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Jake Tapper stuns Jeb Bush: If your brother is blameless for 9/11 why is Hillary Clinton responsible


This is such an obvious question, and if Democratic politicians had any spine, they would have asked this a hell of a long time ago, and some variation of it well before Benghazi.

This one question and a couple of aggressive follow up ones, could drive a stake in the heart of any GOP claim to "tough" on defense, and should kill them as a party.

They are not tough on defense. They are "tough" on killing people in other countries to get what they're corporate masters want.

And if their masters are happy with how a country does business with them, why they will look the other way (or worse), just as they did with the Saudi government involvement in 9/11.

That Democrats in and running for political office don't pursue this shows it's just one other area where they don't want any daylight between themselves and the GOP.

But if they aren't on the right side when enough people aren't afraid to ask these questions out loud, they could end up with the GOP as a footnote in history.

TAPPER: Obviously Al Qaeda was responsible for the terrorist attack of 9/11, but how do you respond to critics who ask, if your brother and his administration bear no responsibility at all, how do you then make the jump that President Obama and Secretary Clinton are responsible for what happened at Benghazi?

JEB BUSH: Well I ó the question on Benghazi which, is hopefully weíll now finally get the truth to, is was the place secure? They had a responsibility, the Department of State, to have proper security. There were calls for security, it looks like they didnít get it. And how was the response in the aftermath of the attack, was there a chance that these four American lives could have been saved? Thatís what the investigation is about, itís not a political issue. Itís not about the broad policy issue, is were we doing the job of protecting our embassies and our consulates and during the period, those hours after the attack started, could they have been saved?

TAPPER: Well thatís, thatís kind of proving the point of the critics I was just asking about, because you donít want to have your brother bear responsibility for 9/11 and I understand that argument and Al Qaedaís responsible, but why are the terrorists not the ones who are responsible for these attacks in Libya?

BUSH: They are, of course they are but ó of course they are, but if the ambassador was asking for additional security and didnít get it, thatís a proper point and if itís proven that the security was adequate compared to other embassies, fine, weíll move on.



What is the stupidest question that WILL be asked tonight?

One of my all time favorites was a horse race question Ted Koppel asked in 2004: "If Governor Dean wins the nomination, how many of you think he could win the general election in November?"

That put all the candidates in an awkward position because if they raised their hands, it would be a tacit endorsement of Dean, and if they didn't, it would be used against Dean in the fall campaign if he had won.

It also put Dean in the awkward position of raising his hand for himself, which looked like tooting his own horn in the lamest way possible (but not raising would be worse).

All of which had nothing to do with which candidate would serve the interests of the American people, as Dennis Kucinich pointed out to Koppel.

What questions SHOULD be asked at the debate tonight?

Some of mine I've tweeted:

#CNNDebate #DemDebate Sanders said end privatized prisons, but isn't all privatization of gov't corporate welfare & political corruption?

Will you declassify Saudi pages of Congress 9/11 Report? Should Saudi gov't have been punished for role in 9/11?

Where has our regime changes produced positive results in the Middle East?

Will you back the overthrow of democratically elected leaders of countries that don't obey banks and corporations?

Will you continue using religious extremists to undermine secular regimes like we did in Libya & are doing in Syria?

I'll send a couple more and post them in replies.

TWEETED questions for upcoming Democratic Debate

#CNNDebate #DemDebate Sanders said end privatized prisons, but isn't all privatization of gov't corporate welfare & political corruption?

Will you declassify Saudi pages of Congress 9/11 Report? Should Saudi gov't have been punished for role in 9/11?

Where has our regime changes produced positive results in the Middle East?

Will you back the overthrow of democratically elected leaders of countries that don't obey banks and corporations?

Will you continue using religious extremists to undermine secular regimes like we did in Libya & are doing in Syria?

More to follow. I gotta go to class.

why will removing Syria's leader work better than it did in Afghanistan Iraq or Libya?

All of those countries have descended into chaos and turned into havens for Islamic extremists which is what our government claims to be fighting against.

Probably the best off is Afghanistan. Where we could claim life at least isn't worse than when we got there. Except maybe for the boys who are molested by the troops we trained.

Can anyone make a coherent argument for removing a side that acknowledges history like recent history in the past 20 years maybe?

RAVITCH: Arizona Will Boost Charter Funding by Cutting Public School Budgets

There seems to be a bipartisan consensus that if public spending doesn't put some money directly in the pockets of the already wealthy it should be cut.

It's too bad we don't have at least one major party that fights against that corrupt logic.

Arizonaís Governor Doug Ducey appointed a commission to fix school funding. The commission has decided that The schools donít need more money, even though the state is one of the lowest spending in the nation. Whatís needed is more funding for charters. The pie stays the same, but the underfunded public schools will lose money to the charters.

A large proportion of the students in Arizona are of Hispanic origin. I wonder if any of their parents served on Governor Ducey Ďs commission?


TWEET JEB!: Your brother didn't protect us on 9/11

Not that Jeb has much chance of winning at this point, but he shouldn't be able to brag about his brother "keeping America safe for eight years."

I can kind of see why his primary opponents don't put a fork in that talking point, but it is criminal malpractice that leaders of the Democratic Party don't.

There was some argument for lining up behind Bush for a while after 9/11, but 14 years later, there is no reason to give Bush and his party a pass on this.

I tweeted this to Jeb:

@JebBush Your brother didn't protect us on 9/11. Just about every other president did a better job of protecting Americans in America.

I forgot to add, feel free to tweet this to JEB! yourself. This should be the only thing people see in his twitter feed.

Lindsey Graham: 28 Pages Could Damage "Allies"

A couple of things about this.

1. Random citizens ask better questions than mainstream journalists.

2. Lindsay Graham said releasing the truth about Saudi role in 9/11 would "damage" them, essentially implying some official guilt.

3. I don't necessarily buy or know if the version of the story Graham is telling here is true or not, but at least it's an insult to our intelligence like most of the stuff most politicians say about this.

4. Graham's description of Saudi and Pakistan (oddly, the person asking the question didn't mention Pakistan having a role in 9/11) could easily apply to OUR government's dealing with religious extremists up through ISIS.

5. None of this is meant as an endorsement of Lindsay Graham in any way. If he told the truth, it was because he was caught off guard.

What is or would be the difference between Biden as opposed to Hillary in policies?

I know there are differences in "style," but style doesn't put food on the table or stop wars and unnecessary cuts to the safety net to make the rich richer.

Echoes of LA riots in FEAR THE WALKING DEAD

The first two episodes of FEAR THE WALKING DEAD have really haunted me even though none of the characters we are supposed to care about have been killed and/or turned into zombies, and I couldn't figure out why.

Then I realized: I lived through this.

I lived in downtown LA during the LA riots, in an old hotel USC had converted to a dorm.

I had been playing tennis at the beach with a friend when we saw the riots start on TV, so I figured I'd better get home. Driving back to downtown LA, I saw fires on both sides of the 10 freeway.

From the roof of our building, we could see smoke from fires to our east, south, and west, East LA, South Central, Koreatown respectively. That is, we could watch them until a cop came into our building and told us to get off the roof or they would shoot us.

Some people in the dorm were talking about getting the hell out of town going north, but someone said they heard there was a sniper on the freeway north, so no one was leaving until things settled down.

At one point, a cop caught a looter at a Foot Locker we could see from our building, and instead of throwing her in the back of the squad car, he handcuffed her to iron fence around a tree and drove off.

FEAR THE WALKING DEAD is set in a neighborhood just past Koreatown.

On of the resident advisors in our dorm was from Beirut, Lebanon and said it was just like back home, but he didn't seem any less disturbed than the rest of us.

Like in the show, the police seemed overwhelmed, ineffectual, and at best, not necessarily on our side, especially your skin was darker than a paper bag.

The second day, a couple of my friends and I decided to drive around town and see what was going on. Looters at Pep Boys, an auto parts store, ran in front of my car with a set of tires. We saw building burning across the street from the USC campus, and train of cop cars screaming down the street in a row. Ironically, we saw the biggest police presence in Beverly Hills and nothing was going on there. We went north to the Valley, and people were lined up out the doors of grocery stores stocking up for a long siege or a getaway (even though there didn't seem to be any violence going on there).

Unlike the show, all of it was covered on TV, we knew what started it (cops beat the crap out of Rodney King on film and were acquitted), and it came to a definite end around the time troops showed up.

And the violence was not done by zombies, but was at least started by people who realized the acquittal meant they could be killed with impunity by the authorities who were supposed to protect their lives, and they would have no recourse in the legal system.

That virus is still alive today. We see it every time the cops shoot and kill an unarmed black kid, choke out a black guy for selling loose cigarettes, or arrest a black activist for pulling over to get out of a cop's way without signaling.

Somehow, the public doesn't erupt into chaos and violence on the scale of the Los Angeles riots.

Because the public hasn't reacted that way, we see the virus isn't them or in them. The virus is in our society and those we trust with authority.

All it will take for the facade of civilization to break down is video of a couple of white middle class teens and white loose cigarette sellers getting killed by cops too and middle and working class white people realizing that those who control the cops don't value the lives of any race if they get in the way of their control and profit.

We already live in the world of FEAR THE WALKING DEAD. We just don't know it.
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