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How molecular can the splinters in Syria get?

Does anyone else recognize the global dangers that a complete loss of command, control and coherence among armed factions in the region will cause?

Was DOJ expecting to find Risen's sources through accessing his credit scores and bank records?

Or, did DOJ just want to sell him a used car?


Response to article post: "Feds spy on NYT reporter in leak probe" (Politico)

Thnx. The twisting of the narrative by the GOP probably benefits Obama in the long run by obscuring

the real issues at stake - the unanticipated costs of serial blowback and the failure of the "humanitarian" regime change model. That's an irony that the Repugs probably don't grasp.

But, blowback from the Libyan and Syrian regime changes, and the earlier covert operations in Chechnya, Kosovo and Bosnia, are actually part of a larger ongoing disaster for the US. The Soviet Union's collapse has resulted not in a peace dividend but the rise of ambitious and wealthy adversaries, and further overextension of the U.S. Each failure to restabilize after a setback illustrates how little real power we still have to effect outcomes in the MENA region and South Asia. Like the Russians before us, our interventions only weaken us and show the rest of the world just how vulnerable and rusted out we have become. The American people are the only ones fooled by all the secrecy and disinformation that goes along with these operations.

We are only beginning to feel the real domino effect - serial blowback from a whole series of misconceptualized covert operations and failed regime changes carried out over several decades. Secret wars never end. They are now cascading into each other -- the terrorists we supported in the Transcaucasus, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Iraq now turn on us -- making the situation ever more chaotic and uncontrollable. In the midst of this we aren't even trying to contain the rise of Saudi Arabia/GCC as the dominant power in the region, and the Saudis and their Sunni proxies really, really don't like us at all, in the same way the Egyptians and Persians hate the British. But, this is far worse than the collapse of the British Empire, because we have been continually at war for well over a decade, and haven't even begun to create an exit strategy for ourselves. We can't even admit that it is our "allies" who have been funding AQ and are reaping the benefits as they fill our vacuum of power.

The bipartisan Cold War establishment in Washington now has to operate largely in secret because of public revulsion to the colossal debacle of Iraq and its costs, the buildup to which which was itself a semi-covert operation backed by the same people who are still largely in charge. They continue to run US foreign policy by the same strategy of propaganda and deception aimed at the American people as they did during Iran-Contra and the buildup to the invasion of Iraq. I don't have a lot of confidence that the thing can change course and save itself.

Looks like the "Make the economy scream" people are back in the saddle in DC again.

Yes, you know who you are.

Response to LBN post: "Now Venezuela is running out of toilet paper"

As we know, when white Republicans do that, it isn't an act of terrorism (worth mentioning).

Who granted The Army of God Air Force a C(4)?

AP report contradicted White House claims: no known AQ plot on bin Laden anniversary

Here's the AP report of May 7, 2012 that spurred the DOJ to secretly collect AP phone records. That article draws into question statements previously made by the White House and Homeland Security officials that there was no known AQ plotting of an attack to coincide with the anniversary of bin Laden's death. http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=8650811

WASHINGTON -- The CIA thwarted an ambitious plot by al-Qaida's affiliate in Yemen to destroy a U.S.-bound airliner using a bomb with a sophisticated new design around the one-year anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden, The Associated Press has learned.

The plot involved an upgrade of the underwear bomb that failed to detonate aboard a jetliner over Detroit on Christmas 2009. This new bomb was also designed to be used in a passenger's underwear, but this time al-Qaida developed a more refined detonation system, U.S. officials said. The FBI is examining the latest bomb to see whether it could have passed through airport security and brought down an airplane, officials said. They said the device did not contain metal, meaning it probably could have passed through an airport metal detector. But it was not clear whether new body scanners used in many airports would have detected it.

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White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said President Barack Obama learned about the plot in April and was assured the device posed no threat to the public. "The president thanks all intelligence and counterterrorism professionals involved for their outstanding work and for serving with the extraordinary skill and commitment that their enormous responsibilities demand," Hayden said.

The operation unfolded even as the White House and Department of Homeland Security assured the American public that they knew of no al-Qaida plots against the U.S. around the anniversary of bin Laden's death. The operation was carried out over the past few weeks, officials said. "We have no credible information that terrorist organizations, including al-Qaida, are plotting attacks in the U.S. to coincide with the anniversary of bin Laden's death," White House press secretary Jay Carney said on April 26. On May 1, the Department of Homeland Security said, "We have no indication of any specific, credible threats or plots against the U.S. tied to the one-year anniversary of bin Laden's death." The White House did not explain those statements Monday.

America, of course, embodies the spirit, legacy and methods of such Cromwellian solutions.

Just ask those who were here before, and what we continue to do around the world.

Thatcher suggested 'Cromwell solution' for Northern Ireland
From The Guardian Saturday 16 June 2001 02.04 BST

Thatcher suggested 'Cromwell solution' for Northern Ireland

A year after Brighton bombing, PM saw mass shift of Catholics from Ulster to Irish Republic as a way to end the Troubles

Special report: Northern Ireland

Margaret Thatcher horrified her advisers when she recommended that the government should revive the memory of Oliver Cromwell - dubbed the butcher of Ireland - and encourage tens of thousands of Catholics to leave Ulster for the south.

A year after she was nearly killed in the IRA's 1984 Brighton bomb, the then prime minister expressed dismay at Catholic opposition to British rule when they could follow the example of ancestors who were evicted from Ulster at the barrel of a Cromwellian gun in the 17th century.

Ok - The NRA is an industrial lobby surrounded by a kill cult candy shell. Close enough?

Arm the toddlers. Harden the nurseries. More and bigger guns are always the answer.

RESPONSE TO LATEST BREAKING NEWS: "Man opens fire in two daycares; kills self"

Jihadists, not Assad, apparently behind reported chemical attack in Syria

Source: Haaretz

The explosion claimed the lives of Syrian Armed Forces soldiers who are apparently loyal to Assad, and the Syrian government was quick to demand an international investigation of the incident. These two facts would indicate that Assad's forces were not behind the attack.

In addition, from what has been released of the physical and medical evidence, it seems that some of the injuries were caused by chlorine. While chlorine gas has been used in the past as a weapon, mainly in the First World War, the chemical arsenals of nations developing these weapons have for decades focused mainly on mustard gas and various types of nerve agents, which, had they been used last week, would have caused different symptoms that were not observed.

It appears that the target of the attack was a checkpoint manned by Syrian Armed Forces, which reinforces the theory that rebel forces, probably jihadists known to be operating around Aleppo, were behind it. A report by Britain's Channel Four, based on Syrian military sources, claims that the weapon used in the attack may have been a missile carrying a warhead filled with chlorine mixed into a saline solution. The Syrian source also said that a factory that manufactures chlorine is located nearby.

If these claims are true, it would seem to prove that the jihadists have the technical expertise necessary to insert chlorine gas into a warhead and seal it so that the gas does not leak during launch but only upon impact with the target.

Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/jihadists-not-assad-apparently-behind-reported-chemical-attack-in-syria.premium-1.511680

It now appears that the weapon was an improvised chemical munition, of the type used by the opposition on several occasions in the "Sunni Triangle" area during the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Whatever that thing was, it certainly wasn't a Scud-C tipped with a Sarin gas warhead.

Contrary to initial speculation, this wasn't any sort of organized military operation by the Syrian military. If it was, hundreds or thousands of people would have died almost instantly in a big area around a large crater near some militarily significant target.

Here are several sources on the 2007 Chlorine bombings in Iraq. Note that Fallujah and Ramadi are strongholds within the "Sunni Triangle" where these attacks initially took place. If the details about Chlorine-based improvised chemical weapons are accurate, this attack in Syria may be by some of the same people:

Chlorine bombings in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chlorine bombings in Iraq began as early as October 2006, when insurgents in Al ... February 19, 2007: A suicide bombing in Ramadi involving chlorine killed ...

Iraq Insurgents Employ Chlorine in Bomb Attacks - New York Times
Feb 22, 2007 At least three truck bombs in a month have used the gas, which burns the skin and can be fatal after only a few concentrated breaths.

Chlorine Blasts Kill 8; 6 Troops Also Die in Iraq
http://www.washingtonpost.com World Middle East Iraq
Sunday, March 18, 2007 ... The chlorine bombs -- two near Fallujah and one near Ramadi -- left at least 350 people and seven U.S. soldiers ill from exposure to ...

Chlorine bombs pose new terror risk - USATODAY.com
Apr 23, 2007 Updated 4/24/2007 8:51 AM | Comment | Recommend, E-mail | Print ... At least five chlorine truck bombs have exploded in Iraq in recent ...

Iraq Insurgents Turn to Chlorine Bombs : NPR
http://www.npr.org News World Iraq
Feb 22, 2007 At least five people died in such an attack Wednesday, the third in a ... Iraq Insurgents Turn to Chlorine Bombs ... February 22, 2007

Most likely, this event was an attempt by the Syrian opposition or its foreign backers to create some sort of Tonkin Gulf-type incident during Obama's ME trip, manipulated and telegraphed by opportunistic western intelligence and media. The other possibility is an unauthorized strike using a small quantity of some chemical stocks after someone, on one side or the other, got into an unsecured arms depot.

If you want to know who's been stoking the drive toward greater western intervention, look at the sources that continue to label this as an official Syrian military action and raise it as a "red line" violation. See, http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57576009/red-line-has-been-crossed-in-syria-rogers-says/ That, we know from the basic facts now emerging from Syria, is obviously not any more accurate than the lies told to get the U.S. to invade Iraq a decade ago.
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