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Republican House passes, and Obama endorses, expansion of surveillance (PCNA)

Remember when we fought off CISPA? Well, they're at it again, and this new bill is an even greater expansion of mass surveillance than before, as well as an assault on the ability of investigative journalists to do their job. In the words of one of the 55 civil liberties groups now expressing outrage, this bill "is little more than a backdoor for general purpose surveillance.”

Worse, the White House is publicly endorsing it.

Even worse, the PCNA is soon to be followed by another assault on privacy, The Cyber Information Sharing Act (CISA).

Civil liberties groups are trying to amass pressure for a presidential veto. Write, call, visit, and demand that this assault be stopped:

http://act.freepress.net/sign/internet_surveillance_cisa_obama/?t=4&akid=5193.9747712.Mo81SW




House Passes Cybersecurity Bill Despite Privacy Protests
http://www.wired.com/2015/04/house-passes-cybersecurity-bill-despite-privacy-protests/

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“PCNA would significantly increase the National Security Agency’s (NSA’s) access to personal information, and authorize the federal government to use that information for a myriad of purposes unrelated to cybersecurity,” reads a letter signed earlier this week by 55 civil liberties groups and security experts that includes the American Civil Liberties Union, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Freedom of the Press Foundation, Human Rights Watch and many others.
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Specifically, PCNA’s data-sharing privileges let companies give data to government agencies—including the NSA—that might otherwise have violated the Electronic Communications Privacy Act or the Wiretap Act, both of which restrict the sharing of users’ private data with the government. And PCNA doesn’t even restrict the use of that shared information to cybersecurity purposes; its text also allows the information to be used for investigating any potential threat of “bodily harm or death,” opening its application to the surveillance of run-of-the-mill violent crimes like robbery and carjacking.
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“I’m very disappointed that the house has passed an information sharing bill that does so much to threaten Americans’ privacy and civil liberties, and no real effort was made to address the problems the bill still had,” says Greene. “The rules committee has excluded amendments that would have resolved privacy concerns…“This is little more than a backdoor for general purpose surveillance.”

In a surprise move yesterday, the White House also publicly backed PCNA and its Senate counterpart, the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act in a statement to press. That’s a reversal of its threat to veto a similar Cybersecurity Information Sharing and Protection Act in 2013 over privacy concerns, a decision that all but killed the earlier attempt at cybersecurity data sharing legislation. Since then, however, a string of high-profile breaches seems to have swayed President Obama’s thinking, from the cybercriminal breaches of Target and health insurer Anthem that spilled millions of users’ data, to the devastating hack of Sony Pictures Entertainment, which the FBI has claimed was perpetrated as an intimidation tactic by the North Korean government to prevent the release of its Kim Jong-un assassination comedy the Interview.


House passes bill allowing corporations to share your data
http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/23/house-passes-protecting-cyber-networks-act/
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The issue appears to be the bill's lack of specificity. The PCNA would allow for data to flow between corporations via a government intermediary. Crucially, there are provisions that would allow the government to use these data outside of cyber threats. The civil liberties groups criticize the bill for allowing any data to also be used with the Espionage Act, making it ripe for abuse for things such as surveillance of journalists and their sources. While all this is going on, there's still the very real threat of more large scale attacks on corporations that could expose this very same data to anyone on the internet. The bill is still being finalized as it awaits approval from the Senate.





Posted by woo me with science | Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:18 PM (18 replies)

Another Twilight Zone denial from the "deny Hillary's entire record" corporate posting crew.

Notice that the posts about her corporate record extensively reference her actual behavior and record, whereas the denials always take some absurd form of 'Yeah, she worked on the TPP and praised it in speeches, but you can't prove she really meant it!'

This is the degree to which we are treated like absolute blithering idiots, incapable of drawing conclusions from a candidate's lengthy record of policy and associations.

And this is the Orwellian nonsense that passes for advocacy for a corporate candidate these days: Not laying out an impressive record of working for the 99 percent and opposing predatory policies like the TPP and bank bailouts and H1B visas and wars for profit and the surveillance state....but a record of working FOR these things, paired with a belligerent challenge that you can't *prove* she will continue to do all the horrible things her record and associations suggest she will.

It's Twilight Zone level propaganda, beyond insulting to anyone who follows the issues and understands the duty of a candidate to appeal to voters with a record. Hillary has been clear on all the issues detailed in my links, and she has chosen AGAINST the 99 percent on all of them. More importantly, these aren't minor issues. These are serious, serious issues at the heart of the corporate coup of democracy being perpetrated on this nation.


Reject Third Way propaganda. Reject denial and rewriting of history.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5767160






Posted by woo me with science | Thu Apr 9, 2015, 06:48 AM (5 replies)

We have much more in common with other 99 percenters than we have with the corporate One Percent.

It is corporate MO to divide, as this OP does. Build hatred between groups. But the truth is that we have much more in common with each other than we do with the corporate thieves who are looting and oppressing us all.

Below is the very best post I have read on DU in a while. It is by DUer, F4lconF16, and it exposes the MO of the corporate propaganda machine exactly:

On the contrary: there is a ton of money in that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6458575

They care about racism, sexism, and other forms of bigotry very much. You said as much yourself.

"And by having these serious differences they know they can keep us fighting between left and right while they get what they want on things that do matter to them"

It has been a tactic of the American elite since its very beginning. Our political and economic system is uniquely designed to fracture the working class, to keep us from uniting. It's why laws were passed in the early 1800s forbidding interracial communications--the poor Irish and the slaves were beginning to cause worry. It's why whites and blacks have had their hatreds stoked by their literal and financial masters against one another for the last 200 years. It's why gay marriage isn't legal everywhere yet, despite a majority of people supporting it. It's why women are still discriminated against (though there is a far, far longer history to that than just our political system, and indeed, political systems at all). Our entire political history has been carefully balanced oppression stacked on top of and woven into more carefully balanced oppression. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. So far it's worked more than it hasn't.

It is absolutely critical to keep us divided amongst ourselves. The elite care more about those issues than you might think, because without them, the people will realize their own power as one. They will become a single working class, rather than blacks and whites, men and women, straight and gay. We are a dangerous mass of humanity that would roll over them like the ocean rolls over a few pebbles.

This is why these social issues are just as important as the economic ones, the power struggles. They are utterly critical to maintaining the illusion that there is no true working class, that we are separate, different from one another. The elite care very much about maintaining that illusion.


Enough division. Enough hatred. Enough propaganda.

Red versus Blue is a scam, a tactic to keep us divided and unable to fight back. We are the 99 percent, and we are ALL the victims of the stunningly united corporate government that now rules and exploits us:


Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
TISA corporate overlord agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks? Both parties support it.
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Mass propaganda aimed at Americans? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it. Privatization of the TVA? Both parties support it.
Immunity for telecoms? Both parties support it.
"Looking forward" and letting war criminals off the hook? Both parties support it.
Deciding torturers are patriots? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Trillion dollar increase in nuclear weapons. Both parties support it.
New war in Iraq. Both parties support it.
New war in Syria. Both parties support it.
Carpet bombing of captive population in Gaza. Both parties support it.
Selling off swaths of the Gulf of Mexico for drilling? Both parties support it.
Drilling along the Atlantic Coast? Both parties support it.
Arctic drilling for Shell Oil? Both parties support it.


Done here. Seeking out OP's that focus on uniting to solve problems rather than using words like "insurgency" to foment hatred, suspicion, and division among Americans who share this nation and its future.

Reject Third Way propaganda. Reject the Two Minutes Hate and incessant attempts to divide.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5767160











Posted by woo me with science | Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:38 AM (1 replies)

K&R Guaranteed living income time.



http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/rethinking-the-idea-of-a-basic-income-for-all/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/14/opinion/wheeler-minimum-income/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/02/17/guaranteed_basic_income_the_real_alternative_to_the_minimum_wage.html
Posted by woo me with science | Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:07 PM (0 replies)

Important chart. Thank you.

Posted by woo me with science | Mon Mar 30, 2015, 06:58 PM (0 replies)

+1 Try finding pics of Occupy police violence now. Or doing a search on DU on torture policy or

the police state, in particular.

Q: Who defends torture and calls torturers, "patriots"?

A: Those complicit in torture and defending it. And there is great complicity across our corporate and MIC-owned government now.

Note how many of these discussions are now missing from DU. I had to go looking for many of the original sources online. This is why it's important to title articles with the actual titles of the sources...


Pres. Obama Never Rescinded Bush Memo On Torture- Still Part of Military Interrogation Doctrine
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025347198

Obama Justice Department indicts ex-CIA agent for exposing torture
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002528908

Obama has stated flat out the USA does not Torture, BUT does it ...
(original discussion missing)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8817920

Obama's Torture Problem (Cover-up of torture at Guantanamo and CIA black sites)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9640662
(original discussion missing)
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/nov/18/obamas-torture-problem/

Fellow Nobel Peace Laureates to Obama: Stain of US Torture Your Job to Repair
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025722026

Obama's Torture Bind (Torture, CIA "black sites")
(original discussion missing)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5454518

What Is Obama Doing At Bagram? (Part One): Torture Under the Obama Administration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x540433

Target of Obama-era rendition alleges torture
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6277906
(original discussion missing)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/target-of-obama-era-rendi_n_256499.html

The ACLU on Obama and Core Liberties
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2069714
(original discussion missing)
http://www.salon.com/2011/09/07/liberties_3/



Or this topic:



Obedience is conditioned into us early now by our corporate State.

Quite a few (seven, I think) of these links don't work anymore. For one of them, I was able to find an alternate link. I put them here anyway so you can see the titles of the missing OP's. With the exception of torture policies under Obama, I can't remember ever finding so many broken links on DU for a single topic.


This isn't about safety, it's about obedience
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9608293

Excessive Loyalty and Obedience to Malevolent Authority
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9588288
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5751677
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/593

The stench of fascism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7765352

Is obedience the only way to avoid police brutality?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025544025

Either you are a rebel or a slave---Choose---But choose fast .
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2030062

OBEY. - I'm a cop. If you don't want to get hurt, don't
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025411360

Submissiveness required by zero tolerance, no excuses (Corporate Education)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11249559 http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025714928

Seven years of silence, chanting, and obedience: Argosy Collegiate Charter School
http://edushyster.com/?p=1425

Why Are Americans So Easy to Manipulate and Control ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101644596

With little fanfare, the TSA has expanded to sporting events, music ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023416581

Noam Chomsky: How the Young Are Indoctrinated to Obey
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101623207

Submissiveness required by zero tolerance, no excuses.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11249559

Students Terrorized as Police Officers Draw Guns During Unannounced ‘Active Shooter Drill’ At Elementary School
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025826009

'I don't want to go to Disney World anymore': Parents' fury as TSA agents detain their crying, wheelchair-bound daughter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022408410

Police set up roadblocks to 'voluntarily' collect DNA, blood
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023016470

The President decides. TSA groping will continue ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9598152

Civil liberties disappear in the 2012 Democratic platform.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021267747

TSA detains woman for "attitude"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021317581

Pennsylvania street checkpoint asks drivers for mouth swabs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024195885

The National Security State: Cultivating a Culture of Fear and Obedience
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017222034





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Posted by woo me with science | Sun Mar 29, 2015, 05:57 PM (0 replies)

+100000 Which illustrates how cynical and empty and manipulative the Third Way exhortations

and claims to especially care about "civil rights" really are.

My favorite recent example is the swarm response I received when I had the audacity to suggest in a thread about Ferguson that the protests by Ferguson residents should yield some ACTUAL POLICY CHANGES.

You would have thought I committed a mortal sin for bringing up the fact that this corporate administration has been complicit in the militarization of police and other policies, such as privatization of prisons, that actively *grow* exploitative communities like Ferguson.

For merely suggesting that protesters demand an end to the federal militarization programs. I was met with one of the most over-the-top, sustained, hyperbolic, and vitriolic defensive swarms that I have ever seen from the corporate posting crew here. I was even accused of not caring about RACISM because of suggesting that the protesters might actually have policy demands that might involve the Obama administration. It would have been amusing if the political motive behind it weren't so transparent and ugly. And the cherry on top was that, AFTER all these accusations were leveled against me, the Ferguson protesters *themselves* came out the very next day, demanding exactly what I had suggested.

The MO of corporate Third Way propaganda is to give lip service to the disempowerment of minority groups while DEFENDING THE MALIGNANT POLICIES THAT SUSTAIN IT and attacking those who would implicate Third Way politicians in its perpetuation and escalation.

The corporate corruption of this nation will never end as long as we yield to the bullying to refrain from holding politicians accountable just because they wear a certain team color. Dividing us by team color is a tactic and a tool by corporatists and their propaganda machines to keep us powerless in the face of what is being done to us all.

Policies that concentrate wealth in the hands of a tiny elite, while dismantling democratic protections of the masses, have NEVER resulted in empowerment of or increases in civil rights for vulnerable groups. Never in history, and not now. See my extensive links elsewhere in this thread documenting the REAL consequences of neoliberal policies on women and minority groups.

That is why the lies of neoliberals are so dangerous.





Posted by woo me with science | Sun Mar 29, 2015, 04:20 PM (2 replies)

Corporatism makes a mockery of democracy and transfer of power.


Corporatism is the ruling elite's answer to the problem of democracy replacing monarchy.

Democratic government was supposed to solve the problem of monarchy: the hoarding of wealth by a ruling elite over generations.

The goal of corporatism is to grow/transfer/redirect and SUSTAIN the wealth of this nation in the hands of a tiny, privileged elite, notwithstanding the propagandized illusion of democracy and transfer of power. It is the equivalent of monarchy, just wearing a slick democracy costume.

The Clintons and the Bushes are not the ruling elite, but they have close ties to it and are/will be handsomely rewarded for their service to it. They are not the dynasty itself (Think Rockefellers, Rothschilds...), but the corrupt, purchased political product of it; if we don't get a Clinton or a Bush, we get an Obama or a Romney. As long as our government is purchased by this fraction of the One Percent, there will always be more corrupt corporate-political puppets being groomed and waiting in the wings.

For their service in entrenching, legalizing, sustaining, and growing this monied corruption at the expense of the 99 percent, they and their children will never have to worry about anything for the rest of their lives.



Posted by woo me with science | Sun Mar 29, 2015, 12:21 PM (4 replies)

This administration has aggressively EXPANDED police militarization and shows no signs

of reversing that course, all slick rhetoric about body cameras and pretty intentions aside.

Huge K&R. Thank you for this important OP.

You are right. What we need is for the militarization programs to be ended.

We need a public, national database on police violence toward citizens.

And we need relentless attention from the DOJ to cases of police violence until this garbage stops.


But we are already receiving relentless messaging that we have no right to expect or demand actual reversal of the militarization. Cameras on the militarized police is the ONLY bone that has even been mentioned, and we were expected to cheer in delight at that empty concession by our corporate masters.

The militarization of our police is federally driven, bipartisan, and as much a part of the growing police state as the mass surveillance, prison industrial complex, and assaults on journalism, other political protesters, and whistleblowers.

The occasional pretty, empty rhetoric being offered is not a first step to anything. This administration has vastly expanded the obscene militarization of our police forces. That obscene militarization continues, to the point that we now regularly see photos in our newspapers that look like something out of Afghanistan. There is ZERO sign on the horizon that actually REVERSING a vicious, malignant policy is even being considered.

The Obama administration's escalation of police militarization
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/aclu-police-militarization-swat_n_2813334.html


It's almost certain that if the police agencies cooperate, the ACLU will find that the militarization trend has accelerated since Kraska's studies more than a decade ago. All of the policies, incentives and funding mechanisms that were driving the trend then are still in effect now. And most of them have grown in size and scope.

The George W. Bush administration actually began scaling down the Byrne and COPS programs in the early 2000s, part of a general strategy of leaving law enforcement to states and localities. But the Obama administration has since resurrected both programs. The Byrne program got a $2 billion surge in funding as part of the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, by far the largest budget in the program's 25-year history. Obama also gave the COPS program $1.55 billion that same year, a 250 percent increase over its 2008 budget, and again the largest budget in the program's history. Vice President Joe Biden had championed both programs during his time in the Senate.

The Pentagon's 1033 program has also exploded under Obama. In the program's monthly newsletter (Motto: "From Warfighter to Crimefighter"), its director announced in October 2011 that his office had given away a record $500 million in military gear in fiscal year 2011, which he noted, "passes the previous mark by several hundred million dollars." He added, "I believe we can exceed that in FY 12.”

Then there are the Department of Homeland Security's anti-terrorism grants. The Center for Investigative Reporting found in a 2011 investigation that since 2001, DHS has given out more than $34 billion in grants to police departments across the country, many of which have been used to purchase military-grade guns, tanks, armor, and armored personnel carriers. The grants have gone to such unlikely terrorism targets as Fargo, N.D.; Canyon County, Idaho; and Tuscaloosa, Ala.


What we need is for the militarization programs to be ended.

We need a public, national database on police violence toward citizens.

And we need relentless attention from the DOJ to cases of police violence until this garbage stops.



But we are expected to cheer, because now there may be cameras on the officers in our militarized police state. We are to accept that the militarization itself is an acceptable "new normal."

This is textbook MO of our new corporate-ruled government. Implement unconscionable new authoritarian policy...then make some small concession that preserves the bulk of the new abuses, and seek adulation for that. You will know the corporate Third Way by their absolute refusal to entertain the possibility that the abuses should actually be reversed. You will know them by the incessant, malignant propaganda messaging that teaches us always to accept the "new normal," no matter how unconscionable it may be.

Militarized police, prison industrial complexes, impoverished communities, mass surveillance....They are all part of the new normal, the corporate police state being constructed around us.

We have to insist on reversal of the militarization itself. Our corporate government will never yield more than we demand.

We must not accept our militarized police forces as an acceptable "new normal" in the United States of America. Corporatists have no right to do this to us and to our country.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/what-weapons-are-police-using-in-ferguson/2014/08/14/4acf0920-23e0-11e4-8b10-7db129976abb_video.html







Posted by woo me with science | Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:19 AM (3 replies)

Good god.

1. I will grant you that Barack and Hillary BOTH love the TPP. They are two Third Way peas in a pod that way. However, it is flat out disingenuous to try to deny Hillary's major role in drafting this piece of predatory shit:

Hillary Clinton's leading role in drafting the TPP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101667554


2. That's almost as absurd as trying to suggest that she does not run to the right even of Obama on warmongering policy:

The Warmongering Record of Hillary Clinton "I urged him to bomb..."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026219783

Hillary Clinton criticizes Obama's foreign policy 'failure'; strongly defends Israel
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014867136

Hillary defends Israel on Gaza carpet bombing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025274041

Hillary tacks right of Obama on foreign policy.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024707589

Dissecting Hillary Clinton's Neocon Talking Points - Atlantic Interview
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017209519

NYTimes notices Hillary's natural affinity toward the neocons.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025205645

Hillary Clinton, the unrepentant hawk
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024876898

Hillary Clinton Praises George W. Bush and the Art of Compromise
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026394878

Hillary Clinton's role in right-wing Honduran coup and aftermath
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025601610#post29

Hillary Clinton's Horrifying Iraq War Vote Still Matters.
http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/hillary-clintons-iraq-war-vote-still-matters-9737

Secret recordings show US military and a Democratic congressman distrusted Hillary Clinton on Libya (lying, manipulating intelligence)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026157088

Hillary Clinton Blasts ‘Unfair’ World Reaction Over Gaza, Cites Anti-Semitism As Factor
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025364869

Obama didn't go as far as Hillary now says she wanted to go in smashing Syria
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251375376

Hand in Hand With Kissinger: A Review of Hillary Clinton’s Review
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016102317

Hillary Clinton Serves Us KISSINGER KOOL-AID
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025504036

MJ - Hillary Clinton Praises a Guy With Lots of Blood on His Hands
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025493748






















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