Yes, yes, tsk tsk. There is still one entire irritatingly unlocked thread left on DU in which people refer to attractive members of the opposite, or same, sex as "hot"

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

all sorts of people are desperately pulling all sorts of creative "alternatives" out of their rears.

Robert Samuelson's idea of a "good deal" on taxes sounds oddly like something coming from someone who thinks Romney won the race:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-samuelson-the-fiscal-cliff-deal-we-need/2012/11/18/3870f9c6-3014-11e2-9f50-0308e1e75445_story.html





Yes, how reasonable, Bob- let the top rate go back to pre-Bush levels for one whole year (!!!) after which, of course, we HAVE to find a way to get the rates for the poor oppressed top bracket (the so-called "wealthy" harumph harumph because no one can afford that 2nd house in the Hamptons on a measly impoverished 250K a yr harumph harumph) back down lower than they already are- say, 30%, slobber slobber drool drool.



How about this: We have an income tax in place. Large transfers of money (as opposed to assets) are ALREADY reported to the IRS. Raising the top marginal rate is a fairly simple matter, and wouldn't require any fancy new reporting or ideas.

so discovering my inner remdi95 will have to wait.

I said I agreed with yardwork that in this context "p*ssy" is offensive and a broad slur. I also explained my reasoning. That's not a "mea culpa", in fact, I've never expressed a different opinion about "p*ssy" in this context NOR did I weigh in on the original thread.

But, see, that's because I'm interested in the actual underlying meanings of the words and engaging in a rational discussion of them, not focusing endlessly on whether something constitutes a "win" or a"point" or "my team".

Also, it's meta. There is a well established tradition of using the popcorn smiley in reaction to an expected flame fest. that you immediately decided to get outraged about THAT, I think, says an awful lot about ... shit, something.

Let me break it down for you: "p*ssy"? In the context of the linked OP? Offensive. Popcorn in the context of the post YOU are now fulminating bout? Not so much.

in your OP.

You've been asked, repeatedly in this thread, where precisely these "extremists" are who are arguing for abortion right up until the second before birth? What exact situation in the real world, and not the fevered brains of right wing radio hosts doing "thought experiments", would this shit actually come up?

Oh, one extreme is very real: Not only does the entire anti-choice movement hinge upon the conceit that there is no difference between a fertilized egg and a baby, making them equivalent (and, by extension, outlawing not just abortion but IVF and most forms of birth control) is the core of the legislative agenda.

On the other "extreme" you've got.. well, nobody. There are no legions of people "demanding" to abort right before birth. Why? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FUCKING HAPPEN, and the presumption or "fear" that it might is frankly insulting to the central philosophical no-brainer behind what it means to be pro-choice, namely that women themselves can and and should be the ones in charge of making these decisions about their bodies and their pregnancies.

What is the common thread to all the anti-choice bargle, to all the shit about "legitimate rape" and all the grousy whining by frustrated old white-haired dudes about how if women are "allowed" to get "exemptions" for health or rape they'll just take advantage of them So they can sneaksy sneaksy get abortionses that they shouldntses?



Tricksy! Tricksy womenses!

It's the idea that women can't be trusted to make the call themselves. It's the presumption that women, some women, women who get abortions, whatever-- they're doing it wrong and we know better and for goodness sake someone needs to correct their behavior. Because we know better than they do.


OTOH, the reason these states you refer to allow abortion "without restriction" is because these states understand that WOMEN CAN DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WITH THEIR DOCTORS. When abortions take place later in pregnancies, usually it's for medical reasons. Pregnancies go wrong or other situations arise that, ah, maybe state legislators aren't the best people to pre-emptively figure out in a law. So that's why there's "no restrictions". Not because these states are leaving the door open for some "irresponsible" "woo-hoo-let's get a late term abortion because we can!" shit that, again, only exists in the imaginations of anti-choicers.

The idea that abortion needs "restriction", that somehow women can't be trusted to make that call themselves about their own bodies and pregnancies- when they can, and they do- that is offensive.

you could have taken that opportunity, as she hauled her arthritic knees through DC holding a big-ass Planned Parenthood sign, to lecture her on her shortcomings as a Feminist because of her word choices.