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Ruh-roh! HRC's internal polling not lookin' good for her chances?

She will hang on to the bitter end, to keep adding $$$ to her campaign fund - which she gets to keep if she drops out of the race - subject to some spending restrictions (which are variably enforced) but still quite useful.

From HRC's hard-working, UNPAID interns per chance?

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton today rolled out a series of programs designed to reduce the youth unemployment rate, but Clinton, herself, is building out a portion of her campaign with unpaid labor.

Clinton’s campaign is establishing a network of grassroots trainees, called “Organizing Fellows,” who are being signed on full-time to work for free. Some, even those who are young professionals with experience in politics, are reportedly being told they need to work without pay for at least the summer months.


CLASSIC HILLARY - WORDS NOT DEEDS - "ooh, ooh, it's so baaaad not to pay student interns, except when they're interning for MY family "charity" or MY campaign!" And CLASSIC Clinton Foundation allocation of those millions in donations - private jets & 5 star presidential suite accomodations at glittering, celebrity filled "meetings", but squat all for new graduates with student loans - although the received wisdom is that only young people of independent means and without student loan debt can afford to "volunteer" for HRC OR the Clinton Foundation.

Hillary Doesn't Like Unpaid Internships, but Clinton Foundation Sure Does
The charity spent $30 million on salaries last year but not one cent on interns, unlike the Ford or Gates Foundations. What gives?

Hillary Clinton may be running for president as a champion for the middle class, but the Clinton Foundation’s interns do not get paid. “Businesses have taken advantage of unpaid internships to an extent that it is blocking the opportunities for young people to move on into paid employment,” Clinton said at UCLA in 2013. “More businesses need to move their so-called interns to employees.”

That doesn’t happen at her own business, the Clinton Foundation that Bill started in 2001.
The foundation goes through about 100 interns each summer, with slightly less during the school year. Summer interns volunteer 30 to 40 hours a week, while interns who work during a college semester may work 25 hours. The most some interns receive is a $2,000 stipend for a four-month period, and that depends on financial need.

Paying them all New York’s minimum wage of $8.75, for instance, would cost a fraction of the foundation’s budget, which spent $29.9 million (PDF) on employee salaries, compensation, and benefits for about 2,000 employees worldwide in 2013.

“There is no section of the Labor Law that exempts ‘interns’ at not-for-profit organizations from the minimum wage requirements,” a New York Department of Labor handout clarifies (PDF). Unlike for-profit corporations, nonprofits in New York are allowed to employ unpaid volunteers. Unpaid volunteers can’t be required to work certain hours though (Foundation interns are), and they cannot be compensated in any way except for reimbursement for expenses (some Foundation interns get stipends).



The chock-a-block crowded field of extreme & bizarre candidates on the GOP side will self-destruct in their primary.

Whomever is the Democratic candidate will win, going away.

But, but, but . . . the Supreme Court appointments! ! !

How incredibly gullible, naive, blind to political realities and/or lacking in worldly experience can someone be who does not recognize that corporate/Wall Street donations/quid pro quos will come home to roost with a profiteering vengeance on any presidential candidate who has accepted tens of millions of dollars from them in a combination of campaign donations, personal payments for speeches to said candidate and spouse, and "gifts" to said candidate's family non-profit organization. Nowhere is this more vital to said corporate interests than in appointments to the Supreme Court.

Here's the script, kiddos!

Corporate input on Supreme Court appointments:

"Here's the deal. Your supreme court nominations can be soft on social issues. We don't give a fuck if gays marry or women can get abortions. Makes no difference to our profiteering. But by god they better leave Citizens United in place and not approve prosecution of war crimes."

Like denying a candidate has been bought out by banks/Wall Street

Or denying that said corporate interests, having paid out tens of millions to a candidate, won't expect input on supreme court appointments: "Here's the deal. Your supreme court nominations can be soft on social issues. We don't give a fuck if gays marry or women can get abortions. Makes no difference to our profiteering. But by god they better leave Citizens United in place and not approve prosecution of war crimes."

VEEP creator & intense pressure on HRC to say . . . .nothing

The guest columnist, Armando Iannucci, is the creator and executive producer of HBO's Veep. In this column, he writes for The Hollywood Reporter about a climate where Obama deliberately stayed neutral in the Senate before running for president; Marco Rubio, with little track record, attacks the legacy of others; and where an unknowable Clinton is a byproduct of a broken campaign culture. HBO's Veep is the story of the ambitious vice-president & presidential wannabe, Selina Myer - "Boldly Running For President; Proudly Standing for Everything!"

HBO has just announced that Julia Louis Dreyfus and her posse will return for Season 5 of VEEP in 2016. The show has consistently raked in awards, including 3 back to back prime time Best Actress Emmys for Dreyfuss' portrayal of Selina Myer (2012, 2013 & 2014). http://hbowatch.com/veep-returns-for-season-5-but-with-new-showrunner/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1759761/awards

It's possibly no coincidence that Hillary Clinton started her presidential run the same week that astronomical scientists at the University of Hawaii in Manoa announced the discovery of a Supervoid, a structure in space 18 billion light-years across and "distinguished by its unusual emptiness." The Supervoid sits in a part of the cosmos known as the Cold Spot, where there's far less matter to observe than elsewhere throughout the universe.

It's a perfect analogy for how Hillary Clinton's opponents seek to characterize her: as someone who is profoundly visible yet hard to identify. She is politics' Dark Matter: We know she's there, but we just can't describe her. Is she on the left or the right, is she a friend of the rich or the poor, is she a testosterone-fueled superhawk or a grandmatronly van-driver popping into Chipotle for a chat with the staff?

Yet Hillary's identity problem is prominent only because she has been on the public stage for so long. It's a magnified version of a debilitating crisis of identity that sits at the heart of national American politics, the real Supervoid that constricts and confines most presidential candidates: and that is, the intense pressure to say nothing. Knowing that your every speech and interview sits in the digital archive, ready to be analyzed by an army of opponents with time to spare and money to spend, can kill spontaneity dead. Far better to sit contentious debates out. If you hold public office, be careful how you vote on any piece of legislation, no matter how obscure. Your voting record will be used by your opponents just as savagely as if it were a criminal one.

This is the ultimate Supervoid now at the heart of politics. It's the reason why for most presiden­tial candidates today, the only significant thing they can say about themselves is that they are running for president.


Louis-Dreyfus supported Al Gore's 2000 U.S. presidential bid, and also endorsed Barack Obama's bid for the presidency in 2008 and 2012. She appeared in a video which urged President Obama to reject the proposal of the Keystone XL pipeline, arguing that if the pipeline ever were to leak, it would cause mass pollution across the U.S. Additionally, she has voiced her concern for several environmental issues, and has raised millions for Heal the Bay, the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Trust for Public Land. She also worked for successful passage of Proposition O, which allocated US$500 million for cleaning up the Los Angeles water supply.


Was that this "10K attendance rally?" where she was booed and jeered

Now I thought that her largest turnout was her Roosevelt Island gathering which her own campaign estimated as having a 5,500 attendance. How could I have missed what you describe as "her 10K attendance rally?" So I googled Hillary Clinton and 10,000 and rally and this is what I came up with:
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/hillary-takes-hits-10-000-rally-israel-article-1.887732 So what and where was this rally you referred to, if not this one?

BY William Goldschlag
Friday, October 13, 2000, 12:00 AM

Shouting over jeers from many of the 10,000 at a pro-Israel rally, Hillary Rodham Clinton urged support yesterday for her husband's efforts "to end the violence" as well as for the embattled Jewish state. But her Senate opponent, Rep. Rick Lazio, ripped the Clinton administration for not placing the blame for the current conflict solely on Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. Blasting the U. S. decision to abstain and not veto a UN Security Council resolution that slammed Israel, Lazio asked, "Is this any way to treat a friend?

" "There must be no equivocation," said Lazio, who won cheers and shook hands in the crowd jamming Second Ave. from 42nd to 48th Sts. Mayor Giuliani also bashed the Clinton administration for being too soft on Arafat and the Palestinians. Other speakers at the demonstration included Gov. Pataki, Nobel laureate and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel and Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert. The Mideast turmoil has created an October surprise in the Senate race. It is an opportunity for Lazio and a danger for the First Lady in the battle for Jewish votes, because she and President Clinton long treated Arafat as a credible partner for peace. Clinton's poll numbers among Jews are at an all-time high. But she got there only after arduous fence-mending following her infamous kiss of Arafat's wife in Ramallah last year. The hard-liners who booed her yesterday likely would oppose her no matter what, though. "A zebra doesn't change her stripes, and I don't trust her," said Tobie Newman, 75, of Freeport, L.

I. But with each escalation of the violence, her campaign grows more anxious that her support among a broader spectrum of Jews could be shaken. "She needs to be extremely supportive of Israel," said Dr. Peggy Wurm, 43, of Manhattan, a Clinton supporter at the rally. "The old baggage from the past is there. It's hard for people to get it out of their minds," said Assemblyman Dov Hikind (D-Brooklyn) from Israel, where he was caught up in a battle at a funeral procession for a slain rabbi Wednesday. Hikind, a political conservative, said the turmoil he witnessed will influence his decision on whom to support. The First Lady broke with her husband Sunday over the UN abstention and has refused to join administration critics of some Israeli actions. Since White House-sponsored peace talks broke down in July, her criticism of Arafat has grown harsher. Yet when she called yesterday on Arafat to end the violence and denounced the "shameful" and "one-sided" UN resolution, some in the crowd chanted, "Tell your husband.
" Another person yelled, "Go kiss Arafat's wife.

Get back to me when Clinton Found. refuses $$$ from human rights abuser nations

Of course, "human rights" encompasses women's rights as well. Oh, and also let us know when the Clinton Foundation returns those tens of millions of dollars from countries which treat women like less than second class citizens.

In one instance, foundation officials acknowledged they should have sought approval in 2010 from the State Department ethics office, as required by the agreement for new government donors, before accepting a $500,000 donation from the Algerian government.

The money was given to assist with earthquake relief in Haiti, the foundation said. At the time, Algeria, which has sought a closer relationship with Washington, was spending heavily to lobby the State Department on human rights issues.


Chelsea Clinton Dodges Questions About NYTimes Report, Foundation Donors With Terrible Women's Rights Records
9:01 AM, Apr 23, 2015 • By DANIEL HALPER

Chelsea Clinton was asked about the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation taking money from countries with terrible women's rights records. Clinton was also asked about the New York Times report today on shady payments to her family. She dodged the questions.


A promotional video for the foundation. "This is what we do. This is who we are. This is the Clinton Foundation."

But another passage in the video oddly foreshadows a current controversy.

"We are entrepreneurs in human potential," the video says. "We reject artificial boundaries between business, government and nonprofits."

The Clinton Foundation eased those boundaries and has taken contributions, of $1 million to $10 million, from the governments of Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. The Saudi Arabian government has given as much as $25 million.

I've got a 1 woman registration drive going for Bernie/Dems

There are far too many Americans who are not registered and do not vote, but can be motivated to do so by a rare, honest, candidate like Bernie Sanders. I've registered 10 senior citizens who moved to new addresses and needed to do so. (9 registered as Dems; 1 as an independent). First I picked up a few voter registration forms at my public library; then I contacted my county's board of election and requested 40 more.

I've lived in my area (southwestern PA) for some 45 years and have heard a totally unprecedented and very positive buzz about Bernie Sanders among people who normally display no interest in politics. I strongly suspect many of them are among the 60% of people in my state who are either not registered at all or never bother to vote. Some of them may even think they are registered and not realize that if they moved to a new address or haven't voted in a specific number of years, that they are no longer registered. So I'm planning to be pro-active in talking up Bernie's candidacy while distributing voter registration forms - also offering to help fill them out - including explaining that in my state, one can't vote for Bernie in the primary unless one is registered as a Dem.

For example, the young (around 30) man who cleans out my gutters 2x a year and generally makes a living doing handyman stuff, is a pretty bright, good hearted guy, but with only a high school education. When he comes by later this week, I'm going to tell him what a great man Bernie is and why I'm supporting him for President. Then I'm going to give him a voter registration form and ask him to register now, so that after he learns more about Bernie and if he is motivated to vote for Bernie in the 2016 primary, he'll be able to do so. Then I'm going to give him more blank registration forms and ask him to talk to his family and friends about registering to vote.

I have found people really appreciate being specifically asked for their vote. Don't be shy - get out there and PROSELYTIZE!

Also, be sure and explain your state voting regs for college students away from home.

Seniors favor GOP when HRC is Dem nominee

This is particularly significant since senior voters turn out in disproportionately HIGH numbers at the polls, compared to younger age demographic groups. I'm wondering why older voters reject HRC - is it perhaps because they lived through so much of the disappointment and ugliness of all the Clinton scandals? All of that negative baggage which will be thoroughly rehashed during the campaign?
States with the Best Older Voter Turnout
By Emily Brandon
March 19, 2012 | 8:43 a.m. EDT
Senior citizens are much more likely than younger people to show up on election day to cast ballots. Nationwide, 61 percent of people age 65 and older voted in the 2010 election, compared to 46 percent of all citizens


Bring the Vote Home Poll: Seniors Favor GOP When Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Nominee
Morning Consult Polling | June 10, 2015

Morning Consult conducted a national survey on behalf of Bring the Vote Home of 3,904 registered voters 65 years old and over on April 27- May 5, 2015 and June 5-8, 2015. Results from the full survey have a margin of error of ±2%

Key Takeaways:
Seniors Favor GOP when Hillary Clinton is Democratic Nominee

When placed head to head, seniors chose Scott Walker (45%) over Hillary Clinton (36%), and Jeb Bush (44%) over Hillary Clinton (41%) for President.

Key Data:
A plurality of seniors (44%) would vote for a Republican candidate if the 2016 election in their Congressional district were held today, while 35 percent would vote for the Democratic candidate
More than one-third of female seniors (36%) and exactly one in four male seniors chose ISIS as the most important issue facing the country

(Ironically, I came across this pollster as the link in the OP of one of HRC's supporters! So they can't be heard to trash the source! http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141118279)
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