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Is trolling a board/page of a stance you hate generally a conservative phenomenon?

Say a page/board/ has a political, dietary, environmental, academic or cultural stance you are completely against.

Is it really a constructive use of one's time to troll that page? I don't get why someone would care SO MUCH; or worse yet, assume the board's regular participants who WANT to be there care so much.

For example, would any one of US be on sites like The Washington Free Beacon, The Moonie Times, Faux News or Conservative Tribune? Likely not . . . no minds would be changed (or, really, even penetrated), and you'd just get peppered with logical fallacy after ad hominem after stupidity.

I never understood the logic behind insulting people, yet it's the conservative that's on a board pertaining to something they don't like and assume people care about what they have to say. But . . . . we're somehow the assholes here.

Explain This To Me Like I'm A Complete Idiot, Part 15: No Millennial Left Behind?

The question everyone in business should be asking: How does a debt-strapped millennial buy big ticket items, like homes, cars, insurance, tools, furniture, appliances, etc.???

My generation (X) was only semi-able to afford those things and still managed to survive with a threadbare nest egg at best . . . . mostly because even though our jobs were lower-income during college, they were at least able to buy us an education for the most part. Those days are long gone.

I mean, did the Ownership class not THINK about this before raising and raising and raising prices, crashing the economy (twice), exporting all the blue and white collar jobs to lower paying shores and, most importantly, arbitrarily stagnating the middle/working/poor wages (according to . . . . are you ready . . . . TEH FREE MARKETZ) so that pretty soon, only the upper middle class and above won't be priced out of everything?

"I believe the children are our future". Explain this to me like I'm a complete idiot . . . . HOW does this get repaired? Yeah, someone better figure out goddamned quickly how you un-bollocks this looming issue.

Joseph Stiglitz on CNBC . . . man, this is TAXING to watch.

A reasoned professor of economics from Columbia University is really, REALLY trying to hold his own regarding income inequality against two reasoned hosts and one supreme wingnut joker in Joe Kernen.

My GOD, just put Joe on Faux already and get it over with.

Professor Stiglitz is offering reasonable and long-term solutions to a complex and long-standing problem - we're not taxing the wealthy enough, there needs to be reasonable regulations and tax regimens for small businesses vs coroporations, interest rates, Fed/Government involvement, etc etc etc

And what is Wingnut Joe doing?

* Joe trots out a long anti-Obama quote from Mr. Trickle Down UBS Bastard Phil Gramm of all people, cited in the Murdoch Street Journal, of course.
* Joe is still trotting out the same discredited right-wing canards of "entitlements", "Highest coroprate tax rate in the world", "stifling regulations", "The middle class of the 50s-70s was an anomaly because the rest of the world couldn't compete like they can now (which means a few of them volunteered to be corporate slavestates to the likes of Neutron Jack Welch)" . . . .
* Joe is still offering false dilemmas of "You want an entire country on the government dole??"
* Joe is STILL blaming Obama Obama Obama Obama even after, what, 60 consecutive months of positive private sector job growth. Fucking TIREsome.

It's amazing, truly, how large of a laughingstock our Fourth Estate is. We cannot even have a serious discussion with a Nobel Laureate regarding long-term concerns without turning it into a over-partisan comedy act.

Dumb Letters To the PD Dept: "Dem Gurl Scowts Supptor Bebeh Killurs!"

OMFG. Is this serious? I mean, this sounds made up even by wingnut reactionary standards.


It's that time again when young ladies and their mothers can be seen almost everywhere offering their cookies to raise funds to further the work of the Girl Scouts of America. In the past I was always willing and happy to do so and was even happier to get my greedy mitts on a box or so of Thin Mints.

Imagine my horror when I learned just recently the Girl Scouts actively support Planned Parenthood which, of course, promotes abortion on demand. Upon further investigation I found the Girl Scouts hold up women like Nancy Pelosi and Gloria Steinem as role models to be emulated!

It goes without saying I will be boycotting Girl Scout cookies, now and in the future, and doing all in my power to work for the demise of the Girl Scouts of America. I know they do much good in teaching young women skills for adulthood, but that does not justify supporting abortion and other immoral programs, especially when there are other more moral groups to choose from.

I call on all people who cherish life to support the boycott of their cookies and the demise of the Girl Scouts. The alternative is raising young women who think it's OK to murder their children.

James C. Morgan,


Wow. JFW. Pick your battles, dude.
Posted by HughBeaumont | Wed Apr 1, 2015, 08:52 AM (2 replies)

Insane whack-a-doo @ Santorum event: Obama tried to nuke Charleston


This is either great performance art or a case study of the effects of hate media.

Either way, you gotta see pretty much the only video proof of Rick Santorum being the sane one. Enjoy.

"Build an economy on crapshoots; a chute of crap, you'll receive."

Six Lowest Common Denominator Reasons People Vote Republican:

1. "My Sky Daddy Will Beat YOUR Sky Daddies Up."
2. "I'M Going to be RICH Someday, I Just KNOW it!"
3. "I'm Still Fighting The Cold War and Will Always Fight The Cold War."
4. "White Makes Right."
5. "It's ME Who's teh Oppressed, Not (insert actual oppressed ethnic group/gender/racial slur here)s!!!"
6. "Men Kissing EWWWWWWW!"

Is this a gross over-generalization? A broad brush? Divisive?

Look who their voters keep sending to the House and Senate. Look at their presidential candidates. These people, astoundingly, make The Failure Fuhrer and his puppetmaster Cheney look like benevolent PhDs.

When I encounter these people online, I'm looking at a bunch of scared, bitter, paranoid mice people who seem to have the deep understanding that, yes, it's really hard to defend their party's policies without some sense of shame or embarrassment. So their defense is to attack Democrats as being just as bad/worse or call them Communists. Yet that kind of skips the point, doesn't it?

Their economic policies rely on faith based/just-world hypothesis vaporware. Their foreign policy is "Turn The World into Glass Parking Lots pew pew pew 'murica!". Their domestic policy relies on bake sales to pay $200,000 cancer bills. They hate governmental shenanigans but have no problem whatsoever when a corporation does the same thing.

And yet, it all comes down to the Six Reasons. Maybe that's "What's Wrong with Kansas" . . . or Ohio or Michigan or New Hampshire or Iowa.

It's sad, really.

PD: Including creationism in public school curriculum part of well-rounded education.

The joke is I'm not kidding. The Plain Dealer actually published this on their website, from a "guest columnist" with Baptist University credentials.


Further, naturalism and evolutionary theory are the reigning paradigms within the scientific community. Even so, there is still a role for an explanation and exploration of the minority report. Indeed, proponents of both intelligent design and creationism argue that their understanding of science and the relevant data is coherent and corresponds to reality. If a theory has the most explanatory power and best accounts for the evidence on offer, then at the very least alternative and opposing viewpoints and perspectives should be considered on their own terms.

So, for example, including the spectrum of opinion on the origins and significance of irreducibly complex organisms would only enhance a student's understanding of the world. Even if the prevailing paradigm is naturalism, these phenomena should still be investigated.

This kind of interdisciplinary dialogue is not only appropriate but necessary to equip students to think carefully and critically about the knowledge they are receiving. Just as a curriculum that excluded an explanation of naturalism and evolutionary theory would be inappropriate for public schools, so too, one devoid of the options of intelligent design or creationism.

The world around us teems with life, breath-taking mystery, and terrifying intrigue. Why is there something rather than nothing? Why do the natural processes that we can observe and study continue to function in the way that they do? What keeps the cosmos intact and the biosphere contained?

Simply stunning.

Creationism: It takes not so much a leap of faith, but rather a giant tumble down Mount Dumbass.

Today marks an unwanted anniversary:

50 YEARS since any of Cleveland's three sports teams won a championship.

That's 150 combined seasons with BUPKIS to show for it.

No three-sport city has that long of a drought (San Diego doesn't count since they were only a three-sport city from 1978 to 1984).

Only three teams have even reached the Championship match in their sport (1995 and 1997 Indians, 2007 Cavs) and have either bombed spectacularly or snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in all of them.

And Crunch fans, NO one gave a shit then or now, sorry.

Everything You Thought You Knew About Personal Finance Is Dead WrongóHere's the Truth:


LP:Media figures like Suze Orman, David Bach and David Ramsey tell us, "Follow my advice and everything will be OK." Why is this promise a lie?

HO: All of these people are in the business of selling simplistic solutions to complex problems. Should we live below our means? Of course. Is it always possible to do so? No. Itís not easy to live within your means if your means are a $300-a-week unemployment check. As if that were not enough, some of the advice they are purveying is flat-out wrong. Our financial woes are not the result of spending our funds on lattes and other small luxuries, like David Bach says. You canít choose not to participate in a recession, despite what Dave Ramsey thinks. Personal finance canít do it all for us.

LP:You write about the financial literacy movement, which, on first glance, looks like a helpful educational crusade. How has it conspired to make us poorer? What does it mean that big banks like Capital One promote it?

HO: Financial literacy classes sure sound good. But students who take the classes donít seem to retain much of the knowledge. And, when you think about it for a moment, that makes sense. The idea that taking a class on how finance works at the age of 17 can save someone from a predatory 100-page small-print mortgage when they are 40 is just preposterous. Donít believe me? Tell me how the French and Indian War contributed to the American Revolution. See what I mean? I swear that was taught in your high school history class.

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