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The Dangers of fundamentalist christian housing for people with mental illness

There is a place that houses the mentally ill out here called Hope House.The people running it are insane fundamentalist christians and control freaks.I just found this out,today. I was told when clients move in there the crazy religious assholes take them off their DOCTOR prescribed medications.And some meds need to be tapered off like seizure medications for safety reasons.They don't taper them off there,safely they just confiscate their medications and cut them off cold.

That means schizophrenics get no medication,people with depression can fall back into depression,etc..The person I was talking to had been in the hospital twice since she moved in there,the hospital stabilized her and she went back to 'hope house' and had a crisis again.

She said the people running the place took away her medication, they said to her, that it was ok to see people that are not there and that god can cure her of schizophrenia. Other people in the group I was talking with her and others ,there were others who lived there or are living there backed her up. The "hope house" christian fanatics had pulled this crap with them also..The more I heard I got more pissed.I felt like going to"hope house" and kicking some religious bully ass.

Religious people,especially ones that FORCE clients to go to church whether they believe or not and risk their sanity because of what the asshole running the place believes in..should be shut down,and the owners put in jail.I hate pushy,fundamentalist christians.They need to go away,stop & shut up.. the people running"hope house" are too fucking religious to take care of anyone.

So many times I have wanted to punch pushy religious freaks in the face.I hate them.You cannot reason with them,or even talk to them like other people.I think these true believer types are a toxic religious disaster.

They should not be allowed to legally to run any housing for the mentally ill. They push religion,they try to bully clients into conversion and take away meds that some really do need. This is WRONG.They do not tell the clients their meds will be cut off when they are in the admission process. In my case assholes like the hope house staff would trigger me so bad,it would be a horror show,if they forced me to stop my meds,and go to their fanatic church. And it could get much worse the more they played control games and pushed religion....I know I'd be hospitalized in the first week.I was in Assemblies of God,and these people are dangerous and can't think clearly.They fucked up my mind! After I got out of that cult I was a mess,emotionally.

These christian run places are ruled by religion are dangerous and inhumane.I wish bush never let christian-freak assholes "help" the mentally ill.Those fundies need to get out of the 'helping' business,period.fuck them and their 'god'.

The whole thing is so WRONG.
Posted by undergroundpanther | Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:50 AM (11 replies)

mental health clinic closures...

Patients Occupy Mental Health Clinic To Prevent Closure

Last edited Thu Apr 12, 2012, 10:31 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by maddezmom (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).
Source: Care2

By Beth Buczynski

Members of Occupy Wall Street are reporting that dozens of people who use Chicago’s mental health clinics along with other advocates have barricaded themselves into the Woodlawn Clinic at 6337 S. Woodlawn, one of 6 clinics facing closure in the city.

The patients, family members, and mental health advocates say they intend to remain there until Mayor Rahm Emanuel agrees to keep all of Chicago’s public clinics open, fully funded and fully staffed.

According to the Chicago Tribune, some 5,100 patients receive services through the city’s network of mental health clinics. About 3,000 are uninsured or underinsured, and another 2,100 carry Medicaid, Medicare or private insurance. The plan to close the clinics was made toward the end of 2011, and will save taxpayers about $3 million, according to the Chicago Department of Public Health.

The City says it will refer the insured clients to nonprofit community mental health providers, but patients and their advocates have their doubts. Not to mention that thousands without insurance will be left to fend for themselves.

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/breaking-patients-occupy-mental-health-clinic-to-prevent-closure.html

#occupytogether #occupyeverywhere #OWS

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Thanks to Cory777 for the top part of this post.. I saw this and felt it needed a repost in GD

http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/as-mental-health-clinics-face-cuts-the-affected-speak-out/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/us/impact-of-chicago-mental-health-cuts-will-be-clear-soon-on-the-streets.html

http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/22/5/110.full


(my comments)
All the people that are affected by bad state policy and the closures and allies,staff,families friends etc...I admire those people fighting to keep the clinics open,to show up in masse and let the assholes know how we feel about THEIR decisions that harm OUR lives

If the clinic closures go nationwide maybe we should get together,walk into the chamber as "observers" Than ask some revealing questions of the political people cutting the clinics face to face,then I'd recommend they SHAME them all. And of course the media would be called and cell phones would record the truth and it would be all over the net.People with mental illness &psychiatric injuries SUFFER ENOUGH.
There was awhile ago an attack on mental health services ,they were closed overnight..nobody knew.
I know if they cut off my access to the clinic I attend, I would have nothing to lose,and I'd be ungodly pissed....Hell,I'm already pissed.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-12-28/health/ct-met-mental-health-closures-20111228_1_community-mental-health-board-public-health-activists-question


"Fight" by the cure.

Sometimes there's nothing to feel
Sometimes there's nothing to hold
Sometimes there's no time to run away
Sometimes you just feel so old
The times it hurts when you cry
The times it hurts just to breathe
And then it all seems like there's no-one left
And all you want is to sleep

Fight fight fight
Just push it away
Fight fight fight
Just push until it breaks
Fight fight fight
Don't cry at the pain
Fight fight fight
Or watch yourself burn again
Fight fight fight
Don't howl like a dog
Fight fight
Just fill up the sky
Fight fight fight
Fight til you drop
Fight fight fight
And never never
Never stop

Fight fight fight
Fight fight fight

So when the hurting starts
And when the nightmares begin
Remember you can fill up the sky
You don't have to give in
You don't have to give in

Never give in
Never give in
Never give in




Posted by undergroundpanther | Thu Apr 12, 2012, 11:44 PM (0 replies)

Do NOT attempt to think or depression may result.


Depression's Evolutionary Roots

Two scientists suggest that depression is not a malfunction, but a mental adaptation that brings certain cognitive advantage

There is another possibility: that, in most instances, depression should not be thought of as a disorder at all. In an article recently published in Psychological Review, we argue that depression is in fact an adaptation, a state of mind which brings real costs, but also brings real benefits.
*snip
There is another suggestive line of evidence. Various studies have found that people in depressed mood states are better at solving social dilemmas. Yet these would seem to have been precisely the kind of problems difficult enough to require analysis and important enough to drive the evolution of such a costly emotion. Consider a woman with young children who discovers her husband is having an affair. Is the wife’s best strategy to ignore it, or force him to choose between her and the other woman, and risk abandonment? Laboratory experiments indicate that depressed people are better at solving social dilemmas by better analysis of the costs and benefits of the different options that they might take.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions-evolutionary



So, Depressive ruminating may help solve Social Delimmas. I ruminate over delimmas that affect alot of people depressed or not.So it might be a very important social survival mechanism...Social Delimmas are plenty in our society like war,wall st.,bullies,pollution,inequality,corruption,abuse,sexism,racism,the oppressive corporate powers,our diminishing rights and privacy,why are so many people so narcissistic, sociopathic,manipulating or cruel,etc.etc.

Depression might actually help solve the intractable issues happy people don't want or like to think about?? That's a strange idea,but it also seems possible. Most my life has been spent depressed.I DO ruminate over things alot. I do think deeply,I see things very different than most can tolerate even hearing,except when I'm depressed and talking to other depressed people, it seems we focus on similar issues. I ask why are things the way they are a lot,doubt,question,research think...and sometimes what I find,sometimes other depressed people figure out pieces of solutions while ruminating too. So if Depression is useful for making social change,than,it has a reason to exist.

*snip
One reason to suspect that depression is an adaptation, not a malfunction, comes from research into a molecule in the brain known as the 5HT1A receptor
*snip
Rodents lacking this receptor show fewer depressive symptoms in response to stress, which suggests that it is somehow involved in promoting depression

(stress of being in a traumatic or painful situation,dealing with abusive people maybe)
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"or they(depressed people) have difficulty putting their complex internal struggles into words."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions-evolutionary


Yeah that's so true...So many times people don't grok what I'm trying to say,and get defensive over what I write,and get nasty or try to hijack the threads. But I keep trying to say it regardless of the defensive trolling,here on DU.Why? Because I need to convey what it is I am learning via ruminations to someone,anyone in hopes they understand it,and even better USE it to solve a social delimma. I know when I write here,it gets to more people than those who reply to my posts or try to derail it..This concept of depression, makes sense.

Alot of traumatized people suffer deep depression. A trauma is a personal delimma. Trauma's delimmas maybe shared by many people.Not just depressed ones.But depressed people can't let a painful delimma be denied because of the pain..Depressed people sometimes deal with very deep questions..like asking things like why does life have to suck,why me,why am I alive?

Legit philosophical questions I think.

Hmm This means the you make your own happiness new age crap floating around like the secret might be socially DE-evolutionary,and right wing reactivism.Which is not thinking or rumination over a social delimma.

Shut Up Be Happy by Ice T & Jello Biafra.

We interrupt this program with a special bulletin:
America is now under martial law.
All constitutional rights have been suspended.
Stay in your homes.
Do not attempt to contact loved ones, insurance agents or attorneys.
Shut up.
Do not attempt to think or depression may occur.
Stay in your homes.
Curfew is at 7 PM sharp after work.
Anyone caught outside the gates of their subdivision sectors after curfew
will be shot.
Remain calm, do not panic.
Your neighborhood watch officer will be by to collect urine samples in
the morning.
Anyone caught interfering with the collection of urine examples will be
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Stay in your homes, remain calm.
The number one enemy of progress is questions.
National security is more important than individual will.
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No more than two people may gather anywhere without permission.
Use only the drugs prescribed by your boss or supervisor.
Shut up, be happy.
Obey all orders without question.
The comfort you've demanded is now mandatory.
Be happy.
At last everything is done for you.

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Posted by undergroundpanther | Sun Apr 8, 2012, 04:59 PM (10 replies)
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