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AP did not report news, AP chose to make news.

AP decided to hold an anonymous poll of supers. AP decided to count them as if they were equivalent to elected and pledged. They decided to report this as a "clinch" that doesn't exist until the convention.

The timing and results of a poll initiated by a news organization are not the same as a "news story" in the sense of an independent development on which the organization reports. These results are an activity of the organization itself. They would not exist at all without the organization deciding to make them exist.

They timed their poll - which, again, is an anonymous survey of unnamed persons who are not in any sense obligated to live by it - for release on the Monday before the last big round of elections.

Anyone would understand in advance that this fucks over the voters and probably screws around with the results.

AP didn't care, they wanted to steal the attention that belongs to the voters in California and five other states.

I can see from this board that for once there are no clear Clinton vs. Sanders lines on the question. Many are disgusted by unscrupulous and irresponsible behavior that would not be possible without a healthy contempt for democracy.

This is the construction of news, not "reporting." These are the actions of media whores without scruples or decency -- people who would trip their grandma down the stairs if it would get them a career boost. Fuck them.

Media whores create stunt story timed for attention.

A poll of anonymous superdelegates is not the same as the count of elected, pledged delegates, and they timed this to steal the attention from the actual elections, to play as if they scooped something. Fuck the voters, right AP?

Yes. As for Mein Kampf...

It may as well have been cribbed from a series of 1922-24 editorials published under Henry Ford's name in his newspaper, The Dearborn Independent, and then put out worldwide in two dozen languages at his expense in a volume titled The International Jew. This is cited as an inspiration to Hitler, who hardly needed it but was known for looking up to Ford, who later got a medal from the Nazi regime, their highest honor to foreigners (bestowed by the German consul in Detroit, 1938). The Nazis put Ford's book out in 43 editions by 1942 or so. Both authors were probably cribbing from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, itself a Czarist condensation of centuries of European anti-Semitic beliefs.

But that's not all, it would overemphasize the atavistic side. For highly modern Germany, meanwhile, was a hotbed for both, Taylorism-Fordism as an ideology of getting labor to work properly, and for the "scientific racism" and eugenics that predominated in the Anglo-American elite opinion of the early 20th C. And large parts of Europe broke out into fascisms long before the Nazis came to power. To pretend that what followed with Germany after 1932/33 was all because of Hitler and his coterie, or that no one else can ever be a Hitler (when it's sadly a common personality type whether we call it a syndrome or not) is ahistorical and again, misses the point: Fascisms involve whole societies going insane, in a very "rationalist" way. Thanks for reading.

Hitler's more normal than you think.

I figure about 1 in 50 men fit the bill, and many of them are petty tyrants tormenting their employees.

Luckily not usually in charge of a nation on the brink of insanity. Remember, it was Germany (and its European collaborators) that carried out the war and the genocides, Germany that provided a fertile field without which Hitler would never take power. Nor would we be talking the absurdity that Hitler was some kind of super-genius. He was a sick motherfucker who knew how to play the rubes, like a lot of sick motherfuckers. Like Trump, even.

When you make Hitler into an alien of sorts, you miss the historical point. It's societies that go wrong, not evil men who magically take them over.

Your junior internet gestapo posts are noted.

It's almost as if you intend to present the same false caricature of Clinton supporters that the odious Adams does in his column. Vee komm for YOU in 10 days, vait and see - ha ha ha!

Are you sure you think that what you're doing actually supports the cause you say you are for?

Wait. The GE isn't a closed primary under control of a single party?!

They might just let anyone vote, even Republicans and the simply unaffiliated unwashed masses who have never volunteered in or worked for Democratic campaigns?!

Why didn't anyone tell that to the Clinton supporters?!

God, this game is soooo rigged against her!

"Trolls are the dog-piles in the lawn of life." - Bill USA.

(btw, in context, obviously, you mean dogshit. Dogpiles are fun, and quite the opposite.)

So in other words, this GOP campaign will exactly mirror the logic of the Hillary camp being employed here, of "When did you stop being a Republican?" Except that Sanders never was one of those. He was also never a communist, but he lets you call him a socialist even though he barely qualifies as that. It sure has damaged him so far!

If only he'd been a neoliberal willing to claim any position for votes, armed with 400 politician endorsements ("superdelegates"), a hundred million in corporate donor PAC-dollars, 100% name recognition, the party machines all working for him, and the corporate media treating him 24/7 like he's the single, pre-ordained candidate. All of which was true of Clinton a year ago when Sanders was but an insurgent blip.

Why did he fuck up like that? Play the game and win it the professional way, man! First serve your masters for a few decades, then pretend this is a democracy!

Tuition-free public universities? That might cost 10% of our Beautiful Pentagon! Outrageous!

Nuff said. Kick this. Throw your talking points at it!

Yeah, looks like a real barrelful of fun.

Ah, the Bubble Existence! Soon you'll be here alone, in a cavernous echo chamber protected from the uglier 99% of the Internet, not to mention reality itself.

No, Frank passed a law to prevent the break-up of the banks.

He worked for that exactly at the time when we had the best chance to break them up.

Of course, that wouldn't pass as such, so the deed of saving Wall Street from the pitchforks is packaged as a "reform." Thus it happens that the Dodd-Frank bill to Save the Banksters included a provision that could be used to break up the big banks. Of course, such a thing could only happen in the unthinkable case that a real political leadership comes to power and is willing to do that.

A real political leadership would be something rather opposite to the present-day Wall Street employee ("consultant") Barnie Frank, whose "opinions" (mouthpiece statements) about Sanders should come with a prominent conflict-of-interest label.


PS - Oh and spare me the inevitable "but Sanders voted for it" dodge. I would have fought against it and fought to strengthen it all the way, as Sanders did, and when it was too late, sure, I would have voted for it as the best that that could be done. And then continued the fight - exactly as Sanders has! You think Sanders is going to get a "consultancy" pay off from Wall Street at the end of this? Shame on Frank!
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