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Ex-CIA director: White House ignored months of warnings about 9/11

Ex-CIA director: White House ignored months of warnings about 9/11 to avoid leaving ‘paper trail’ of culpability

In an explosive revelation during an interview with Politico, the former CIA director during President George W. Bush’s administration claims his department informed White house officials over impending Al Qaeda attacks months before the president received the infamous “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” presidential briefing.

According to ex-CIA head George Tenet and Cofer Black, then chief of the CIA’s counterterrorism center, they called an emergency meeting with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice on July 10 of 2001 saying they had evidence that an attack on the U.S. was imminent and that it would be “spectacular.”

Beginning in May of 2001, Tenet and Black launched an initiative called “the Blue Sky paper” and pitched it to Bush’s national security team. The CIA called for a joint CIA and military campaign to end the Al Qaeda threat by “getting into the Afghan sanctuary, launching a paramilitary operation, creating a bridge with Uzbekistan.”

According to Tenet, the Bush administration said they wanted to back-burner the plan.

“And the word back,” claims Tenet, “‘was ‘we’re not quite ready to consider this. We don’t want the clock to start ticking,’” meaning they didn’t want a paper trail.

According to Black, Bush’s national security team was living in the past.

“I think they were mentally stuck back eight years . They were used to terrorists being Euro-lefties—they drink champagne by night, blow things up during the day, how bad can this be? And it was a very difficult sell to communicate the urgency to this,” he explained.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ex-cia-director-bush-ignored-months-of-warnings-about-911-to-avoid-leaving-paper-trail-of-culpability/

Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:39 AM (19 replies)

This is so funny, from the Trump rant...

Go through the slide show and stop on slide 6 and watch for a moment.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump%e2%80%99s-95-minute-rant-%e2%80%98how-stupid-are-the-people-of-the-country%e2%80%99/ar-BBmWHy5?fullscreen=true#image=6

Posted by liberal N proud | Fri Nov 13, 2015, 06:33 AM (4 replies)

Bloomingdale's sorry for ad suggesting you spike friend's eggnog

"Spike your best friend's egg nog when they're not looking," reads the troubling caption.

Though the "best friend" could be the woman in the ad or another person not pictured, either way, insinuating that over-serving someone as a way to get the girl, is totally inappropriate.

"In reflection of recent feedback, the copy we used in our recent catalog was inappropriate and in poor taste. Bloomingdales' sincerely apologizes for this error in judgment," a brand representative told Tech Insider.

But that hasn't stopped people from calling out Bloomingdale's on Twitter.



http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/bloomingdales-sorry-for-ad-suggesting-you-spike-friends-eggnog/ar-CCdyyu?li=AAa0dzB
Posted by liberal N proud | Wed Nov 11, 2015, 02:50 PM (93 replies)

Mystery heat spots found in pyramids - Maybe it is the grain Ben Carson is talking about

An international team of architects and scientists have observed "thermal anomalies" in the pyramids of Giza, Egyptian antiquities officials say.

Thermal cameras detected higher temperatures in three adjacent stones at the bottom of the Great Pyramid.

Officials said possible causes included the existence of empty areas inside the pyramid, internal air currents, or the use of different building materials.

It comes as experts search for hidden chambers within the pyramids.

The tombs of the pharaohs Khufu (Kheops), Khafre (Khephren) and Menkaure (Mycerinus) were built in the Fourth Dynasty, about 2613-2494BC.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34773856
Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:34 AM (15 replies)

This Oped peice really explains the GOP's war on the voter... New Jersey and Chris Christie

Gov. Christie Doesn’t Want Your Vote

New Jersey’s voter-turnout rate is among the lowest in the country. During the 2014 midterm elections, 30.4 percent of the state’s eligible voters went to the polls. Last week, only 21 percent of voters came out — the worst showing for a general election in state history.

That’s a big reason state lawmakers in June passed the New Jersey Democracy Act — a bill that would make voting easier by, among other things, expanding early-voting opportunities, introducing online registration and, perhaps most significant, automatically registering eligible voters when they get a driver’s license, unless they decline.

Automatic registration, which has already passed this year in Oregon and California, could register many of the approximately 1.6 million eligible New Jerseyans who are not currently on the voter rolls.

It is hard to see how anyone could disagree with making it easier for more citizens to vote, but Gov. Chris Christie found a way. On Monday, Mr. Christie, whose 2013 re-election set a state record for the lowest turnout in a race for governor, vetoed the bill on the grounds that it would cost too much, that residents already have plenty of ways to register and that automatic registration would encourage that boogeyman of modern Republican politics — voter fraud.

Like other politicians who rely on this tired claim, Mr. Christie, who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, has not presented any actual evidence of fraud. That’s because there isn’t any. To the contrary, electronic and online registration decrease opportunities for fraud by generating more accurate and updated voter lists.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/opinion/gov-christie-doesnt-want-your-vote.html?emc=edit_th_20151110&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0
Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:41 AM (0 replies)

Everytime I see an anti Hillary or anti Bernie thread - get turned off and tune out

One of these people will be the Democratic nominee so attacking them, knocking them down and degrading them only hurts the Democratic changes next year.

If you can't post facts about the candidate with links to back those facts up, then don't post it. DU needs to regain some of its credibility. At one time, if you couldn't back up a statement here, you were called out, now all you need is a little luck with a jury if it even goes that far and you can post any slander you want.


Attack without merit and you lose me!

Posted by liberal N proud | Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:10 AM (56 replies)

Ben Carson explains other phenomena using his pyramid logic



• Dinosaur Bones: “Now, some scientists say a space projectile made these great lizard beasts extinct. But I don’t think you need aliens when God is with you. My personal theory is that there was no room for these dinosaurs on the Ark. It’s a big boat, but these are big guys.”

• Trace Fossil Footprints: “In most fossils you see just one set of prints. So it’s obvious what the meaning of those is. Every time you see a single set of footprints, that is a time Jesus was carrying you. They are not alien wells, no matter what scientists say.”

• California: “Most people say California is California, but who’s to say it isn’t the Garden of Eden? Good weather, lots of beasts, fruit that it is only sometimes appropriate for you to eat? That feels true to me. That or, as various of scientists have told me, it is a football field for space ghosts, and I don’t really buy that. God doesn’t need space ghosts to plant His vines and fig trees.”

• Colosseum: “Most people look at the Colosseum and say, “That is the Colosseum.” But I think it is the Ark. Don’t ask me why it is made of stone and has windows in it and is in Rome. When you have God, you do not need alien technology.”


More hilarity here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2015/11/05/ben-carson-explains-other-phenomena-using-his-pyramid-logic/


Posted by liberal N proud | Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:34 PM (3 replies)

I will vote for the Democratic Nominee, but all these attacks on candidates are getting you nowhere.

I don't know who you think you are going to persuade with viciousness against those who don't agree with you or the candidate you don't support but that sort of bullshit is usually left for the right wing to use.

The Democratic candidates have tried to show civility in their exchanges but the supporters are rabid and will attack at every opportunity and then some.

Keep it up and neither candidate will be worth voting for, then what?

Posted by liberal N proud | Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:23 AM (2 replies)

Elder Bush Says His Son Was Served Badly by Aides

WASHINGTON — After years of holding back, former President George Bush has finally broken his public silence about some of the key figures in his son’s administration, issuing scathing critiques of Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

In interviews with his biographer, Mr. Bush said that Mr. Cheney had built “his own empire” and asserted too much “hard-line” influence within George W. Bush’s White House in pushing for the use of force around the world. Mr. Rumsfeld, the elder Mr. Bush said, was an “arrogant fellow” who could not see how others thought and “served the president badly.”

Mr. Bush’s sharp assessments, contained in a biography by Jon Meacham to be published by Random House next week, gave voice to sentiments that many long suspected he had harbored but kept private until now. While he continued to praise his son, he did tell Mr. Meacham that the younger Mr. Bush was responsible for empowering Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld and was at times too bellicose in his language.

“I do worry about some of the rhetoric that was out there — some of it his, maybe, and some of it the people around him,” Mr. Bush told Mr. Meacham. “Hot rhetoric is pretty easy to get headlines, but it doesn’t necessarily solve the diplomatic problem.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/us/politics/elder-bush-says-his-son-was-served-badly-by-aides.html?_r=0


If he was that gullible, he should have never been in the office.
Posted by liberal N proud | Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:27 AM (28 replies)

Watch closely what is happening in Ohio, today's election troubles are just a test run

The most conservative part of the state is having trouble with equipment at the polls. A judge has See this ordered polls to stay open until 9 pm.


Ohio Boards of Elections will issue no election results until 9 p.m.


CLEVELAND - Ohio Boards of Elections have been directed to hold all election results until 9 p.m. after Hamilton County extended its polling.

ResponsibleOhio, the organization working to legalize marijuana for recreational and medicinal use in Ohio, won an injunction to keep polls open later after reported voting problems in Cincinnati on Tuesday.

.http://www.newsnet5.com/news/state/ohio-boards-of-elections-will-issue-no-election-results-until-9-pm

Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Nov 3, 2015, 08:35 PM (12 replies)
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