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This "Russian shelling" story is bullshit on its own terms.

I don't need to question the source or authenticity of the image itself, or use past examples of deception as though these necessitate deception in this case. (Although certainly, with the exception of the reason for entering World War II, there has never been any matter of war and peace, under Democrats or Republicans, on which the U.S. government has not lied systematically to the American people.)

Here's all I need to do:

They're the DNI! Why are they presenting images obtained from a civilian source?!

What's with the interpretative past tense? We are told the images show that there had been fire, due to "ground scarring" on the Russian side. All that ground scarring proves is that the Russians have a lot of heavy military gear that they move around, including near the Ukrainian border during a confrontation with the West over the Ukraine. In their routine maneuvers and excercises, one would expect them to track units on the Ukrainian side and target these, but not to shoot. (Something that all forces would do!)

And what do impacts on the Ukrainian side show, without proof of where the fire comes from? That there's a war happening there? Really?

If the Russians really are shelling into Ukraine from over the border, DNI/NRO could easily train military satellites on these areas 24/7 and get definitive proof of the firing. That DNI presents such weak and circumstantial evidence speaks volumes.

This is not serious. It is also not pitched at an international audience (sort of like the U.S. weekly version of the old Soviet encyclopedia, TIME). People outside the U.S. and outside the reflexively pro-Kiev bubble are not going to take it seriously. It is 100% for true believers and suckers among the American people, to shore up support for the new cold war with Russia.

This is also why it's being presented by the PR front for all intel agencies, the DNI, rather than a real agency like CIA/State Department. If it were Kerry talking this, it would be a very bad sign about what's coming next. DNI, whatevs.

There's a reason you have to "imagine" that.

Since it has no relation whatsoever to the actual situation in the Middle East, where the facts are completely unrelated to your fantasy.

In this case, the "wealthy suburb" has put a locked gate up around your "Detroit," has cut off the people there from the flow of goods, and bombs them on a regular basis. When a crime is committed in a third district, the wealthy commence a collective punishment with an enormous, merciless bombing of "Detroit." When some homemade rockets come out of "Detroit" in response, they pretend retroactively that was the reason for their massacre in the first place. In all things, the wealthy suburbanites blame the victims for an aggression they initiated.

Civil Rights; social justice; civil liberties; investment in human potential

All of these issues are closely related to the drug war and in particular marijuana prohibition as main drivers of the prison-industrial complex and the New Jim Crow. An interest in these values demands that one support legalization. What is social justice, what are rights and liberties, what room is left for human potential when a teenager in a black neighborhood can be subjected to an illegal search, be found with an ounce of marijuana, and end up as a forced laborer in the prison system for a dozen years on charges of conspiracy?

The drug war furthermore funds an epic distortion of all politics comparable to the effect of money in politics generally. Not just in the United States but all over Latin America. There are narco-states and death squads because pot is illegal in the U.S., fer chrissakes. It is the central factor in money laundering all around the world. All of the big banks take part in this business.

Do you support the IDF action in Gaza?

Should the U.S. government end support to Israel?

Totally justified.

It's a geopolitics.

It's mistaken about its presumed benefits to the U.S. or its ruling class, although it does make profits for some and it has a purpose: to prevent the emergence of rivals on the regional or global level. Also, to justify this war machine, since there are nothing but chaos and supposed threats out there. Also, looking ahead 20 years to some supposed redrawn, rebuilt Middle East.

Here's a sample:

Steven Cohen said something I don't like...

He reminds me somehow of Chomsky.

Therefore, Chomsky!!! Putin, Chomsky, Putin!!! It's the Left!!!

Very logical.

Unbelievable! From the same U.S. government that...

refuses to meet Venezuela's request for the extradition of the terrorist , Luis Posada Cariles. The CIA agent Cariles masterminded the bombing of a civilian flight, killing 73 people, and then escaped from Venezuelan custody during his trial, only to reappear in the U.S. as a player in the Iran-Contra machinations.

The U.S. refuses to extradite him for trial. But they're plenty willing to make up "drug kingpin" charges against Chavez's circle, and make use of international enforcement on that score.

Screw the CIA terrorism and screw the war on drugs!



Cuban-born terrorist Luis Posada Carriles (1928 - ) began his use of torture and violence as a member of Cuba’s security forces during the dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista (1952-1958). After Fidel Castro’s revolutionary army overthrew Batista on January 1, 1959, Carriles and others fled to the United States where they received direct support to try to prevent the revolutionary government from consolidating political, social, and economic reforms on the island.

From 1967 to 1974 Posada Carriles served as Chief of Operations at the Directorate of Intelligence and Prevention Services (DISIP), a shady security agency feared for its use of violent tactics in supposed “anti-communist” operations against progressive and leftist Venezuelans inspired by the Cuban Revolution.

In 1976, frustrated by Cuba’s increasingly successful social transformations, Posada Carriles and admitted terrorist Orlando Bosch (1926-2011) orchestrated the bombing of Cubana de Aviacion Flight 455. On October 6, the plane was blown up in midair, killing all 73 people on board.

A week later, Posada Carriles, Orlando Bosch, and two others were detained for their involvement in the bombing. In 1983, after eight years in prison, Carriles escaped and fled the country soon after.




Two Venezuelan nationals, Hernán Ricardo and Freddy Lugo, had left the bombs on the plane, before disembarking in Barbados. Lugo later told police officials that Ricardo boasted that the 73 people he killed on the plane were “more than the Jackal,” alluding to the famous terrorist Carlos the Jackal. “Now I’m the one who has the record, because I’m the one who blew up that thing,” he told Lugo.

Ricardo confessed to Barbadian and Trinidad officials who were investigating the crime that he and Lugo bombed the plane and that they worked for the CIA and Luis Posada Carriles. He even drew a diagram for them of the detonator he used to ignite the C-4 explosives he placed in the aircraft. He admitted to receiving $25,000 for downing the plane.

Lugo and Ricardo were extradited to Venezuela by Trinidad and Tobago. There they were convicted for their role in downing the plane and sentenced to 20 years. After serving their time, they were released. Lugo still lives in Caracas, driving a taxi to earn his living. The Miami Herald reported that Ricardo is now an undercover operative in Florida for the Drug Enforcement Administration.


In 1985 Luis Posada Carriles was indicted and prosecuted as the mastermind of the murder of the 73 persons aboard that plane. But before the Venezuelan court could pronounce a verdict, he escaped from prison. Within a few weeks, he landed a job with the CIA in an operation that later became known as the Iran-Contra scandal. The United States has never bothered to explain how it was possible for an international fugitive charged with 73 counts of first-degree murder to so quickly land a $120,000-a-year job with the CIA, arming Nicaraguan Contras.


Why do you ask questions with a false premise?

There are reports of a synagogue attacked in Sarcelle, and I certainly have acknowledged this. That kind of action needs to be counteracted, it is not acceptable.

On "the other thread," there were reports of a synagogue attacked in central Paris, which the leader thereof refuted promptly in a TV interview as entirely untrue, even as he implicitly blamed the "rather sulfurous" JDL, a radical Jewish supremacist hate group.

On DU we see exaggerations of such incidents (in this case ignoring thousands of protesters and focusing on a handful), and also many blanket defamations of Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, or the supporters of the Palestinian cause, or all those who oppose the ongoing Israeli war crimes and massacres of civilians of occupied Gaza. There are attempts to characterize these groups as motivated solely by "anti-Semitism" or of just being plain "animals." That needs to be counteracted, too.
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