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I cook, paint, write, read, decorate, garden, and volunteer. I'm also a business owner, a mother and a wife. I love you.....no matter what you think of me.
Sanders is making grand promises of great programs in every speech he makes,
but his only answer when he is asked HOW will you get anything passed under a
gerrymandered congress, he replies that he will be leading a Revolution.
But thus far the fact is that voting by Democrats was down in both Iowa and NH,
than it was in 2008... The last year that a sitting President wasn't running
2016 total Republican votes 284,127 vs. Democratic votes 250,747 in New Hampshire
In the New Hampshire Primaries of 2008, the Democratic vote tally was 287,557
In 2008, Barack Obama won New Hampshire in the general election with a margin of 9.61 percentage points.
In 2012, Barack Obama won New Hampshire in the general election with a margin of 5.58 percentage points.
So if the Revolution ends up not being televised....
What is Sanders' Plan B to make good on his grand promises?
Please note that there are many Black Folks who understand exactly what the word "Bamboozled" means.....
(note) This is not a thread about Hillary Clinton.
and thank you!
Posted by FrenchieCat | Thu Feb 11, 2016, 04:33 PM (93 replies)
SOCIAL CHANGE doesn't happen swiftly as those who have participated in movements to change the status quo will testify. “Change is Gonna Come” isn’t a song that mentions quick fixes and easy times, but rather emphasizes that change is “a long, long time coming”. As minority groups have learned when looking back at their history, change takes enormous struggle, perseverance, and often time sacrifice just to take a few steps forward.
What most successful social movements of the 20th and 21st Century share; Whether the Civil Rights Movement, the Gay Rights Movement, the Feminist Movement, the Labor Movement, or the Environmental Movement, the simple truth is, none of these movements are finished yet. Most took decades of painstaking organized work, sweat, tears and even death before being able to claim a respectful piece of victory.
Newly freed slaves were once promised 40 Acres and a Mule, but most received nothing more than words, and little else. We can also recall during the Great Depression, Americans were promised a chicken in every pot. Unfortunately, these promises, if we care to remember, rarely worked out as they had been packaged, sold and bought. Even one of the most progressive Presidents, FDR, still compromised Black people right out of the Social Security Act that he championed. Domestics (read Black women) and Agricultural workers (read Black men/sharecroppers) were originally excluded from the bill as it passed into law. In so doing, they were also excluded from various attached programs, e.g., Aid to Dependent Children which passed under the act in 1935 as part of the “New Deal” (for whom? Some may have asked). There are those who defend FDR by pointing out that Black people were not specifically omitted, neglecting to acknowledge that Domestics and Farming were the primary work available to that minority group.
Now in 2016, we hear of wonderful promises made this election year. Who wouldn’t want Free Health Care, Free College, Free Childcare, and a living wage for every person working? Many of us would also love to get big money out of our politics as we are aware of how it diminishes our vote. The big banks certainly took us for a ride, and it would be great compensation to watch them sliced and diced into tiny pieces. The issues are excellent; a liberal’s dream! So then, what's the catch? Is this really truly possible, we ask? Because as a people, we learned long ago that there is no such thing as a Free Lunch, even once you are permitted to sit at the lunch counter.
When Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Democratic Socialist, running as President is queried on how all of these promises will be fulfilled, his answer is eerily consistent; there will be a radical Revolution that he will be leading. This term “Political Revolution”, for some of us who have lived that long, harken back to the days of the 1960’s “War on Poverty”. It is a war that we fight today, and in so doing, we are also forced to fight race based stereotypes it put upon us, which have stubbornly lasted to our detriment since. It is the tried and untrue slur of how people of color always seem to want something without working for it, aka, something for nothing. The War on Poverty, while perhaps well-meaning in its intent, left an ugly-spirited stain upon us, that we have been trying to wash out ever since. The whole racist connotation of the “Welfare Queen” has, in fact, won many elections, year after year. It is a legacy that may have hurt us more as an entire race of people, than the benevolent benefits it ever intended.
As earnestly as Bernie Sanders may believe in his promises of these great programs to voters, upon closer inspection, there is a solid barrier in achieving the legislation needed for his goals, if he were to be elected. It is an odd but old term called gerrymander. Every decade there is a census taken, and at this time district maps for each state are redrawn. The last Census election was in 2010, which happened to have been the year that Democratic politicians all over the nation suffered steep losses countrywide. Pres. Obama used a not so delicate term in describing the loss; a “Shellacking”. Each map is demographically drawn by those in power, and affects exactly how electoral districts within each state are decided. As expected, the Republican majorities in many State Houses managed an artful job of making sure to give Republicans a ridiculous advantage in maintaining their majority. It is an advantage tight as a whistle.
If one is frank and anchored in reality, while reading the fine print of the changes Bernie Sanders offers, it should be known that they do not have any realistic chance of passage until the year 2020, after the next census election (which is a presidential year election, so there is hope there). When asked about the unlikely passage of any of Sen. Sanders’ promises, he does then admit that most likely nothing will likely get through any Congress in his first term. The 75 year old politician does allude to a possible 2nd term and that is when the Revolution, we have to figure, will be in full blast?
It’s hard to believe that those supporting Sanders aren’t aware of this BFD detail, although it may be that some just don’t care. You see, these third party Independents, and Green Party types Liberals (btw, thank you Nader) are ardent supporters who believe deeply in what Bernie Sanders says, regardless of the immediate future outcome.
But what about voters who don’t follow politics closely? Those who simply don’t know the consequences of a gerrymandered Congress and what that truly means; or how it will impact the true realities of this “New Deal”? The working stiff trying hard to make ends meet, but unknown to him/her that their vote won’t change their status anytime soon. They should know the devil in the details, but indeed most are largely unaware of the caveats attached to Bernie Sanders’ plans. Especially since the Media isn’t talking about it? (ask yourself… why?) Guess the corporate media is too busy with Trump’s hair, and Hillary’s emails.
The real question is when hearing all the promises, will the "Revolution of 2016" actually move a Republican Congressional majority to demand that their government administers their constituents’ health care, while doing away with Insurance Companies and Big Banks? Will a Republicans House vote to give young people free college? Because that is who will decide, not Bernie nor his voters. If Healthcare reform was easy to pass, it would have been done long before Obama! Hillary tried it, and they have hated her ever since. Even President Barack Obama couldn’t even get his own party to vote on his original vision, let alone any Republicans! The healthcare fight, as it currently is started in 2009, and generously gifted us with the Tea Party, and is a fight not yet finished, It virtually separated Americans into various groups. Those who are glad to finally get it; those now want something totally different, and those who have attempted to repeal Obamacare 7,000 times, and took it twice to the Supreme Court! Well guess who has the power in congress since 2010, and will most likely have it after the election of 2016?
If, in support of the Revolution, folks are willing to March day after day, while the reportage on Television omits you from our lives, as they did the many marches against the War in Iraq, or the invisible Million Man March just this summer. Are you willing to take a chance to elect a man with flaws not yet uncovered (and there are many, I’ll tell you) nor exposed by either the GOP or the media, only to have to wait until maybe 2020, when he will be nearly 80 years old, or maybe never? Are you willing to hand over your healthcare that we are still fighting for? Are you willing to see the Supreme Court hang in balance? If you are, and you know what you are getting into, then by all means go for it!
In conclusion, ask yourself if there is a lesson learned from past movements and past promises? Back in the days when irresistible offers of 40 acres and a Mule and a New deal was proposed to us? I know what I learned; that progress doesn’t happen overnight, and that anything promised or said is never a given, and that nothing is ever free.
PS: This was written for some different forums, but though I'd post it here as well.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:58 AM (23 replies)
Much of the energy on both the left and the right this cycle is coming from white Americans who are rejecting the direction of America and its institutions. There is a profound disappointment. On one hand, it’s about fear of dislocation of supremacy, and the surrendering of power and the security it provides. On the other hand, it’s about disillusionment that the game is rigged and the turf is tilted. It is about defining who created this country’s bounty and who has most benefited from it.
White America is wrestling with itself, torn between two increasingly distant visions and philosophies, trying to figure out if the country should retreat from its present course or be remade.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Tue Feb 9, 2016, 05:23 AM (1 replies)
and I understand his goals,
and I respect him,
and I agree with many of them.....
I understand the message,
I understand the passion,
I understand the relief of hearing what he is saying on a national stage,
I understand the satisfaction of supporting a candidate on the rise after being discounted,
I understand the anger,
I understand the dissatisfaction,
I understand the frustration,
I understand the joy of seeing one's candidate getting good press,
I understand the "Revolution",
I just don't personally think that who Sanders is,
nor his election platform.
will win the Democrats the general election.
Revolution or no.
I think that out of everyone running, to the Left or to the Right,
Hillary Clinton is the person best suited to govern in these times,
for many reasons that I don't need to get into here.....
as you will hear from me about that some more
but that's what I strongly believe,
based on my handicapping the GE,
researching the two candidates,
and understanding that the Corporate Media nor the GOP want to vet Bernie as of yet,
which leaves me feeling suspicious of their motives.
Of course I may be proven incorrect in terms of how the majority of Democrats see it,
guess that's what these primaries are all about!
Whatever happens, in the end,
once all is said and done,
I will support our ticket.
No...this is not a pledge post, as I realize a lot here may not support Clinton/Sanders if she/he wins....
and they should do what they believe....
As I do,
and so this is simply my honest to goodness opinion....no catch!
I'm hoping for more votes on the Democratic side than the Republican side tomorrow.
This will tell us a tiny bit of something of what we will be facing in the GE in November....
whether they are as ready to defeat us as we are ready to defeat them....
in New Hampshire anyways.
For tomorrow's vote,
Good luck to Bernie and His supporters,
But better luck to Hillary, her supporters and me.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:08 PM (42 replies)
We, the Newtown Action Alliance (NAA), endorse Hillary Clinton for President of the United States of America.
The senseless shooting that killed 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, shattered millions of hearts across the nation. This day of terror mobilized a group of grieving citizens from Newtown to work to transform the community tragedy into meaningful action to end gun violence in our nation. For the last three years, the Newtown Action Alliance has been working with families of victims, survivors and dedicated advocates to honor all lives lost to gun violence by pushing for legislative and cultural change.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:55 AM (16 replies)
This list is long and not all encompassing. Please feel free to add to it, so that I can have a more complete list.
Apart from getting rid of "No Child Left Behind", Liberating our Gay Brother and Sisters from a life of discrimination and on a Federal level, as well as the work done by Michelle in relation to school lunch nutrition and her "The Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act.", as well as her Let's Move campaign.....
and let us not forget, just rescuing the economy in general, and did it without any Republican help!
But most important of all, he has represented the African-American community superbly in how he has carried out his duties in the office, coming off as one of the most blemish free administration in recent history! And don't get me started with the role models that Michelle and the girls have been! Personally, I couldn't asked for better!
This is my partial list:
1) Passed Health Care Reform (Affordable Care Act)
More than 19 percent of African Americans did not have health care. When the highly debated health care reform bill was signed into law in March of 2010, millions of African Americans benefited. The ACA is Reducing Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities: The Affordable Care Act moves toward eliminating disparities that African Americans currently face both in their health and in their health care by investing in data collection and research about health disparities. The law also promotes increased racial and ethnic diversity of health care professionals and strengthens cultural competency training among health care providers. Building upon these provisions in the Affordable Care Act, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) launched two strategic plans aimed at reducing health disparities
2) Expanded Funding For HBCUs
President Obama signed an executive order increasing funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) to $850 million over the next 10 years. The funding is being administered through the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities that was, ironically, started by the late Ronald Reagan.
3) Awarded $1.2 Billion To Black Farmers
President Obama’s administration oversaw the $1.2 billion settlement awarded to Black farmers who have been denied loans and assistance by the Agricultural Dept. for decades.
4) Signed The Crack Cocaine Bill (Fair Sentencing Act)
Crack users are disproportionately sentenced to longer jail terms than those who use powder. This unfair sentencing practice punished African Americans more severely than their white counterparts. With the signing of the Fair Sentencing Act, though, President Obama narrowed that disparity significantly.
5) Created The Civil Rights Division Of The Justice Department
The U.S. Justice Department is leading one of the most aggressive defenses of civil rights in recent memory. Whether it is clamping down on Arizona for its bias against Latinos or fighting unjust state voter ID laws, this Justice Department has been fully engaged in fighting for the rights of all minorities. When President Obama chose Eric Holder to lead the department, he picked a true champion of civil rights. For a rundown of how powerful the Civil Rights Division has become.
6) Set up "My Brother's Keeper", an organization that seeks to promote and help implement a coherent cradle-to-college-and-career strategy for improving the life outcomes of all young people to ensure that they can reach their full potential, regardless of who they are, where they come from, or the circumstances into which they are born.
7) Introduced the Modification loan program, that helped millions of African-Americans save their home during the Housing Crash.
8) Reduced unemployment by creating millions of jobs all over America. In addition, wages have increased in many sectors of all job areas.
9) Saved the Auto Industry in Detroit, Michigan, thereby again saving thousand if not millions of jobs in the industry and all of those directly connected to it. An industry know to employ large numbers of African Americans.
10) Appointed a large number of African-American to Judicial posts throughout the United States. Named two Black Attorney Generals of the United States, back to back.
11) Via Executive Order, established a White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans.
Providing a complete and competitive education for all Americans – from cradle to career – a top priority. The White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans works across Federal agencies and with partners and communities nationwide to produce a more effective continuum of education programs for African American students. The Initiative aims to ensure that all African American students receive an education that fully prepares them for high school graduation, college completion, and productive careers.
12) Help lower Gas prices, which has a direct impact on all Americans, including African-Americans
13) Provided Tax Relief for African American Families: In December 2010, the President signed a bipartisan tax cut agreement that not only secured vital tax relief and investments for our workers, but is also creating jobs and accelerating economic growth. Building off the Recovery Act, the tax agreement extended key expansions of the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and the Child Tax Credit (CTC) that are benefitting an estimated 2.2 million African American families.
14) Expanded Access to Federal Contracting for Minority-Owned Businesses: More than 20 Cabinet and Senate-confirmed Obama Administration officials have participated in 19 small business matchmaking events around the country, which has helped more than 10,000 small, minority- and women-owned businesses by promoting access to capital and access to Federal government contracting opportunities. These efforts are part of the President’s broader agenda to support small businesses, including his signing of 17 small business tax cuts into law and taking action to expand access to credit.
15) Established the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) and in so doing, protected Families from Financial Abuses, Hidden Fees, and Deceptive Practices: Too many responsible African Americans have paid the price for an outdated regulatory system that has left families without adequate protections against financial abuses and deceptive practices. That’s why President Obama fought to overcome a furious lobbying campaign by big banks to pass the most far reaching Wall Street reform in history which created the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), to prevent mortgage companies, credit card lenders, and payday loan companies from exploiting consumers with hidden fees and other deceptive practices.
16) Improved the Quality of Education and Expanding Access to College: President Obama has improved the quality of education – particularly in our lowest-performing schools – and has expanded access to college because every child deserves an education that equips them with the skills to find a good-paying job and succeed in the workforce.
17) Fixing Our Lowest-Performing Schools: The Obama Administration has dedicated to challenge states and districts to transform the lowest-performing schools in America. School Improvement Grants have provided millions per school for 1,000 schools to change them into safe environments where students can learn.
18) Helped Students Pay For College: By re-directing subsidies from private lenders to students, the Administration has already raised the maximum Pell Grant awards and increased the number of Pell Grant recipients . Also, for families struggling with the cost of college, we have created the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC)—a partially refundable tax credit worth up to $10,000 over four years of college.
19) Strengthening Minority-Serving Institutions (MSIs) and Community Colleges: The student loan reform bill signed by President Obama provided $2 billion for community colleges and other eligible institutions of higher education to improve education and career training programs.
20) Transformed Distressed areas through Choice Neighborhoods: The Choice Neighborhoods program provided $126 million to 22 communities to plan and implement the transformation of high-poverty areas where distressed HUD-assisted housing is . The Recovery Act provided $7 billion in funding to communities to manage the vacant and foreclosed residential properties that are creating blight and bringing down local home values.
21) Ensuring Access to Healthy Food: The Administration is committed to ensuring families have access to healthy food through the Healthy Food Financing Initiative. Several food retailers have agreed to build or expand over 1,500 grocery stores in underserved communities.
22) Combatted Racial Discrimination: The Department of Justice (DOJ) is vigorously enforcing the law to combat racial discrimination in schools, housing, and the workplace. President Obama provided two years of double-digit budget increases to the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division, which was previously hamstrung by drastic budget cuts. DOJ has also reached three multi-million dollar settlements, including the largest rental discrimination and fair lending settlements in its history.
23) Proposed to provide two years of free community-college tuition to students who maintain good grades.
24) Deal with Iran counts, since nukes do not discriminate about where they land
25) Climate change pledge in Paris, because again, if the general population is positively affected, then the Black Population is affected 10X fold, as we know.
26) Restrictions on distribution of military-style equipment to police, banning local police departments from receiving a range of military-style equipment from the federal government -- from grenade launchers to bayonets to certain armored vehicles -- as he implements the recommendations of a panel that examined the controversial gear giveaways in the wake of the Ferguson riots.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:12 PM (35 replies)
Bernie Sanders announced clearly in his Campaign announcement that he would run a Clean campaign. He said,
“As someone who has never run a negative political ad in his life, my campaign will be driven by issues and serious debate; not political gossip, not reckless personal attacks or character assassination.”
But since, Bernie Sanders’ campaign has indeed been one that invites and includes political gossip, reckless personal attacks and character assassination at every turn. In fact and unfortunately, it has been shocking to many as to the depth of negativity and the frequency of unfounded name calling Bernie’s supporters have pushed. Even non-partisan bistanders are calling it one of the most negative campaigns in Democratic primary history.
Day in, and day out, the comments made on internet, at the end of every blog and positive articles are both vile and extreme. Clinton endorsers are met with personal verbal abuse normally only found on Republican hate sites The tweets of Ms. Clinton’s lack of honesty, the insinuations that she is in the pocket of big banks, are a daily refrain. Comments on her appearance, her demeanor, and even the sound of her voice liter the discussions of her debate performances and town halls. The politics of guilt by association run rampant and unchecked. The intentional personal smears that she is untrustworthy and unlikable, are pointed to as evidence that she could never win a general election. The request of her speech transcripts (the video is out there, and has been for some time) reminds one of the email attacks pursued by corporate media and Republicans.
In so doing, the Bernie campaign, its surrogates and supporters have rightfully earned a reputation of savaging Hillary Clinton in every way deemed possible, rivaling only that of the Republicans 25 years of smears in its intensity. For proof, one only needs to peruse social media to verify the Sander’s campaign of personal destruction; both on a personal and a policy level against Sanders’ rival.
During the nationally televised speech Sanders gave on the eve of the Iowa Caucus, the hate fermented by those in the Sanders’ camp was in full display. The supporters’ chants of “Liar” referring to Hillary Clinton, as Sen. Sanders spoke, and were clearly auditable, and were not hushed in anyway.
Further, the politics of guilt by association are lobbed at those who have the temerity of supporting Hillary Clinton. A picture of Howard Dean sitting next to a Goldman Sachs employee provokes derision of Howard Dean as a stooge, a two-faced corporatist, and a lackey. Hillary Clinton is held to a level of scrutiny normally only seen in a general election. The request for her speech transcripts reminds one of the email attacks pursued by the media and Republicans.
So how does a man running on honesty and integrity, and who promised a positive campaign allow his campaign to become as toxic as his as become, against someone he publicly claims to respect and admire? Because Bernie Sanders is, regardless of what he claims, first and foremost a politician. Anyone fooled that this isn’t a campaign that will say and do whatever is required to get it done, hasn’t been hanging out on the Internet.
Far from Sen. Sanders’ first promise that he would run a positive campaign, his campaign has been artfully doing anything but. Make no mistake, Bernie Sanders is well aware of what his supporters are doing, even as they will claim that he has no control over what they are saying and doing. This may very well be the case, but as the leader of his Revolution, he is responsible for not calling out his supporters and reminding them that he has promised to run a campaign devoid of politics as usual. Having others do one’s dirty work, does not absolve the man or his campaign of accountability, nor should it allow Sen. Bernie Sanders to claim that he is fulfilling one of his first campaign promise, because clearly, that promise has been broken.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Sat Feb 6, 2016, 02:15 PM (87 replies)
My understanding is that the Bernie political revolution starts by getting people who might normally NOT vote
go to the polls.
This would be the disaffected, the disenchanted, the 3rd party folks, and the first time voting youth.
The point made is that there are millions who don't vote every election, and these are the votes which will make the
difference in the election outcome, and only Bernie can get those votes.
I'll give you that in a national election, this could possibly happen....
It would mean that as many or more who came out to vote for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012
would come out and vote for Bernie in 2016 from all of the key states needed.
FYI: We know that Republican Voting is up thus far....
but that is only after one primary, so these numbers are not written in stone.
Some Voting information by party affiliation in Iowa: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1146153
So say the Revolution happens, and now we have a President Bernie.
One of the criticism against Sen. Bernie Sanders is that he is promising a lot of big massive changes, but he won't be able to keep these promises, and that he is aware of that; and in so doing is being misleading and disingenuous, while being called honest by his supporters. On the other hand, his opponent is being called dishonest and calculating, and is only asking for incremental change. Sanders Supporter call her the the "no I can't" candidate.
Those skeptical of HOW Pres. Sanders could actual pass into law, legislation needed to have his promises fulfilled want to know how it will be done. They are called incrimentalist, conservatives, status quo foks, etc, et, etc.
Still the question remains: HOW will Single Payer health care, the raising of taxes that would be needed, the breaking up of banks, the getting big money out of politics, and the making of all public colleges free be passed into law?
And then same Sanders critics bring up
What is it?
Its like this map of each district in the US, redrawn in weird ass ways to guarantee that there are enough district drawn to insure a Republican majority in the house. Many laughed at some of the mapping as it was like a tiny square at the top narrowly winding its way to the left only to zigzag back into a little circle.
The mapping drawn by Republicans make sure that various neighborhood that are overwhelming Republican
have nearly no democratic voters in them, or at the very least, not enough,
i.e., the additional democratic votes to turn that district from red to blue do not exist in said district.
Of course, now we all know better than ever before why election 2010 was so important.
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency:
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"
“The Gerry-mander,” political cartoon in U.S. politics, drawing the boundaries of electoral districts in a way that gives one party an unfair advantage over its rivals. The term is derived from the name of Governor Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, whose administration enacted a law in 1812 defining new state senatorial districts. The law consolidated the Federalist Party vote in a few districts and thus gave disproportionate representation to Democratic-Republicans. The outline of one of these districts was thought to resemble a salamander. A satirical cartoon by Elkanah Tisdale appeared in the Boston Gazette; it graphically transformed the districts into a fabulous animal, “The Gerry-mander,” fixing the term in the popular imagination.
its use achieving desired electoral results for a particular party, gerrymandering may be used to help or hinder a particular demographic, such as a political, ethnic, racial, linguistic, religious, or class group, such as in U.S. federal voting district boundaries that produce a majority of constituents representative of African-American or other racial minorities, known as "majority-minority districts."
The 2012 election provides a number of examples as to how partisan gerrymandering can adversely affect the descriptive function of states' congressional delegations. In Pennsylvania, for example, Democratic candidates for the House of Representatives received 83,000 more votes than Republican candidates, yet the Republican-controlled redistricting process in 2010 resulted in Democrats losing to their Republican counterparts in 13 out of Pennsylvania’s 18 districts.
In the seven states where Republicans had complete control over the redistricting process, Republican House candidates received 16.7 million votes and Democratic House candidates received 16.4 million votes. The redistricting resulted in Republican victories in 73 out of the 107 affected seats; in those 7 states, Republicans received 50.4% of the votes but won in over 68% of the congressional districts. While it is but one example of how gerrymandering can have a significant impact on election outcomes, this kind of disproportional representation of the public will seems to be problematic for the legitimacy of democratic systems, regardless of one's political affiliation.
RESULTS AND IMPLICATIONS:
We get a Pres. Bernie, but we don't get Pres. Bernie's promises,
because the gerrymandered Congress won't pass the many laws required
to enact any of what he's proposing.
Means that Pres. Bernie most likely can't get much of the promises accomplished
in his first term. Instead he would be forced to either compromise to get anything done
or hangs tough to his principles and therefore causes a stalemate. Congress passes bills, and he
The Republicans decide the day of his election, that Bernie Sanders will get NADA, ZERO, ZILCH, Nothing from them,
because they know that Bernie cannot really compromise too much with Republicans,
in fear that he will be letting go of his principles and possibly getting worse treatment than other Presidents (Clinton & Obama who didn't overpromise) have, especially from his own Liberal Wing of the Democratic party and 3rd party voters.
You see, these are the folks that say it can't wait, and that progress doesn't have to take long.
So President Bernie will have to opt more often on not budging than giving Republicans even an inch.
so instead, nothing at all gets done.....
Basic result = Status Quo
The disaffected, the disenchanted, and the first time voting youth have long become impatient, not only because
now its been 4 years into a Sanders term, and none of what they were promised has happened.
They resent that no one laid out what was really going to happen, because they didn't want to doom Sanders chance
of winning the election, except for those awful Hillirians (that's the term, no?)
And sadder still, they start to realize that they were lied to ,
cause no one in 2016, including Bernie Sanders actually told them that they weren't gonna get what they wanted,
even if they marched, and twitted, and voted in polls for 4 years.
Then here comes the 2020 elections, which is the next Census election.
It is also a presidential election year (good for us),
but unfortunately, the disappointed folks aren't buying the promises anymore,
cause thus far President has done very little other than to talk on what we need done.
They decide not to vote, since their last vote didn't get them all of the goodies the Revolution
We lose said 2020 Census election, and Mr. Gerrymandered doesn't get to move on....
And the next book that will be written will be titled,
How President Bernie Sanders let progressives down.
Posted by FrenchieCat | Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:41 PM (134 replies)
Look, I like both candidates, but believe that Hillary Clinton is the most qualified, bar none, and due to her Foreign policy chops, is also the best well rounded, even when comparing her to anyone on the Republican field. Her qualifications allows to knock down any unforeseen and unplanned foreign policy disaster that may occur anytime between now and November. We do not control these occurrences, so we certainly shouldn't naively act like nothing will happen, because one can only win if one is totally prepared in case it does.
I am quite concerned with those on Bernie's side who constantly sell the notion that Republicans will come out just to vote against Hillary....as many don't apparently want to understand that what would invigorate a large Republican turnout EVEN MORE than Hillary Clinton running, is a Radical Socialist calling for revolution and running on the premise of redistributing the wealth by taxing for spending and growing government bigger than ever before seen (which is exactly how they will frame Bernie Sanders, most likely even worse....unfortunately) and it would be true.
Also, I find that Bernie's approach of continuously holding up all other European countries as the shining beacon as to what the US should be, is flawed, as it incites the opposition (as much as they seem to be down in America) to become that much more nationalistic. That is not the best approach to get more Americans to vote for you.
The person who will win the presidency, is the person who isn't downing this country so much, and instead provides an optimistic message that, under Obama we have done much better considering where we were, and that we should build on that, as we can make this country even better. A positive frame, much more worthy than day in, day out, highlighting only how terrible this country has become...which is already the GOP's message. As well, Sanders proposing to re-fight healthcare, an issue that has so divided this country is chancy at best, and a dangerous calculation at worse. It only generates that much more zeal for Republicans to come out in droves....because now they are fighting a real government type healthcare like what they attempted to say Obamacare is, when it ain't.
The bottomline is that this a much more important election than some want to admit, which is why so I don't understand the so many who are saying if it ain't Sanders, I'm not voting. They are more invested in teaching everyone a lesson, than caring about how their action will only directly hurt the exact people that Bernie Sanders is supposed to be so passionate about helping. In addition, it is a divisive statement that almost sounds like blackmail. Of course voting or not voting is everyone's right, but to use it as a bludgeon is totally unhelpful to Sanders' cause d'etre!
AND from both candidates, we need to hear much more on the "HOWs" they plan on making the changes they promise. Anytime Bernie highlights a problem, and promises what he'll give us, I always scream at my TV screen....BUT HOW will you do this? Yes, I know; Sanders' offerings sound awfully good, but it simply isn't enough to propose what's wrong and what would be better, if one cannot specifically provide a reasonable plan of HOW all of this legislation would occur to make these awesome changes, besides an unreliable Radical Revolution.
As for this Revolution...it could certainly continue regardless of who the nominee is, and in fact encouraged, as it shouldn't be solely about Bernie having to be President in order to change things.
AND, we should be taking note that, in Iowa anyways, voting was down by 30% for Democrats and up 50% for the Republicans, and that was with the Radical Revolutionary guy on the ticket....so there's that.
I'm thinking that young people, the most unreliable voting bloc there is, have only experienced how easy it is to win, but that's because they primarily remember Obama; but neither Sanders nor Clinton are Obama.
If you want to know my opinion about who will be the GOP Candidate, something I wrote some time back, and have been saying for months, here it is: http://www.democraticunderground.com/110738863
Posted by FrenchieCat | Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:32 PM (18 replies)
Those same current Bernie Supporters who discuss Hillary's "judgement" due to her Iraq vote,
BUT who just looooved them some John Edwards, who made the exact same vote she did while in the Senate, but only with more gusto as his speech wasn't even close to lukewarm on the idea of going into Iraq.
Hillary said at the time that it was a hard vote, and certainly didn't sound anything like the Republicans in her speech deciding to vote for it. In fact, she said it was the hardest vote that she had ever had to make, meaning she wasn't zealous about voting the way that she did.
In comparison....John Edwards spoke of being sure that Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destructions, and that America was in danger. In fact, his speech sounded like a speech George W. Bush would have given! Just Listen. That speech was on YouTube in 2008.....and yet....
So Why did Lefties-Liberals support John Edwards who was running, at the same time that Barack Obama was also running, Obama being the guy who had spoken out against the Iraq War in 2003? Because they had decided that Obama was a Corporatists....was the most frequent answer.
Edwards came in 2nd in the Iowa caucus.
John Edwards gave a super duper speech on the Two Americas, that's why!
Don't get me wrong, it was a great speech....and said all of the things that the Left wanted to hear! Didn't matter that John Edwards had worked for a Hedgefund Group - http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20070509/NEWS/705090381
Didn't matter that John Edwards "Foundation" to help the poor was nothing but a sham
CAUSE apparently "saying stuff about class division" works everytime when it comes to gaining Left Left Liberal Support to become the President. One doesn't have to really "accomplish" anything in that realm....but if its said, that means everything! His words sound eerily familiar in this video....
Here's a DU conversation about how John Edwards beats the (then thought to be who would win the GOP nom) Republican, back in November of 2007. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2287124
SOOOO, Why should I bring up old history of John Edwards.... who isn't even running (thank goodness)?
As we all know, Bernie is not Edwards. Bernie isn't just making promises as to what he will do as President, although I believe that he does know full well that he probably won't be able to get anything close to pass through congress!
Because I just wanted to demonstrate how easily some folks fall for the unelectable cause they are saying cool stuff, as politicians know that its easier to get voters to vote from their Hearts, than to vote with their Heads.
JOHN EDWARDS, THE LAST UP TILL NOW, GREATLY REVERED POPULIST ON DU!
Posted by FrenchieCat | Wed Feb 3, 2016, 06:18 PM (22 replies)