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"The Taliban Says It's Legal - So It's Ok With Me"


Wall Street Cushion

Cheney Lying AGAIN when he claims Japanese soldiers were not tried for waterboarding.

The Facts

At the International Military Tribunal for the Far East (IMTFE), which lasted from April 29, 1946 to Nov. 12, 1948, there were indeed Japanese war criminals who were tried and ultimately executed for some of the events mentioned by Cheney. Akira Muto and Iwane Matsui commanded troops that commited atrocities at Nanking, including the rapes of 20,000 women and the slaughter of 300,000 people; foreign minister Koki Hirota was also held responsible for being “well informed about the massacre.” Heitaro Kimura forced prisoners of war to do extremely hazardous work, including the construction of a railway between Burma and what is now Thailand.

The judgment of the IMTFE included a description of the type of torture known as “the water treatment,” in which “the victim was bound or otherwise secured in a prone position; and water was forced through his mouth and nostrils into his lungs and stomach until he lost consciousness,” according to “Drop by Drop: Forgetting the History of Water Torture in U.S. Courts,” a 2007 article in the Columbia Journal of Transnational Law, by Judge Evan Wallach. (The article is generally behind a paywall, but a plain type version can be found on the Internet.)

But as Wallach makes clear, Japanese soldiers other than the Class A war criminals were also prosecuted for mistreatment of American prisoners—and water torture “loomed large in the evidence presented against them.” For instance, at the Yokohama Class B and C War Crimes Trials in 1947, Yukio Asano, an interpreter, faced a charge of violating “the laws and customs of war” through these specific acts:

Specification 1: That in or about July or August, 1943, the accused Yukio Asano, did willfully and unlawfully, brutally mistreat and torture Morris O. Killough, an American Prisoner of War, by beating and kicking him, by fastening him on a stretcher and pouring water up his nostrils.

Specification 2: That on or about 15 May, 1944, at Fukoka Prisoner of War Branch Camp Number 3, Kyushu, Japan, the accused Yukio Asano, did, willfully and unlawfully, brutally mistreat and torture Thomas B. Armitage, William O. Cash and Munroe Dave Woodall, American Prisoners of War, by beating and kicking them, by forcing water into their mouths and noses, and by pressing lighted cigarettes against their bodies.

Specification 5. That between 1 April, 1943 and 31 December, 1943, the accused Yukio Asano, did, willfully and unlawfully, brutally mistreat and torture John Henry Burton, an American Prisoner of War, by beating him, and by fastening him head downward on a stretcher and forcing water into his nose.

Asanao was sentenced to 15 years confinement at hard labor.


Jon Stewart to George W. Bush: Thank you for not dying and making Dick Cheney the president

Jon Stewart doesn't have many nice things to say about former president George W. Bush these days. One thing he's thankful for, though, is that Bush didn't die in office and allow then-Vice President Dick Cheney to become president.

On Monday's "Daily Show," after playing clips of Cheney defending the CIA's interrogation techniques — which some, including President Obama, have labeled "torture" — Stewart gave the rare kind-of-compliment to Bush.

"I'm going to end on a note of gratitude — something I never thought that I would say," Stewart said. "George W. Bush, thank you for not dying while you were in office."

The crowd applauded as the show went into a commercial break.

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Sandy Hook Parents Sue Bushmaster: You Sold ‘Weapon of Choice’ for Mass Murderers

Sandy Hook Parents Sue Bushmaster: You Sold ‘Weapon of Choice’ for Mass Murderers

The families of 10 of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre have filed a joint lawsuit against the makers of the gun that killed their children.

A lawsuit filed Monday by 10 Sandy Hook victims’ families claims Adam Lanza would not have been able to kill 26 people in five minutes without his “weapon of choice,” a Bushmaster AR-15.

“The number of lives lost in those 264 seconds was made possible” by the rifle that was “engineered to deliver maximum carnage with extreme efficiency,” according to the lawsuit against AR-15 manufacturer Bushmaster.

The lawsuit was filed Monday morning in Connecticut superior court against Bushmaster, several other manufacturers, and Riverview Gun Sales, where Lanza’s rifle was purchased.


FOXTerrorism Solutions: Cut Off Toes, Spy On Muslims, Torture Detainees

The Five's Terrorism Solutions: Cut Off Toes, Spy On Muslims, Torture Detainees
Fox News' Eric Bolling: "Empower Our Intel Community To Go Ahead And Do These Things Instead Of Saying Let's Not Offend Muslims"

Video ››› December 15, 2014 8:45 PM EST ››› MEDIA MATTERS STAFF

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From the December 15 edition of Fox News' The Five:

GREG GUTFELD: It boils down to a simple fact that almost anybody can understand: There's no logic in having no last resort, because when all else fails, then what do you do? Do you just go to lunch? Go, well, yeah, we talked to this guy, and he's not telling us anything, so I guess we're done. No, you go digital. You know, you cut off the fingers and toes. You always have to have a last resort -

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE: That was so Jack Bauer.

GUTFELD: -- because it's not right. You're not doing your job if you don't have that one last thing you're willing to do.

ERIC BOLLING: So torture, as Dick Cheney points out, is also having to make the decision to jump to your death on the 85th floor or burn to death from there -- one or the other, you're never going to see your family again. That was the real definition of torture, not the enhanced interrogation methods.

BECKEL: How about all the information Dick Cheney had showing that that was going to happen?

BOLLING: Allow me to finish this, Bob. I haven't said a word. Here's where we are right now: We're back to September 12th, 2001, where the day after the towers came down, everyone was on their toes. They were vigilant. They see something, say something, call a cop. And the cops went after, they asked someone taking a picture of a building, "What are you doing? I'm going to confiscate that camera. We're going to see what you're doing."

We're back to that, because that's the only way we're going to get safe now instead of the PC crap that's going on, with CAIR saying, "Don't listen to our mosques. You don't have a right to." Really? I think you have probable cause now, especially with what's going on with ISIS saying every wannabe jihadist in America or around the world, in the name of ISIS, is getting in and kill somebody, kill somebody for the hell of it, you can do it alone, you can be a lone wolf. So now is the time we have to go back and embolden and empower our intel community to go and do these things, instead of, ooh, let's not offend Muslims right now.

GUILFOYLE: Oh and don't offend Iran or China either, because they're not happy with us.

BECKEL: Excuse me, I'm the last one to be accused of that, number one. And number two, why don't you take some ISIS prisoners -- we've got some. Let's waterboard them.


Smoking Gun: Wilson grand jury Witness #40-a liar & convicted felon was "Nowhere Near Canfield Dr"

Investigation"Witness 40": Exposing A Fraud In Ferguson
TSG probe unmasks grand jury witness who spun fabricated tale

DECEMBER 15--The grand jury witness who testified that she saw Michael Brown pummel a cop before charging at him “like a football player, head down,” is a troubled, bipolar Missouri woman with a criminal past who has a history of making racist remarks and once insinuated herself into another high-profile St. Louis criminal case with claims that police eventually dismissed as a “complete fabrication,” The Smoking Gun has learned.


Referred to only as “Witness 40” in grand jury material, the woman concocted a story that is now baked into the narrative of the Ferguson grand jury, a panel before which she had no business appearing.

While the “hands-up” account of Dorian Johnson is often cited by those who demanded Wilson’s indictment, “Witness 40”’s testimony about seeing Brown batter Wilson and then rush the cop like a defensive end has repeatedly been pointed to by Wilson supporters as directly corroborative of the officer’s version of the August 9 confrontation. The “Witness 40” testimony, as Fox News sees it, is proof that the 18-year-old Brown’s killing was justified, and that the Ferguson grand jury got it right.

However, unlike Johnson, “Witness 40”--a 45-year-old St. Louis resident named Sandra McElroy--was nowhere near Canfield Drive on the Saturday afternoon Brown was shot to death.

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COURAGEOUS statement from Browns player Andrew Hawkins: "I was Taught That Justice Is A Right"

Made me cry when he talks about his little boy Austin.

most xlnt,
peace, kp



In short, the same people who lied to us about weapons of mass destruction are now lying to us in the aftermath of their criminal abuses of detainees. It's as if they've not heard that we know they lied to us to get us into the war in the first place. It's as if they've decided the best course of action is to stick to the party line, goosestep along with a unified denial of proven facts, and hope their asses don't end up in front of war crimes tribunal at the Hague.

And that's exactly what should happen next.

If there were any justice in this nation, we would insist that those responsible for taking us down this immoral rabbit hole be held accountable before an international tribunal. We would insist on nothing less if it had been our sons or daughters being waterboarded, or if our own soldiers were sexually, physically, and psychologically abused while in the captivity of another nation's security forces. We can't indignantly point out the inhumane crimes of others and insist upon international condemnation of those acts if we're not going to come clean and punish those who committed criminal abuses in our names.

We owe it to the world and to our nation's honor to offer up the war criminals we're currently shielding from international prosecution.

In the meantime, it would be helpful if the people who sanctioned, ordered, and carried out these crimes stopped invoking the name of Christ whenever they want to point to our superior moral authority around the world. We should either stop using the guy's name, or start living up to His teachings.


It actually costs money to save money.

In the long term, it makes way more sense to buy a good toaster. But if the good toaster is 30 bucks right now, and the crappiest toaster of them all is 10, it doesn’t matter how many times I have to replace it. Ten bucks it is, because I don’t have any extra tens.


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