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Theodore Shoebat, the son of anti-Islam activist Walid Shoebat, and an anti-gay activist in his own right, railed against the "Sodomite nazis" who are attacking Phil Robertson "simply because he pointed out a truth to the darkness of the sick, violent, and twisted mindset of homosexuals"
To many modern Christians, allowing homosexuality as a right is esteemed as being “free under Christ,” as though Christ believed that evil deserves freedom. I find no freedom for the sodomite ever specified in the Bible or in any teaching in Church tradition.
Father is a fake terrorist, son spews REAL terrorist rhetoric and threats. What a change.
Posted by ck4829 | Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:31 PM (3 replies)
Throughout the 1980s, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) -- now infamous for its work on behalf of “stand your ground” laws and restrictions on voting rights -- was instrumental in pushing anti-gay policies throughout the country, according to documents recently uncovered by People For the American Way and the Center For Media and Democracy.
A 1985 policy memo entitled “Homosexuals: Just Another Minority Group” sums up ALEC’s anti-gay policy positions and the false claims and outrageous stereotypes on which they were based. ALEC disseminated the memo to its public sector members, arguing that the “homosexual movement has had an impact too great and far reaching for Americans to ignore.”
Through the policy memo and its monthly newsletters, ALEC tracked local, state and federal legislation and provided its members with “research” to help them prevent advances in gay rights. However ALEC of course did not view these rights as rights; instead, ALEC asserted that the gay community was organizing “to achieve the privileges it thinks it deserves.”
So what “privileges” exactly were gay people demanding that infuriated ALEC so much? To name a few, the “privilege” to not be physically assaulted for being gay; the “privilege” of not being incarcerated for being gay; the “privilege” of not being barred from employment opportunities, housing and public accommodations for being gay; the “privilege” to dress as they liked; or the “privilege” of not being compiled into state directories to be blacklisted and discriminated against.
Some pretty disturbing stuff in here, includes the 'categorization' of gays, stereotypes, the homosexual recruitment conspiracy theory which they said is something that unites all 'categories' of gays, and they're HOMOSEXUAL so they must be SEXUAL in nature.
Posted by ck4829 | Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:47 AM (0 replies)
Now, rarely, people do claim that demons and being gay are linked (Although it does happen). But there is more to it than that, there was a moral panic involving "Satanic Ritual Abuse" in the early 1980's and going through to the early 1990's; today's homophobia may have taken many of the rhetoric and symbols and incorporated them into it's own movement.
Let's find out what and how.
Cabals and Conspiracies
The mighty Homosexual Agenda, the secret society of gays who are using the book "After the Ball" to enact their sinister agenda... of being accepted. Or something like that. Just how evil is the Homosexual Agenda? Well, in 2004, Senator Tom Coburn said it was worse than terrorism. And in 2010, the Family Research Council produced a graphic labeled "Homosexual Agenda" and had phrases such as "Innocence" and "Family" crossed out.
Sound familiar? It should. During the Satanic Ritual Abuse Panic, it was alleged that Satanists, Druids, and Witches were conspiring to control world affairs, the media, and get into Churches to make them Satan friendly... just like the secret Homosexual Agenda to get rid of Churches. What a coincidence.
I was a Teenage Zombie!
The right loves their out-of-bondage stories. So-called ex-gays are the focus here. The examples are dwindling as more and more realize ex-gay treatment is harmful and also realizing that sexual orientation can't really be changed, but the right still clings to this.
This isn't exclusive to gays either, there are also stories of ex-Islamic terrorists who make questionable claims as well, Kamal Saleem (AKA the GRAND WAZIR OF ISLAM) and Walid Shoebat (Who said he firebombed Bank Leumi but the bank said it's bogus) are examples of this targeted group.
Turns out, there were ex-satanists during the Panic as well. Mike Warnke was the Panic's version of John Paulk (He doesn't claim to be ex-gay anymore) or Walid Shoebat. Warnke said he was a satanist, but left to join the Christians, but he had an insider view of the Satanic conspiracy. The claims were exposed as complete lies (By an Evangelical magazine). Ironically, Warnke warned people to stay away hucksters coming in the name of Christ (He was referring to John Todd, another fraudulent Ex-Satanist in particular)... and then passed a collection plate along as he needed cash to save people from human sacrifice by Satanists.
Symbols that mean Something
The Satanic Ritual Abuse Panic had secret symbols everywhere according to the experts. Stars usually. These were secret pentagrams. The stars on the flag of the European Union or the symbol of Procter & Gamble were said to be the Satanist flag (AmWay distributors milked the latter as much as they could... pass the collection plate). Other symbols include the peace sign and the anarchy symbol.
And wouldn't you know it, the gays apparently have Secret Communication Skills as well. According to Peter LaBarbera, they STOLE the word "gay", they took rainbows, and they are taking the word "equality" as well.
Unlike the Satanists, the gays have mastered the delivery of their secret symbols in television. Tim Wildmon, the President of the American Family Association, agreed with a caller who said there was "evidence" of gay people on HGTV and Animal Planet. Wildmon expanded upon this, saying people have to watch out for it on shows for children as well.
Won't somebody please think of the children?
The two movements are very child-centric, and not in a good way. A very heavy part of the Satanic Ritual Abuse Panic was that the Conspiracy was out to recruit children, get into schools, sacrifice children, and even breed children to do this. Kee MacFarlane even testified in front of Congress, saying there was an organized national conspiracy of "orthodox satanic groups" that abused children. She provided no evidence of this, but you don't need evidence when there is a moral panic going on. This was seen in the McMartin preschool trial, now widely seen as a travesty of justice. Bizarre accusations of child sacrifice, flying through tunnels, going to Africa and coming back in the course of one day, and more were made.
And on the homophobic side, the accusations are also bizarre. Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition said that if a gay comes knocking on your door, and a boy answers the door, they may take him and run off with him. This is all a part of the Homosexual Recruitment idea, similar to the Homosexual Agenda idea above. And there are many ways that homosexuals recruit people according to homophobes, including by using anti-bullying. Because bullies help you stay straight apparently.
In 2003, Antonin Scalia wrote in his dissent to Lawrence v Texas that there was a "homosexual agenda" seeking to... change things. It's time to see homophobia for what it is, a panic, recycled from another panic.
Posted by ck4829 | Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:03 PM (3 replies)
On today's "Pray In Jesus Name" program, "Dr. Chaps" Gordon Klingenschmitt was discussing the UK Supreme Court's rejection of an appeal of an Northern Irish court ruling that granted same-sex and unmarried couples the right to adopt children.
While discussing the case, Klingenschmitt put a photo of two men and a baby on the screen so that he could point out that "one of the men almost has his tongue hanging out, like he's licking his chops, like this baby is ours now. And that's fine, you may call that love, but it looks to me a little bit like lust."
Klingenschmitt went on to say that gay couples "crave" to adopt "the children of heterosexual couples" so that they can raise and recruit them into the "homosexual lifestyle," declaring that allowing that to happen is child abuse.
Now, reading way bit too much into a photo and the idea that gays want to adopt children solely to 'recruit' them aside; did anyone notice else he went a bit too much on the mouth/eating features of the gay man, "tongue hanging out", "licking his chops", "crave" which composed the points of his diatribe against the photo?
That's a sign of some serious psychological issues and "Dr. Chaps" might want to get that looked at.
Posted by ck4829 | Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:43 AM (2 replies)
There is great joy to be had when one holds a new life in their arms, completes a book, finishes a great project, a life's work, overcoming adversity, seeing the world, and really, one could add to this in countless ways.
And then there is, I guess, what some might consider joy when they see someone getting their food stamps denied, or when they see a person admit they are running out of options, take pride in thinking they aren't the '47%' that all the 'others' are or think they are a 'maker' who is a member of the maker club, cheer and hoot when the question is to let someone without insurance just die, throwing job applications at protesters or pocket change at a man who says he needs health care reform, etc.
There is the base of needs; food, water, shelter. But, here we have a movement, an ideology, that is determined to cut access to that base, destroy programs that create a structure for that base, and shame people who use those programs.
And that is why the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party is the lowest of the low.
Posted by ck4829 | Sun Nov 3, 2013, 01:17 AM (0 replies)
Phyllis Schlafly claims that an assignment in an Illinois high school’s sociology class and a Oregon health class assignment dating back to 1984 are signs that the public education system is trying to “prepare us to accept death panels from Obamacare.”
The students were given the list of the 10 who desperately needed kidney dialysis with identification about their occupation, age and ethnicity, and told to give each a score. The instructions stated: “Put the people in order using 1-10, 1 being the person you want to save first and 10 being the person you would save last,” with the assumption that those getting scores 7 through 10 would be marked for death.
Naturally, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and Todd Starnes are also on the case.
Reagan was President on March 13, 1984, so this must mean... HE SUPPORTED OBAMACARE DEATH PANELS OVER 20 YEARS BEFORE OBAMA WAS EVEN PRESIDENT!!1! OH NO!!!!1!
Posted by ck4829 | Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:50 PM (15 replies)
On his radio program yesterday, Glenn Beck pointed to a victory by a far-right National Front candidate in an election in France to warn that if people don't stop calling Tea Party leaders such as Ted Cruz and Mike Lee "extremists," it'll give rise to a powerful Nazi Party in America.
"I guarantee you," Beck said, "if we don't wake up, if we don't stop calling people like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz extremists, you are going to see a Nazi-style party in this country."
Saying that the true Right is total anarchy and the true Left is big government Republicans like Mitch McConnell, Beck declared that "the real center of this country is Mike Lee; he is a reasonable man"
When I read this, it kind of stuck out to me, it looked familiar to something else, it looked like this...
"All Taliban are moderate. There are two things: extremism ("ifraat", or doing something to excess) and conservatism ("tafreet", or doing something insufficiently). So in that sense, we are all moderates – taking the middle path."
- Mohammed Omar, the leader of the Taliban
Where is Omar by the way?
Posted by ck4829 | Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:13 AM (0 replies)
Yet teachers are evil, public workers are evil, we don't have a CCC anymore, we don't have a WPA anymore, there is no real effort by these same people who say this to cut vicious circles keeping people unemployed (Use of credit as a hiring filter, telling unemployed not to apply), Christian Rightists telling people to not hire gays, our infrastructure is crumbling and nobody is working on it, streets lined with condemned homes, and there are even parks that are filling up with weeds and trash and nobody is touching them.
So they say that not working merits starvation, but yet there are jobs we shouldn't have and some of us who shouldn't have jobs according to these same people?
Posted by ck4829 | Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:52 AM (3 replies)
"Communism!" - Rich people will have to cut back
"Sacrifice." - Poor people will have to cut back
"They'll be afraid to invest in our economy!" - Rich people potentially facing hardship
"They need to have some more skin in the game." - Poor people potentially facing hardship
"Just the way the world works." or "Get over it." - Rich people having financial security
"UNIONS! PUBLIC WORKERS! GET RID OF THEM!" - Poor people having financial security
"Earners." - Rich people who do not work
"Parasites!" - Poor people who do not work
"..." - Rich people doing less work than you and earning much more
"!!!" - Poor people doing the same work or more than you and earning slightly more
"Well it's their money." - Rich person buying a car elevator
"What are they buying? *peers at cash register* How dare they buy that?!" - Poor person buying food with food stamps
"It's only $172,000 a year *sniffle*." - Rich person
"Utilities or groceries?" - Poor person
Posted by ck4829 | Fri Sep 20, 2013, 09:18 AM (2 replies)
“Conservatism is too cerebral for many Americans,” writes Rachel Alexander at the Christian Post. She claims that Republicans continue to lose elections “because people are lazy” and simply not smart enough to understand why Democrats are wrong on the issues.
“While Americans deep down prefer shows like Duck Dynasty, they're allowing the left to win on social issues,” Alexander said. “Republicans need to quit lamenting over the backwards fact that the most intelligent party is not the most successful.”
One way to change to “turn the tide” and improve the GOP’s image as a “cold and heartless” party, she writes, is to shame women who seek an abortion: “Portray the woman who wants to abort her baby as cruel and selfish, and showcase those children who grew up with permanent injuries as a result of an attempted, botched abortion. These kinds of portrayals must be done frequently and everywhere.”
That explains it. Christine O'Donnell and the birthers are just too intelligent for all the America troglodytes, you know, pretty much everyone now.
Posted by ck4829 | Tue Sep 17, 2013, 04:26 PM (19 replies)