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Ted Rall pegs the origin of the DNC in his graphic biography of Bernie.

The whole book is a great bio, and solid history of the rise of the current populist movement from the left, but this page explains so much, so succinctly.




I really recommend reading the whole book, available through your local library, independent bookstore, or amazon.com.

Bullshit.

The Democratic party as represented by the DNC aren't Democrats - or more precisely, they've hijacked the party of Roosevelt to turn it into Republican-lite, where they are more into pandering to corporate interests to get money than they are to addressing MY needs as a liberal citizen-voter.

I always identified as Democratic growing up, the party of Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson. I registered independent for many years feeling that the Democratic party leadership didn't represent my interests as a progressive voter, but I still voted straight Democratic party ticket for decades. I switched registration status to vote for Obama in 2008, but you can't tell me I wasn't a good and faithful Democrat all those years I voted straight-ticket. And FINALLY there's someone running as a Democrat who I really feels represents the Democratic "me" all those years I registered Independent. I'll bet you 90% of those Independents are other iterations of me, of the progressive wing of the party that the DNC has worked for decades to shut down, shut up, and destroy. Sorry! We're not going away! And I will shed tears for my progressive brothers and sisters who are denied voting for Sanders because of some bullshit assumption you and the rest of the DNC-Democrats make about the purity of Democratic Party.

I feel sorry for the Boomers who've become bitter and cynical.

I straddle Gen X and Boomers, and I think it's so sad how so many in my cohort have given up on their dreams.

Links please.

My internet search gives Sanders a net worth of about a half million dollars to HRC's $31 million.

Sanders didn't move to Vermont to run for office, he moved to Vermont in 1968 and didn't run for any office until 1971.

And since when is voting to deregulate Wall Street a bad thing? You support the repeal of Glass-Stegall and think corporations are people?

We listen. It's how we are able to use her own words against her.

1990: "As a shareholder and director of our company, Im always proud of Wal-Mart and what we do and the way we do it better than anybody else.

1994: "If, for whatever reason, the Congress doesn't pass health care reform, I believe, and I may be to totally off base on this, but I believe that by the year 2000 we will have a single payer system. I don't even think it's a close call politically. I think the momentum for a single payer system will sweep the country... It will be such a huge popular issue... that even if it's not successful the first time, it will eventually be."

1996: "They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators.' No conscience, no empathy, we can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel."

2008: "You should be willing to debate any time, anywhere."

2013: "I am determined to leave the State Department and our country safer, stronger, and more secure."

2015: "I'll look into it."

Honestly, I've been listening to Clinton BS for over a quarter century. Really not impressed with what I've heard. Except for those 1994 and 2008 quotes. But we all know how she's changed her stance on them now.

I arrived in August 2004.

Looking for hope and sanity in the run up to the 2004 election. Followed a link from an article on the Common Dreams web site. Been a mod several times, have marched with DUers against Bush and for peace and reproductive rights and at the 2008 Democratic convention. Have met so many DUers in real life these last 14 years, most of them generous, funny and lovely human beings. Sometimes you all drive me nuts, but 97% of the time you keep me grounded and hopeful and informed and sane.

You have to credit him for evolving his nuclear action.

His position on nuclear changed from this action in 1996 to urging Obama "to declare a nuclear moratorium" in 2011. It looks to me like the more information he had on the subject, the more he was able to change his mind to work for a safer, nuclear-free world for everyone.

I congratulate him for opening his mind to enlightenment. That's the kind of president I want.

I miss the unrec button, too.

But if we're keeping the jury system, I like your suggestions that the juries not be anonymous. I'd also like to make it a requirement that jurors comment on their decisions. Under the moderator system, there was discussion among the mods. People had to give reasons, within the mod group, why they believed strongly one way or another that a post should be hidden. I sit on a lot of juries, and while some alerts are spurious, I try to comment on each alert. I think the alerter deserves to know why I agree or disagree with their alert. Really, it's just common courtesy. And it would add to transparency.

The problem with this analysis is it assumes independent voters in Mass are conservative.

This is wrong. Some of the most liberal places in Massachusetts are in the Western part of the state: the five college towns of Northampton, Amherst, and South Hadley all went to Bernie, for instance. The artist communities in the Berkshires mostly went Bernie. The places that didn't go Bernie? The richest parts of the state. So don't tell me we're all Republicans west of Weston. The Republicans who make this part of the state conservative didn't vote in the Democratic primary. The poor artists and students and teachers and professors did. And we voted for Bernie.

Just need to thank this group for being a light of sanity and hope in a sea of DNC despair.

The indoctrinated DNC on here and elsewhere online are sucking the life out of me. Trying to hold Clinton accountable for anything she's done or supported in the last 35 years equals insulting a demigod to them, they go into immediate attack mode. I've been censored. I've been verbally abused. My Democratic loyalties are called into question. I've been called rude for posting civil dissent. It's walk in lockstep with them or STFU.

Anyway.

Deep breathe.

I'm glad you folks are here. You are my tribe.
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