IGOR BOBIC – OCTOBER 22, 2013, 6:43 AM EDT1848

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who advocates blocking the Affordable Care Act at every level, fanned the flames on the law's disastrous rollout Monday night, telling supporters in Texas that "Nigerian email scammers" seem to have overtaken the job of running its plagued online web portal.

"You may have noticed that all the Nigerian email scammers have become a lot less active lately," he joked, as quoted by the Houston Chronicle. "They all have been hired to run the Obamacare website."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-jokes-nigerian-email-scammers-are-running-obamacare-website

"The Cruz Missile Crisis"



Keep in mind, Ted Cruz is mainstream in the Republican base. According to the latest national survey conducted for Democracy Corps and Women’s Voices Women Vote Action Fund, which fielded just last week, Ted Cruz is right at the center of a Republican Party that is majority Tea Party and Evangelical. Combined, these groups make up over half of Republican partisans, and comprise over 60 percent of the GOP when you include the religious observants.

Cruz is immensely popular with Tea Party adherents. Among this group, 75 percent give him a positive rating and half give him an intensely positive rating (over 75 on our 100-point scale.) His average rating among this group is a stunning 81.8 out of 100. While he is less well known among Evangelical Republicans, he is no less popular among those who identify him—40 percent give him a positive rating, a third are intensely favorable toward him. On average, Evangelicals give Cruz a rating of 75.9 out of 100…

ven as pundits label Cruz as “fringe,” it is critical to remember that this is only true when talking about the national electorate. In his own party, there is nothing “fringe” about Ted Cruz. He is right at the center.



More:
http://www.democracycorps.com/National-Surveys/keep-in-mind-ted-cruz-is-mainstream-in-the-republican-base/
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/10/22/early-morning-open-thread-sen-cruz-may-he-live-a-thousand-years/

President Obama: "Congrats, New Jersey. #LoveIsLove "



✔ @BarackObama
Congrats, New Jersey. #LoveIsLove
10:32 AM - 21 Oct 2013


https://twitter.com/BarackObama/statuses/392342632526934016

Inhofe: Obamacare Might Have Killed Me-At 79-entire procedure would have been covered under MEDICARE

Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) told the radio station WABC on Sunday he may not have been granted his recent emergency quadruple bypass heart surgery if he was insured under Obamacare,BuzzFeed reported.

"You are talking to someone right now who probably wouldn’t be here if we had socialized medicine in America," he said on host Aaron Klein's radio show, referring to Obamacare.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gop-senator-obamacare-might-have-killed-me

I guarantee you’ll see every House Repuke promising to keep granny’s bennies safe from the mean Dems

First of all, our long-term deficit is 100% the result of projections of skyrocketing health care costs, which is the product of an extraordinarily dysfunctional health care sector, not overly generous social insurance programs. If we could bring our costs down to what even the bigger spenders like Canada shell out for health care, our deficit problem would vanish. Cutting Medicare and Medicaid benefits – the drivers of long-term deficits in these projections–would only push back the date at which those programs eat the entire federal budget. (Extrapolate far enough into the future and a single Advil will cost a quadrillion dollars.) Reforming the health care sector is what will actually make a difference, and Obamacare seems to be having some positive effects so far.

Second, not only is cutting Social Security completely unnecessary – the program is solvent into 2033 at least, after which point it can still pay 75 percent of current benefits, and could be patched up with only a couple minor tweaks — we actually should be increasing benefits, if anything. As Duncan Black never tires of pointing out, the 401(k) program has been an abject failure, and millions of people are about to retire with totally inadequate savings. Boosting Social Security is probably the only workable option to prevent a huge increase in senior poverty.

Third, lets not forget the macroeconomic angle. Democrats seem to have trouble keeping their eye on the ball here, but cuts to social insurance (especially to Social Security) means melon-baller scoops out of aggregate demand, which is already weak. It means fewer jobs and even more prolonged economic weakness going into the 2014 elections. And Dems’ proposed swap, tax increases on the rich, also subtracts from aggregate demand, though not nearly as much. (Tax-side austerity is still austerity.) Again, right now the actual problem with the budget deficit is that it’s coming down too fast.

Finally, remember what happened when Democrats cut social insurance as part of Obamacare? Republicans ran against them for it! These were mostly cuts to providers, not benefits, but it’s a good reminder of just how popular these programs are. If there is a big budget deal with swingeing cuts to social insurance I guarantee you’ll see every House Republican promising to keep granny’s bennies safe from the mean old Democrats.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/21/washington-is-still-stuck-in-the-wrong-conversation/
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