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Why can't they just use regular Memorial Day to commemorate their lost brethren?

Northern states don't have Union Memorial Day.

Also, by bringing Jefferson into the fray you are confusing time periods, making a false equation between the two. Jefferson was a founder - flawed, yes, but someone who advocated for a strong union, living a hundred years earlier than the Civil War. Confederates were, by definition, not slaveholders but people who sought to secede from the Union. They were no more patriots than are the teabaggers calling for the same today. Why they are still "celebrating" their defeat is ridiculous no matter how you slice it.

Also, the 9th Ward was underwater for more than month,

residents were atop roofs for a week in searing temperatures without water or food, surrounded by toxic waters up to their rooflines, and parents and children were purposefully separated during helicopter evacuations. Bush didn't even declare the area an emergency until FOUR DAYS after the storm! The comparisons of Staten Island to the Ninth Ward is a complete bullshit rewrite of history.

I saw that happen in Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina.

Rich folk moved inland just far enough away from those white sand beaches after the storm surge devastated their mansions. They displaced a lot of poor blacks and Vietnamese renters who worked service jobs in the casinos and at those big mansions. Of course there was no other rental housing available and it became a real clusterf*ck.

But you bring up another issue I also saw in Mississippi. Part of the reason the destruction was so bad was because of overdevelopment of fields and wetlands. Marshes and cypress swamps that used to absorb storm surges had been cleared to make way for those sandy beaches and backfilled to build malls and wealthy housing. Thus Katrina's devastation was amplified 10-fold as inland tributaries (sometimes miles inland) flooded up to 10 feet under the surge.

May you stay safe, Friend.

Racism is a social construct devised by the wealthy

to keep the poor people divided - and not join together to overthrow their corporate overlords. Given the economic climate these past four years, this news doesn't surprise me in the least.

Romney & Ryan will be at Red Rocks Amphitheatre this week. You know who built that?

FDR's Civilian Conservation Corps!

From today's Denver Post:

Red Rocks represents exactly the kind of public investment Romney and Ryan oppose. In February, Romney railed against the stimulus at a factory in Colorado Springs that took stimulus money. Next Tuesday, he’ll be speaking a national landmark built by stimulus money.

Constructed courtesy of FDR’s New Deal, or what we would now call “stimulus,” Red Rocks is to this day a public park owned by the city and county of Denver. It is the jewel of the New Deal’s investment in Colorado, as public projects built our nation’s infrastructure and helped lift us out of the Great Depression.

On a panel at the Red Rocks Visitors’ Center it says:

Red Rocks Amphitheatre was the Civilian Conservation Corps’ largest and most ambitious project. A crew of about 300 young men at any one time lived in barracks near Morrison and worked on the theatre from 1936 to 1941, with help from the National Parks Service and Works Progress Administration. They laid 10 boxcar loads of cement and put down 90,000 square feet of flagstone quarried at Lyons, Colorado. The physical structure of the facility, as well as all the finished terracing and stonework, was built by hand, without the help of any machines.

Eat that, Republicans!

Third hit on my google search brought up Rousseau's Second Discourse as posted by Fordham U.

Here ya go: Modern History Sourcebook: Jean-Jacques Rousseau: Discourse on Inequality, No 2. The year is irrelevant; Michael Servetis discovered the human circulatory system in the 1540's, but that doesn't mean it's not applicable to humans today.

A little more digging finds this link to a pdf. from Oxford Journals that reports on the adverse effect of clozapine (cited in the ninth and tenth paragraph of the original article): http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/3/381.full.pdf. I found this in less than 10 minutes with very little background in medical research.

The idea that all articles have to be indexed is ridiculous. TIME doesn't source it's articles, nor does the NY Times or any other mainstream publications. Does that mean everything they publish is rubbish? Of course not. If you find reason to be skeptical, by all means research it for yourself and draw your own conclusions. But one shouldn't dismiss it out of hand just because all the information isn't served to you on a plate.

No.

Everything is open to debate in a free and open democracy. If you seek to limit debate among even people who support Obama's goals (if not his ways to reach them), you are advocating behavior no better than lock-stepping Republicans.

We succeeded in impeaching Nixon, that's what got the modern Repuke party's panties in a twist.

And while I agree with O'Donnell that liberals were responsible for the list he's outlined here, to say Republicans objected to extending voting rights, ending segregation, passing civil rights, etc., is disingenuous. There were plenty of Southern Democrats who opposed these measures. It would be more appropriate to say that these measures were opposed by conservatives because parties morph over time. Lincoln - a Republican - ended slavery, after all.

There are parables that suggest the poor are, indeed, entitled to a better lot.

Jesus consistently sided with the poor, they are the chosen ones illustrating his parables. Consider Luke 18:2-8, the parable of the unjust judge who hears the pleas of the widow to help her against one who is persecuting her.

There's Matthew 20:1-16 which advocates fair wages for laborers.

Most damning to your argument is Matthew 25:31-46 in which he admonishes those who did not feed the hungry, house the homeless, or clothe those who needed clothes - for free, since he does not mention the poor needing to pay for these services.

As for Jesus being celibate, we don't know that, particularly if looking at the extant gnostic gospels. Mary was not only Jesus' especially close confidant, some of the other disciples were jealous of their closeness. In particular, the Gospel of Philip refers to Mary Magdalene as the koinônos (Greek variously translated as companion, partner, confidant) of Jesus, going so far as to note that Jesus used to kiss her often on the lips. (See http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gop.html, about half way down the page.)

Reading Franklin's autobiography now.

He would hardly have considered himself a self-made man. He spends a lot of time crediting other people with giving him opportunities to excel in his endeavors, including lending him money and doing him favors.

Douglass had help escaping from slavery from other free blacks and white abolitionists who lent him money, provided free transportation, and harbored him.

Clay got his early start in law - for which he never went to school - through job arranged for him by a prominent Virginia lawyer who took a shine to him.

None of these examples are self-made men.
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