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Andy Lopez Shooting - He could spot a weapon in low light but not a toy in daylight

The more I read about this guy the more I see a severely unstable guy who was looking .....

Low Light Training – Part 2 ....... BY Erick Gelhaus

Normally, during low-light training, we are on the firing line with several co-workers. Every one turns on their lights, illuminating a two dimensional target at the same distance. This turns your low-light shoot into darn near daylight. Then they shoot.

.... Just like you don’t always see the whole animal when hunting, you may not always see the whole weapon – or even a lot of it – in low light. Look for the parts.





So let me get this straight - he can see weapons with X-ray Vision Clarity at Night but he can't tell a TOY in Broad Daylight

Ya - right

Notice the "Perp Mannequin" with the "Hoodie" on

Driver says Sonoma deputy pulled gun on him

Source: Henry K. Lee / San Francisco Chronicle

The Sonoma County sheriff's deputy who shot and killed a 13-year-old boy after mistaking his toy AK-47 for a real rifle pulled a gun on a motorist twice during a traffic stop on Highway 101 two months earlier, the driver said Thursday.

Jeff Westbrook of Santa Rosa said he was mistreated by Deputy Erick Gelhaus after being pulled over Aug. 21 in Cotati for failing to signal a lane change in his BMW. The interaction troubled Westbrook so much that he recalled asking Gelhaus at one point, "Sir, is there something wrong with you?"

"I felt like I was watching somebody I needed to help," said Westbrook, 57, a program manager at an information technology company. "This was not right. He did not manage this correctly."

Gelhaus is on routine paid leave after the Oct. 22 shooting of eighth-grader Andy Lopez Cruz, who was walking with a replica AK-47 pellet gun near his home just outside Santa Rosa. His attorney declined Thursday to comment on Westbrook's allegations.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Driver-says-Sonoma-deputy-pulled-gun-on-him-4944495.php



This guy wasn't playing with a Full Deck was he

More Than 1,000 Attend Andy Lopez Protest Rally in Santa Rosa

Source: KQED News Staff and Wires



The Associated Press is reporting that more than 1,000 people marched at the rally this afternoon in Santa Rosa to protest the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Andy Lopez.

The protesters, including middle- and high-school-age students and members of the Occupy movement, assembled in downtown Santa Rosa before marching through streets with signs and hooded sweatshirts bearing photos of the boy.

"Andy Lopez did not have to die," they chanted during the nearly three-hour, mostly peaceful demonstration. No arrests were made.


Read more: http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/10/29/andy-lopez/



And here is something that took me completely by surprise buried in the article


"In the state of California we have a lot of laws that cover the protection of privacy of police officers and as a result of that, a lot of these complaints about police conduct, full reports are rarely made public," Gullixon said. "The question is ultimately what will come of that and how much will people know of what actually transpired."



So by that statement I guess the BEST way to protect a fellow officer in case like this is NOT to investigate. Because once an officer has Witness statements or Forensics Trajectory Reports he is bound by law to submit that as evidence. But if the question never is asked, the statement is never taken, or the Forensics work never performed it may be bad police work but its "No Harm / No Foul" - its not illegal. And no one will ever know

WOW

More Than 1,000 Attend Andy Lopez Protest Rally in Santa Rosa

More Than 1,000 Attend Andy Lopez Protest Rally in Santa Rosa

The Associated Press is reporting that more than 1,000 people marched at the rally this afternoon in Santa Rosa to protest the fatal shooting of 13-year-old Andy Lopez.

The protesters, including middle- and high-school-age students and members of the Occupy movement, assembled in downtown Santa Rosa before marching through streets with signs and hooded sweatshirts bearing photos of the boy.

"Andy Lopez did not have to die," they chanted during the nearly three-hour, mostly peaceful demonstration. No arrests were made.

http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/10/29/andy-lopez/


And here is something that took me completely by surprise buried in the article

"In the state of California we have a lot of laws that cover the protection of privacy of police officers and as a result of that, a lot of these complaints about police conduct, full reports are rarely made public," Gullixon said. "The question is ultimately what will come of that and how much will people know of what actually transpired."


So by that statement I guess the BEST way to protect a fellow officer in case like this is NOT to investigate. Because once an officer has Witness statements or Forensics Trajectory Reports he is bound by law to submit that as evidence. But if the question never is asked, the statement is never taken, or the Forensics work never performed it may be bad police work but its "No Harm / No Foul" - its not illegal. And no one will ever know

WOW

Could you immagine if a 2nd Amendment Type had been shot

The conversation we would be having instead of a 13yr old Hispanic boy

1 answer - Its a plot by Obama

2 - his hand wasn't even on the pistol grip

3 - he never even had a chance to turn around as reported by Eye Witnesses

4 - 7 shots ... Wtf


Let's admitt it apologist - its the color of his skin that has formed 99% of the opinion

Excellent article about Andy Lopez shooting

Really puts it in perspective

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/28/1251299/-Now-We-Know-Who-Killed-Andy-Lopez-And-What-His-Mindset-Was

Witnesses recount deputy fatally shooting Santa Rosa teen

Source: KGO-TV

SANTA ROSA, Calif. (KGO) -- We're learning more in the ongoing investigation of a Sonoma County sheriff's deputy who shot and killed a 13-year old who was carrying a replica assault rifle.

The collection of candles and balloons honoring Andy Lopez continues to grow and people continue to show up to pay their respects. Maria Marquez and Juana Rojas have attended the memorial every day since the shooting because they want to tell the boy's parents what they saw when he was killed.

"Y nosotros nos venimos detras de la patrulla hasta aqui, el estop," Rojas said

She says they were right behind the patrol car at a stop sign. Rojas saw the deputies turn on their police lights, then drive over to where the teenager was standing in an open lot.



Read more: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/north_bay&id=9302840



Sure sounds like the cops executed the 13 year old boy

Annonymous message to Sherrif / Shooter of 13yr old Andy Lopez

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Annonymous is joining in the Investigation of 13yr old Andy Lopez Shooting

Just saw this on the Justice for Andy Lopez Facebook page

HEY EVERYONE WE WILL BE BLOCKING COMMENTS AND TAGING US IN PICTURES ALSO YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO POST ON THE TIMELINE OF THIS PAGE.

THE REASON WE ARE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE WE GOT A MESSAGE WARNING US THAT THE GROUP (ANONYMOUS) WILL TRY TO HACK THIS PAGE AND POST PICTURES THAT ARE TOO GRAPHIC OF THE CRIME SEAN OF ANDY LOPEZ.

WE WILL BE ON HIGH ALERT FOR NOW.

WERE SORRY FOR DOING THIS BUT ITS FOR THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS WE DONT WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THESE IMAGES


Being that some one wiped the video of the shooting off the internet and so many questions are left unanswered by the Sonoma county Sheriffs Dept. this is going to get very interesting.

A death that drives us to our knees

A death that drives us to our knees

But as with so many people who have been participating in vigils and marches in Santa Rosa since Tuesday, I'm also having a hard time understanding why the deputy felt so threatened that he had to pull the trigger — eight times.

After all, it was not as if they had evidence that this suspicious person with his back to them presented a clear and present danger. He was not walking toward a crowd of people. The

deputies were not responding to a report of a dangerous person firing an assault weapon in the area.

Residents of that area in fact are used to seeing young men with airsoft rifles roaming the open fields. Andy was killed beside a large undeveloped lot where, in the spring, the grass grows so tall that it's a fun place for children to run and hide — and play with BB guns. Were the

officers not familiar with that?

http://www.petaluma360.com/article/20131027/OPINION/131029669/-1/PT07?p=1&tc=pg




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