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Or, to re-phrase slightly, ...

> Young voters tend to support ideals, and not parties or people.
> A focus on party politics tends to come with age and experience.
> If there are no politicians running who are promoting their ideals, they're not going to vote.

A focus on party politics tends to come as a defence mechanism in response
to repeated failures of trust.

When the ideals that you had are betrayed, time after time, by people who
claimed that they supported the same thing, you can defend your pointless
support of "the less bad option" by falling back to blind party politics.

That's the kind where you can defend "your guy" doing the same thing as you
were shouting down "the other guy" for doing just a few years earlier.

The kind where you don't have to admit that your faith in "your guy" has been
betrayed by their actions after the election because you can always pull out
some excuse or other for "why it didn't work out quite right".

The kind where you can ignore the insanity of doing the same thing as before
yet hoping for a different outcome this time.

The kind where you can gloss over the real differences, the real problems,
the real issues in society and the world at large by concentrating myopically
on an artificial distinction between two sub-groups of the majority in order
to preserve the profits & well-being of the rich, powerful, self-selecting minority.

The most active supporters of any extremist political party tends to be
the young & inexperienced as they have not gained the wisdom to see through
the lies, the inconsistencies and the hypocrisy of the leadership.

"Age and experience" can provide that wisdom but it can also provide the
incentive to ignore the wisdom so gained and fall back to the same mindless
partisan cheerleading that can so mislead the young & inexperienced.

Now *that* is something that the world should be worried about ...

> hydrocarbon development project on the Arctic shelf.

This is something that affects the entire world rather than a petty squabble over
the latest re-drawing of lines on a map.

The absence of unified resistance & opposition to such stupidity as drilling oil & gas
in the Arctic is the biggest sign yet of just how corrupt & bought-out all of the
governments really are.

Corporations own all presidents, prime ministers and administrations.

"We the people" are shit outta luck - as are all of the non-human life that is
being wasted for the sake of petty greed.

"Censored" is appropriate when the science is being suppressed ...

... purely to benefit the powerful bodies involved in the suppression.


Especially true when it is done explicitly to reduce the pressure to agree to
*anything* at the next international climate farce, sorry, "negotiations".


>> In other parts of the summary, objections from rich nations resulted in the
>> removal of a line saying: “In 2010, ten countries accounted for about 70 per
>> cent of CO2 emissions from fossil fuel combustion and industrial processes.”

>> They also demanded, and won, removal of a line reporting that ethical mitigation
>> of climate change would require the developed world to transfer “hundreds of
>> billions of dollars per year” to non-OECD countries to invest in green technologies.

>> Objections from "upper middle income" countries resulted in the deletion of
>> a graph that showed the stunning rise in emissions from those countries in
>> the decade to 2010, compared with other parts of the world.


Physics, chemistry and the biological response to changes really aren't interested
in "consensus" and the longer that the chief polluters deny the problem, the worse
will be the result.

Out-manoeuvred by the greed.

Politicians make laws.
Greed buys politicians (from council members to presidents).

"Police" agencies enforce laws.
Greed buys police agencies (from sheriffs to heads of national departments).

Environmentalists try to do the right thing.
Greed is immune from legal action and protected from illegal action.

Citizens with consciences are stunned into silence & ineffectiveness.
Greed laughs at citizens with consciences.

Agreed but I think you'll find that the ones who object to such a sensible suggestion ...

... are the poxy politicians (and their entourage of various categories of hangers-on) who
a) want the photo-ops; b) want the break away from their other duties; and c) want to get
all of the backroom, off the record, bribe-trading action kept away from any public sight.

If they were all debating on videoconference then it would be (even more) blatantly obvious
which politicians and which nations were deliberately blocking & de-railing any progress.

We(*) had a glimpse of the improvement possible back in 2010 ...

I loved it when Eyjafjallajökull erupted and we had no major aircraft flying over us for about a week!

The majority of air travel miles are unnecessary - personal indulgences, business meetings
that can (and should) be conducted by phone or video, shipping of luxury exotic foodstuffs from
distant lands to be wasted on supermarket shelves - and so the loss of them (temporarily or, as will
eventually be the case, permanently) is simply at the "inconvenience" level rather than anything
vaguely life-threatening.

On the other hand, continuing the incredible volume of unnecessary flights is life-threatening on a
global scale so when it comes to stopping it, I say "Do it and now please".

Bring it on!





(*) "We" = "UK & other NW Europeans" along with anyone else who was intending to visit/return from
those places in early April 2010. By way of comparison, the clear skies following 09-SEP-11 would
have given those on the NE USA a taste of it as well.

But, but, but ... I've been assured (stridently) that he is an environmentalist ...

> One might even take a speech of President Obama's two years ago in the oil town
> of Cushing, Okla., to be an eloquent death-knell for the species.
> He proclaimed with pride, to ample applause, that "Now, under my administration,
> America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years.
> That's important to know.
> Over the last three years, I've directed my administration to open up millions of acres
> for gas and oil exploration across 23 different states.
> We're opening up more than 75 percent of our potential oil resources offshore.
> We've quadrupled the number of operating rigs to a record high.
> We've added enough new oil and gas pipeline to encircle the Earth and then some."

"Hope & Change"?

For all that the cheerleaders claim, there really isn't a shit of difference when you strip off the
paint job is there?


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