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Don't want your AR's banned? How about this...

Ban the ammunition that can be used in them. Or ban the clips that holds the ammo.

You can have all the damn AR's you want, just can't shoot 50 - 100 rounds.

If you can't kill the damn rabbit with a couple of bullets, then you need to learn how to aim better.

Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:30 PM (60 replies)

With every mass shooting the NRA and the pro-gun group drowns out the tragedy with canned rhetoric

It's the same message every time and it always starts before the facts are known. This is one area that is bipartisan; the pro-gun group.

The victims and their families never get time to mourn or voice their outrage before we all hear the save the gun messages.

How many more must be sacrificed before we can have a common sense discussion about stopping this madness? If you don't want to lose your guns for support, you need to stop yelling it's not the guns every time people are gunned down in cold blood and start being part of the solution.

I am not advocating the repeal of the second amendment are any kind of ban on guns, but at some point the outrage will be so large, you may not be able to stop it.

I pray for the Orlando victims and the healing of their loved ones.

Posted by liberal N proud | Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:56 PM (0 replies)

Who Could Hillary Clinton Choose as Her VP? A Cheat Sheet

Every four years, summer brings with it a popular parlor-game among even the most casual political observers. Who will the presidential nominee(s) pick as their running mate?

Here's a look at the candidates Hillary Clinton could pick to be her second-in-command.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/who-could-clinton-choose-her-vp-cheat-sheet-n586756
Posted by liberal N proud | Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:49 PM (13 replies)

Trump's own lawyer is donating to Hillary Clinton

While Donald Trump has been trying to reframe his attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel -- complaining about his membership in a Latino lawyers organization, or accusing him of bearing some responsibility for the Trump U plaintiffs' law firm's six-figure speech payments to Hillary Clinton -- it turns out that his own lawyer has given to Clinton's presidential campaign, and he did so after Trump hired him.

The lawyer defending Trump in the case, Daniel Petrocelli, has donated to Clinton and several Democrats over the years, Yahoo News' Mike Isikoff noted.

The Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political donations, says that in January, Petrocelli donated $2,700, the maximum amount allowable for a contribution to Hillary Clinton's presidential primary campaign. Isikoff had also reported that Petrocelli had been hired by Trump a month earlier, in December 2015. Further, Petrocelli's law firm, O'Melveny & Myers, has given nearly $20,000 to her campaign, Yahoo News reported.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trumps-own-lawyer-is-donating-to-hillary-clinton/
Posted by liberal N proud | Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:05 AM (10 replies)

For all those who say the can't vote for Hillary

Saying Clinton And Trump Are The Same
“If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination, I’m not going to bother voting in November!” I have been seeing this more and more, and it is discouraging and disconcerting. Did Bernie Sanders refuse to vote on anything, just because he felt that he wouldn’t win? Of course not, and Bernie supporters shouldn’t either.

Not to mention that, although they differ on several key issues, Sanders and Clinton have voted the same 93 percent of the time.

Yes, Clinton supported Wall Street bailouts and supports the TPP.

Yes, Sanders’s stance on gun control is not as strong as what many left-leaning folks would like.

But in both cases, it is wrong to reduce their candidacy to one issue. The fact that either candidate has a real opinion and voting record on any of these things puts them in an entirely different class than Donald Trump, and people who think otherwise are deluding themselves.

When liberal-minded folks work together, we can achieve great social progress. If Bernie’s political career has taught us anything, it is to be perpetually optimistic and to keep working toward improvement. If you believed in working towards a better America before, you should still believe in working towards a better America now. Let’s keep working, instead of sulking in a corner and spewing political nihilism


All-Or-Nothing Thinking
Merriam-Webster defines “liberal” as “not opposed to new ideas or ways of behaving that are not traditional or widely accepted.” Liberals are open-minded by definition! Closed-mindedness and an unwillingness to engage with new ideas is a conservative thing.

As members of the liberal community, we must hold ourselves to a higher standard of discourse that what we’re hearing from the right. We become barriers to progress when we refuse to engage in good-faith discourse, choosing intstead of name-call and make personal attacks. We’re better than that.

I’m sure that this article will get me called “shill” and many other creative names. Which is sad, really, because I’m used to being called names from backwards conservatives. It’s too bad that I am now expecting to be called names from fellow liberals. How about instead of #NeverHillary, we try #NeverNameCalling or #NeverDisrespect? It’s less catchy, perhaps, but will ultimately lead to greater social change.

I think that we should all follow Sanders’s example and continue to be involved and invested in our collective future.


If you still will not vote for the Democratic nominee, then I doubt you ever would.

Posted by liberal N proud | Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:37 PM (5 replies)

The contrast on DU is amazing

Admittedly, I have not ventured into GD-P much but the rest of the groups and forums seem to be well focused on trouncing Trump with a little celebration.

Only a few hold outs that I have seen, nothing like it was a few days ago.

Posted by liberal N proud | Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:10 AM (7 replies)

Hillary Clinton Has Clinched Democratic Nomination, Survey Reports

By AMY CHOZICK and PATRICK HEALYJUNE 6, 2016

On Monday, Hillary Clinton gathered commitments from enough delegates to become the presumptive presidential nominee for the Democratic party, according to Associated Press.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS on Publish Date June 6, 2016. Photo by Monica Almeida/The New York Times. Watch in Times Video »


Hillary Clinton became the first woman to capture the presidential nomination of one of the country’s major political parties on Monday night, according to an Associated Press survey of Democratic superdelegates, securing enough of them to overcome a bruising challenge from Senator Bernie Sanders and turn to a brutal five-month campaign against Donald J. Trump.

In a yearlong nomination fight full of surprise twists, from the popularity of Mr. Sanders to the success of Mr. Trump, the revelation that Mrs. Clinton had clinched the nomination was another startling development — especially coming on the eve of major primaries in California, New Jersey and other states. Mr. Sanders added to the drama by refusing to accept the A.P. survey and vowing to fight on, while Mr. Trump argued that he had done more for women than Mrs. Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton was ebullient but also restrained as she received the news at an uncanny moment — almost eight years to the day after she ended her campaign against Barack Obama before a crowd of many teary women and girls. On Monday night, she shared the breakthrough with a jubilant audience at a campaign stop in Long Beach, Calif.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-race.html?emc=edit_th_20160607&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0
Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:44 AM (2 replies)

Hillary Clinton Has Clinched Democratic Nomination, Survey Reports

By AMY CHOZICK and PATRICK HEALYJUNE 6, 2016

On Monday, Hillary Clinton gathered commitments from enough delegates to become the presumptive presidential nominee for the Democratic party, according to Associated Press.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS on Publish Date June 6, 2016. Photo by Monica Almeida/The New York Times. Watch in Times Video »


Hillary Clinton became the first woman to capture the presidential nomination of one of the country’s major political parties on Monday night, according to an Associated Press survey of Democratic superdelegates, securing enough of them to overcome a bruising challenge from Senator Bernie Sanders and turn to a brutal five-month campaign against Donald J. Trump.

In a yearlong nomination fight full of surprise twists, from the popularity of Mr. Sanders to the success of Mr. Trump, the revelation that Mrs. Clinton had clinched the nomination was another startling development — especially coming on the eve of major primaries in California, New Jersey and other states. Mr. Sanders added to the drama by refusing to accept the A.P. survey and vowing to fight on, while Mr. Trump argued that he had done more for women than Mrs. Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton was ebullient but also restrained as she received the news at an uncanny moment — almost eight years to the day after she ended her campaign against Barack Obama before a crowd of many teary women and girls. On Monday night, she shared the breakthrough with a jubilant audience at a campaign stop in Long Beach, Calif.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-race.html?emc=edit_th_20160607&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0
Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:43 AM (0 replies)

Hillary Clinton Has Clinched Democratic Nomination, Survey Reports

By AMY CHOZICK and PATRICK HEALYJUNE 6, 2016

On Monday, Hillary Clinton gathered commitments from enough delegates to become the presumptive presidential nominee for the Democratic party, according to Associated Press.
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS on Publish Date June 6, 2016. Photo by Monica Almeida/The New York Times. Watch in Times Video »


Hillary Clinton became the first woman to capture the presidential nomination of one of the country’s major political parties on Monday night, according to an Associated Press survey of Democratic superdelegates, securing enough of them to overcome a bruising challenge from Senator Bernie Sanders and turn to a brutal five-month campaign against Donald J. Trump.

In a yearlong nomination fight full of surprise twists, from the popularity of Mr. Sanders to the success of Mr. Trump, the revelation that Mrs. Clinton had clinched the nomination was another startling development — especially coming on the eve of major primaries in California, New Jersey and other states. Mr. Sanders added to the drama by refusing to accept the A.P. survey and vowing to fight on, while Mr. Trump argued that he had done more for women than Mrs. Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton was ebullient but also restrained as she received the news at an uncanny moment — almost eight years to the day after she ended her campaign against Barack Obama before a crowd of many teary women and girls. On Monday night, she shared the breakthrough with a jubilant audience at a campaign stop in Long Beach, Calif.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-presidential-race.html?emc=edit_th_20160607&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=45299538&_r=0
Posted by liberal N proud | Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:16 AM (0 replies)

This conspiracy theory is hilarious

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280208538

Posted by liberal N proud | Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:59 PM (8 replies)
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