Electric Larry
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I've learned from long experience that commenting on what people choose to get outraged over, here
invariably turns into another outrage, and before you know it you are stuck in an outrage feedback loop.
So I'm just going to line my helmet with cottage cheese and go back to bed. 
"shouting fire in a crowded theater" is perhaps the most torturously overused metaphor in existence
and it's also incorrect.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/
So let me flip it back on you, with the point I was making originally that you responded to- do you think it should be illegal for people to draw "blasphemous" cartoons?
That 18 trillion number is bullshit. Widely debunked.
The fact of the matter is it is disingenuous- to say the least- to claim that "18 trillion of free stuff" which includes suppsedly 17 trillion in health care spending, is somehow a logical asssement of the proposal when it negates the fact that a single payer plan would eliminate not just the overhead of the private insurance industry (estimated in some cases as up to 20% on top of the other costs) but would also take peoples' insurance premiums out of the equation entirely.
But according to the CDC, total health spending in the US is 3 Trillion dollars, more or less. So to believe this "17 trillion" bullshit, you would have to imagine that putting everyone in the country under a single payer plan would magically multiply total spending on health care costs by nearly SIX FUCKING TIMES.
health care isnt like grass-fed beef. People dont run out and get extra triple bypasses that they dont need just because now they can afford it. And if total spending would go up, what that means is there are a lot of people who ARENT getting the care they need, under the current arrangement.
But my main point is, "FREE STUFF WARRRRGGHHHBLLLLLL" is a boilerplate right wing meme, chief.
They're just waking up, I know just what they'll do! Their mouths will hang open a minute or two
Then the Whos down in Whoville will all cry, "Boo Hoo!"
That's a noise, (the Grinch said,) that I simply must hear!
Narrator: So he paused, And the Grinch put a hand to his ear.
And he did hear a sound rising over the snow.
It started in low.
Then it started to grow...
But this-- the sound wasn't sad.
Why, this sound sounded glad!
Obama paid respect to her, and got some zingers in on her, too
Specifically about how her campaign comes off like something thrown together by your well-meaning but massively out of touch grandparents, who still cant figure out how to operate the cable box.
Why don't you spend 1/10th of that energy fixing the fucking system and law?
It doesn't matter what he did before, he's CURRENTLY facing that time because of the 2 joints. You think that's justified? He was on his bike with some weed in his pocket, and ALL his priors involved drug possession charges, nothing else. How precisely the fuck is the public served by sticking this guy in prison for a decade?
Spin, Spin, Spin. You said find one, I found one in about 5 seconds. Now you want to move the goalposts. At least you're not trying to run with "but he wasnt actually smoking it at the time"
I think it's your turn to answer my question: why is it so important that the drug war - which almost everyone not directly on the gravy train acknowledges, is a failure - continue unimpeded?
People with puritannical, control fetishes almost always end up being the seriously fucked ones.
Look at Bill Cosby. I always thought there was something unsettling about his sanctimonious, preachy shtick.
Scratch a pompous finger-wagger, and often you will find a hypocrite, if not a dangerous criminal. 
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